They certainly were an easy way out at the launch of the game when people were grinding Fisherman's Ranch for literal peanuts in terms of pay, but really, they're still in the background, and with the culling of Tomahawk grinding, plus the announced raising of Legendary vehicle prices, I have no doubt that they're going to see more use again.
You would be surprised how easily tempted people can be despite the apparent high cost. Even some users here, the most dedicated players of the game surely least likely to buy them, say they have.
It depends on which model PD has decided to push with their microtransactions. More modern one doesn't rely on so called whales as much as ones that were popular 5+ years ago (and long before that).
I mean sure. When I said "nobody" I didn't mean literally zero people, I meant in comparison to what it would be if it were significantly cheaper. If you could buy 1 million credits for $1 (or even less!), you'd have like half of the active playerbase of single player doing it, likely over and over again. For a digital product that has zero cost to produce, total revenue is all that matters not profit per unit.
It depends if there are enough people that can/will pay 40. Obviously you don't need me to tell you that they need far less people buying the expensive ones to make more money than lots of people buying the cheaper ones, in terms of MTs.
You forget about the fact the whole business of MTX is to psychologically manipulate people into buying them.
You're absolutely right but you gotta admit pricing of MTX in GT7 is strange at best. This game's monetization makes little sense.
Personally (conspiracy theory time) I think they want to dump multiplayer in favour of Sophy.
Non-purchasable loot boxes are a wild west in general, especially since odds disclosure rule (something I've advocated for GT7; there is an unofficial drop rate analysis btw) don't apply to these things. (I asked about this issue during the "virtual rain delay" here.)
Well, that’s certainly a more likely reason than incompetence. Obviously, at the sharp end with the star racers and the FIA/Academy stuff they’ll want to keep it, but I’m not so sure the DR A, B,C levels should continue. In my experience it just creates loads of aggro and stress for the players anyway. If they didn’t link trophies to it I think uptake would be minuscule. If I’d not needed the 91 wins or whatever it was for the trophy there’s no way I’d have done more than a handful of races online, and I suspect I’m closer to the ‘average’ player than many on this forum. I think 7 asks for 50 races for the trophy, and I expect many people have done the 50 then just straight stopped. If PD know that it isn’t a good player experience they’d be nuts to keep chucking resources into it.
It's questions like this, which obviously don't have an answer, which really makes me want someone to sit down with Kaz and actually ask the hard questions. Not the gimmes.
Well what they get out of online racing is marketing and longevity. Single player games fall off pretty quickly as the vast majority of the players move on to something else withing the first few months. Online games can go years.
Ha! I did that earlier on, switched it on & just couldn't be arsed.
Pretty much every game is propped up by it's online community. Fifa, Madden, Cod, etc, etc.
All signs point to money. Spend as little as possible, make as much as possible. This iteration shows this more than any other.
I think this is becoming the norm, and this data is tracked. My friends, who have been HARDCORE, have abandoned it. I spend more time working on the hack than actually playing the game. I spend more time discussing it than playing it
Polyphony has been putting MTX in their games for years. They wanted to sell a game where it was essentially the iRacing model but with none of iRacing's benefits, you needed to buy your cars and tracks separately. They are not opposed to it in any way, they gladly add them by their own decision.
This doesn’t at all explain why, if it’s important for PD and Sony, online is such a mess in 7.
To keep 'em on their toes
That's sort of the impression I got from the pricing as well. They're pretty much not worth buying at this point in time and will probably become even more pointless as we get further into the game's life cycle. On the other hand, MTX can provide a significant amount of money to companies. It would be almost stupid not try to implement them in some form - still needs to be supported by a half-decent game though...
They only make so much money because the vast majority comes from like 0.2% of players who willingly dump hundreds or thousands into them.
All you’re saying here is “I don’t like how these people spend their time so I’m going to argue with them”. It’s bad when people complain, but it’s ok for you to complain because someone else complained first.To keep 'em on their toes
Because we (more like I) think that there are more important ways of spending your time then slaving away at video game, but the caveat is this: you never had to actually do any of that. You can prioritize what you want. You're also not limited to playing only GT.
You could easily support a company that's making a competitive product that is the same quality or better. Hell, you can switch to a platform that is more consumer friendly than what Sony is providing. To me it looks like an online mass-tantrum about a disappointing release, that's all. Try something new. WRC and ACC were recently on sale. Assetto Corsa with mods is pretty beastly too (if you have a PC).
Individually, you'll have no effect on the market but at least you end up doing something you enjoy and playing a game that "respects your time". Unless you want all the toys at the start?
Go on. Bite.
That's sort of the impression I got from the pricing as well. They're pretty much not worth buying at this point in time and will probably become even more pointless as we get further into the game's life cycle. On the other hand, MTX can provide a significant amount of money to companies. It would be almost stupid not try to implement them in some form - still needs to be supported by a half-decent game though...
Regardless, I wouldn't put that much trust in any company, they are in the business of making money. I expect every decision they make to help themselves in some way. Grand revelation.
All we can do is speculate on why they make certain decisions, hence why I don't feel that strongly about any of this to begin within. Unless they made a massive blunder in regards to their customers found acceptable, why would PD do something that would hurt their reputation even further?
I do two laps of Nordschliefe to receive my humiliation ticket then work on liveries. Don't even set the wheel up which means I am getting better with a controller. I know this game will get better; but sport mode kinda sucks now, in my opinion.
Yes. That's all it takes. I don't understand why I would need a greater justification than that. You can probably extend that to any argument you've had in your life. All that's left is justifying your position.
Huh? If people didn't say things I disagreed with... well there would be nothing to disagree with. It takes two to tango.
So you can complain, but its bad when I complain after you? Complaining about the complainers complaining about complaining? I'm not particularly interested in people not complaining. Its not like it isn't entertaining either
This changes nothing. If they make more money - especially long term - catering to whales compared to the money they lose from other players leaving, there's no financial incentive to focus on the majority of players. I don't know what you want me to say.
I think you’ve summed up the Gran Turismo community quite well here.
