The Xbox One Thread - One X & One SXBOne
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Pretty much as has been suggested before. An AMD 1.6GHz, octo-core CPU with an ATi 7850 GPU with 32Mb GRAM cache, 8Gb DDR3 RAM, USB 3.0 (probably USB 2 as well), wi-fi and gigabit wired networking. Everything else is just showing how the systems link together in the console.
Interestingly, digital S/PDIF output for direct connection to surround sound amps.
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http://kotaku.com/5982986/we-know-all-about-the-next-xbox-from-someone-who-says-theyve-got-one
Remember the man who tried to sell a 720 dev kit on ebay? Well, he contacted Kohaku with information that was gleaned from the kit(read: Take any of the following with the usual grain of salt).
Kinect
Kinect will be included with every Durango sold. If you are trying to weasel out of installing it on the machine, don't bother. Kinect will be MANDATORY to even get the console operational. Furthermore, Kinect 2.0 will be able to detect up to 6 active players simultaneously and those six players will be connected with their own profile.
This new system could have monetary implications as well as each user could be monitored and charged based on who is watching what.
Storage and Installs
Last gen saw the user base of the 360 split because there was units sold without HDD and units that were.
This gen the days of the split SKUs are over as MS is going to offer one SKU with a 500GB HDD. Microsoft claims that this would provide all of the storage that you would need.
Speaking of storage, games must first be installed on said HDD upon first insertion. This will cause games to load quicker, however, unlike this last generation, where you had to install first, Durango will install the game in "sections", meaning that you could be playing one part of the game where as the console could be installing the rest of the game in the background.
Game installs is MANDATORY, seeing as they can't access the data off the disk.
SPECS
Remember the man who tried to sell a 720 dev kit on ebay? Well, he contacted Kohaku with information that was gleaned from the kit(read: Take any of the following with the usual grain of salt).
Kinect
Kinect will be included with every Durango sold. If you are trying to weasel out of installing it on the machine, don't bother. Kinect will be MANDATORY to even get the console operational. Furthermore, Kinect 2.0 will be able to detect up to 6 active players simultaneously and those six players will be connected with their own profile.
This new system could have monetary implications as well as each user could be monitored and charged based on who is watching what.
Storage and Installs
Last gen saw the user base of the 360 split because there was units sold without HDD and units that were.
This gen the days of the split SKUs are over as MS is going to offer one SKU with a 500GB HDD. Microsoft claims that this would provide all of the storage that you would need.
Speaking of storage, games must first be installed on said HDD upon first insertion. This will cause games to load quicker, however, unlike this last generation, where you had to install first, Durango will install the game in "sections", meaning that you could be playing one part of the game where as the console could be installing the rest of the game in the background.
Game installs is MANDATORY, seeing as they can't access the data off the disk.
SPECS
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I cannot see the point in installing to HDD. If you are running even a standard def BRD, surely 50Gb would be more than enough for a game, even MGS with it's endless cut scenes. But it's rumoured that the console will run on high capacity BRDs, so 100Gb is definitely more than enough. Then best thing that could be done is to increase the sustained data transfer rate on the BR driver, to the make the games faster at loading.
One other thing regarding this; 10 games, and the disc is full. Who the hell is going to do that? Is there some kind of issue of taking data off a BRD? If so, how do BRD players work without a HDD?
One other thing regarding this; 10 games, and the disc is full. Who the hell is going to do that? Is there some kind of issue of taking data off a BRD? If so, how do BRD players work without a HDD?
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How does Microsoft not supporting Blu Ray, a disc format that debuted a year after the 360 came out, and was in such massive shortages that the drive in the PS3 was one of the most expansive parts, lead to an expensive conspiracy that Microsoft and Toshiba were trying to kill all HD disc formats?
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Sounds like the specs of the Durango and PS4 are relatively the same. This is good, though 'cause it means cross console games shouldn't lose any graphical detail, unless, of course, the developer sucks. So, expect Activision and EA games to have graphical differences between the consoles.
So, in the end, it'll be whichever console you prefer. Which should make this a pretty even race, this time. Although, I expect some dirty tactics on MS's part...and Sony's as well. At least Sony's proven that a month or two without online services won't affect their user base as much. (Yes, being able to use DLC offline is a wondrous thing. Although, I THINK XBL fixed that little issue.)
So, in the end, it'll be whichever console you prefer. Which should make this a pretty even race, this time. Although, I expect some dirty tactics on MS's part...and Sony's as well. At least Sony's proven that a month or two without online services won't affect their user base as much. (Yes, being able to use DLC offline is a wondrous thing. Although, I THINK XBL fixed that little issue.)
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The simple solution would be to support XID or HID (I forget which) basically the software the PC and PS3 uses so you can just connect via USB. But if Microsoft play games and my GT2 isn't supported I will not be buying one. I will just switch to PC gaming, I also genuinely believe that the lack of support for the Logitech wheels contributed to Forzas lack of sales. The amount of people that have logitechs and quite rightly won't buy a new wheel just for one game would have probably bought an Xbox and forza if those wheels were supported. Like I said in my first point, I hope Microsoft rectify this situation.
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If that includes the few wheels that actually worked on the 360, it'd be slap in the face for sure.
1) Yup, HID is the "normal" input protocol used on the PC and the PS3. Would be nice to see MS add support for that.
2) Dunno, I think the amount of players who use wheels for their racing games make up a very small percentage of the actual audience.
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As far as the details go in the diagram, combined with other stuff read in other articles, it all sems legit. HDMI in is something that is confusing me as well. I can only presume it feeds the Kinect video in, and the specialist input is for the data. Because the Kinect 2 has a much higher resolution, I don't think a USB 2.0 or 3.0 input would be able to transfer the video data quickly enough, as well as the capture information for 25 data points for 6 people.
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You do realise you are in the xbox forums right? The 360 was quite possibly one of THE most unreliable consoles created in history. So many RROD that they had to extend the warranty worldwide. Anyway, installing the disc to the hd improves the performance and saves a LOT of wear and tear on the 360. After I went through at least 4-5 360s I started to install discs and the 360 lasts much longer now. I install EVERY game I play on the 360 to extend its life.
The most funny part about this is back when GTA4 came out and microsoft and Major nelson were making fun of the PS3 owners because they had to install the game before playing. Well looks like they get to eat their words for the next gen xbox. Forcing most installs on the PS3 was the smartest decision from Sony. Otherwise it would have had way more problems than it did. At least Microsoft finally learned their lesson and will force installs with next gen.
Will the next xbox have a blu ray player? Thats the one MAJOR selling point that the PS3 had over the 360. If the 360 had a blu ray player I probably never would have even bought the PS3.
As for xboxlive fixing the issue where you cant play certain games while offline, that issue is still present. Some arcade games dont work, indie games dont work, and other games have issues if not conneted to live. Hopefully thats resolved on the "durango" or whatever its called.
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According to SuperDaE, it will come with Blu-Ray for both games and movies. That pretty much falls in line with both consoles sharing similar specs.
http://kotaku.com/5982986/we-know-all-about-the-next-xbox-from-someone-who-says-theyve-got-one
http://kotaku.com/5982986/we-know-all-about-the-next-xbox-from-someone-who-says-theyve-got-one
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Nintendo is in that boat thank you very much. However, their disks are proprietary so that they can carry up to 25GB of data on a WiiU disk.
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The next xbox really NEEDS to have some sort of blu ray player. Probably wont be as good as the next gen PS3 blu ray player but hopefully it works at least as well as the PS3 blu ray player.
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SuperDaE, the individual behind a number Xbox Durango leaks, claims to have been raided by police.
Source: computerandvideogames.com
The industry insider appears to have been on authorities' radar in connection with his auctioning of an alleged next-gen Xbox development kit on eBay. Bidding on a second Durango PC available from seller "superdae" finished today at just over AU $50,000 (thanks, OXM).
"Police raided me," SuperDaE tweeted this morning, claiming that 7-8 officers turned up with an FBI agent. "I find it hilarious how the warrant only really mentions 'Microsoft', 'eBay', 'Paypal'."
SuperDaE recently claimed that the next-generation Xbox will require a Kinect sensor to be plugged in at all times to function.
Prior to that, SuperDaE published the first images of what appeared to be a development program for Kinect 2.
Source: computerandvideogames.com
The industry insider appears to have been on authorities' radar in connection with his auctioning of an alleged next-gen Xbox development kit on eBay. Bidding on a second Durango PC available from seller "superdae" finished today at just over AU $50,000 (thanks, OXM).
"Police raided me," SuperDaE tweeted this morning, claiming that 7-8 officers turned up with an FBI agent. "I find it hilarious how the warrant only really mentions 'Microsoft', 'eBay', 'Paypal'."
SuperDaE recently claimed that the next-generation Xbox will require a Kinect sensor to be plugged in at all times to function.
Prior to that, SuperDaE published the first images of what appeared to be a development program for Kinect 2.
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MS wouldn't never pay Sony royalties for every Xbox sold (which they would have to do if it had BR).. no way!
What I think they will do which others have touched upon is use a proprietary 'Blu Ray like' disk format to get all the benefits of the medium without paying any licences. Nintendo did it with the Wii with 'DVD like' disks and the Wii U.
The funny thing it MS just have such a format lying in the back room which they can resurrect... HDDVD. Just relabel it and they have their disk format.
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