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1:39.693. Much better than my experiment yesterday. I'm 7 tenths off now, but I think a 38 is possible. I haven't had a great sector 1 yet. Either I hit turn 1 well and stuff up the chicane or vice versa. I also find the double shifting much easier with this than the MP4. I swear it was 50/50 in that thing if it would actually shift twice or not. No such issues with this car.
 
Well done to PD for at least matching the right tyre to the right car, even if you couldn’t match the right car to the right (kerb) track.. Anyone else having a blast going sideways in this thing? Not sure if it’s fast but I’ve had some epic powerslides so far! 🤣

I almost did the whole multi apex right hander (like Istanbul Park backwards), decided to through some extra lock in to get a photo and straightened up way too quickly. Spent half an hour trying to recreate but found it quite hard to unsettle the car! It has loads of grip. Found a combination of scandi flick and banging it into second to over rev the car seemed to lock the rears to initiate the slide... handbrake is disabled (when moving) in time trials it seems?

So yeah... once in a slide it's effortlessly controllable... but I found you had to have made a pretty big mistake to end up sideways!
 
Don''t know how you guys can be so fast.
I'm struggling to get it under 1'42"....
Most of you are talking about 1'39-1'40.
Way out of my league.

Is there something you can adjust at the car?
I'm using controller.
The 1.31 update isn't friendly for me,i can't control any car since this update.
TC is set on 1.
On zero i'm just drifting and sliding all over the place.
Maybe i need to set it at level 2.

Edit:using Automatic transmission,can't get used to manaul shifting.
maybe because my medical conditions on my right hand/arm .
 
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Really fighting this one,couldn't get under 1:41,i was .177 out of gold yesterday,woke up .300 out,thought i'd try A/T and concentrate on a better line,cracked thru 1:41 finally,1:40.865 but still out of gold zone plus i'm still getting booted from time to time and then boom,games frozen,re-boot PS5,...it doesn't come back on,hit start button on controller,flashes blue for 10 seconds,down,oh oh,un-plug PS5(or so i thought),re-boot computer and voila ,logitech update,i switch the wheel between PS5 and Cpu all the time,plug PS5 cord back in which was actually the external storage(oops),hit start button on controller,PS5 fires up (whew),we're back in GT7,still using A/T and we are in the gold,for now...1:40.614, will switch back to M/T and see what happens :dopey:
 
I like the car and I like the track.
Yes, the red würstel are tedious: stay inside is a no go, touch them is a takeoff, stay a bit too much outside is a penalty.

I'm very weak in the left before the flying circus chicane and in the last double 90°.

I find coasting turn 1 better then braking, because I'm not sensible enough to brake the right amount.

I'm thinking to put a bit more brake bias on the front to limit the snap I have here and there, particularly at the 4 corner turn brake

Now at 41.74 with an ideal at the current gold-silver threshold.
 
Don''t know how you guys can be so fast.
I'm struggling to get it under 1'42"....
Most of you are talking about 1'39-1'40.
Way out of my league.

Is there something you can adjust at the car?
I'm using controller.
The 1.31 update isn't friendly for me,i can't control any car since this update.
TC is set on 1.
On zero i'm just drifting and sliding all over the place.
Maybe i need to set it at level 2.

Edit:using Automatic transmission,can't get used to manaul shifting.
maybe because my medical conditions on my right hand/arm .

Sorry to hear about your hand/arm. Controller is fine for a top time. I wonder if the A/T is putting you in too low a gear some times, hence the sliding? As mentioned I found it quite difficult to unsettle this car.

If you can get used to manual and TC off it might help. For example there is a small gain to be made skipping 5th gear in 2 maybe 3 places.

That said getting the right line, brake, turn in and acceleration points are all important too. Personally I found I was losing a lot in the first left/right/left chicane with everyone's favourite sausages. Getting a good exit on those gives a lot of time. Same can be said for the hair pin that follows.

Put on a quicker ghost and see if it reveals where you are losing the most, or watch some of the top laps and guides. Good luck!
 
I've only just jumped onto this and given it about 8 or 9 laps. Started with a terrible couple of laps then started to get the hang of it. Currently on a 1:42.0, but had a lap where I was -0.65s on my previous best but messed up the Chicken of Sausage and aborted the lap.

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After much deliberation I decided to give it a livery based on the Pescarolo C60 car run in the Le Mans Endurance Test in 2007, with some modernised logos for GT7, etc.

I really enjoy driving this car so I'll definitely be back for more laps to see if I can creep further up the ranks and improve my fairly average time!

Here's the original inspiration.

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And I might have to make this version as well, because it's such a nostalgic livery for me.

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Right now, I'm at a 1:39.8. My lap is below if you wanna watch.


It's a pain in the ass to need to go THROUGH the sausages there in that chicane and to do it perfectly, otherwise the car will go crazy...
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This vid you posted is a very good laptime, however still you didn't do the first sauage perfectly therefore you lost several tenths only for that.
 
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The Radical is a bit of an oddity and hates any kind of bump. I also feel like the brakes are too powerful for the car. It takes a while to get used to the unusual characteristics of a little track day special but when you do, it's quite fun. I managed to beat the gold time by 3 tenths or so with a 1:40.446. Not confident that I'll stay in the gold bracket but anyway.
 
This was a frustrating one. Should have been 1:38.999ish but went in hot on the last turn, had to pedal it out going wide and then it didn’t register my double shift 🤬🤬🤬 I really hate how they’ve ruined this car with the double shift nonsense.
So I’m knocking on the door but failed to bump @Dan_Tes by less than 4 hundredths. Hopefully I can get some time on it tomorrow or it’ll have to wait till next weekend.
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It's a pain in the ass to need to go THROUGH the sausages there in that chicane and to do it perfectly, otherwise the car will go crazy...
🤦‍♂️
This vid you posted is a very good laptime, however still you didn't do the first sauage perfectly therefore you lost several tenths only for that.
Yeah, the right hander could've been cleaner, but my goal was to hit a 39, and that was the lap I got it in, so I'm chilling for the next two weeks.

Hopefully.
 
I'm so frustrated with this combo, I like it a alot but the roulette of the salami’s giving me a real frustrating high bloodpresure 🤣
I think in 10 laps, 9 are restart due to the vibrators 😡

Then i had 10-ish laps that felt "ok" but only 40 low and occasional a 39.9,
Then thought ok last lap, done with it......

Drove the most sloppy lap ever because I was already done with it and was almost .400 faster then my PB......

I realy don't get it, but what I do know is that this is thr most frustrating off all, and don't think I'll be speding the same time on it as the Dan Van 🤣

You guys are running insane time with the super low 39's..... stop it! 🤣

Behoud my terrible sloppy but still kind of fast lap......

 
Don''t know how you guys can be so fast.
I'm struggling to get it under 1'42"....
Most of you are talking about 1'39-1'40.
Way out of my league.

Is there something you can adjust at the car?
I'm using controller.
The 1.31 update isn't friendly for me,i can't control any car since this update.
TC is set on 1.
On zero i'm just drifting and sliding all over the place.
Maybe i need to set it at level 2.

Edit:using Automatic transmission,can't get used to manaul shifting.
maybe because my medical conditions on my right hand/arm .
For this TT I use DS4 with TC at 0. On this TT, I can't get by with the G29. I will have to do a lot more laps with the steering wheel.
Since the last update I find the cars more picky to drive and with the steering wheel it's much better than before. It became a smoother ride and much less arcade than before.
 
I may have misspoken. It's not easy to make yourself understood by message. What I mean is that you can use the DS4 with the TC at 0 with the Radical. You can do a very good time. What is different compared to GT6 are the approach to corners, the trajectories and especially the moment of braking. In GT7 these elements are essential. If you miss one, you'll have bad weather. This is why GT7 is (in my opinion) closer to reality than GT6.
if you do all this right your Radical will not spin and you will be fine with the TC at 0
 
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I've only just jumped onto this and given it about 8 or 9 laps. Started with a terrible couple of laps then started to get the hang of it. Currently on a 1:42.0, but had a lap where I was -0.65s on my previous best but messed up the Chicken of Sausage and aborted the lap.

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After much deliberation I decided to give it a livery based on the Pescarolo C60 car run in the Le Mans Endurance Test in 2007, with some modernised logos for GT7, etc.

I really enjoy driving this car so I'll definitely be back for more laps to see if I can creep further up the ranks and improve my fairly average time!

Here's the original inspiration.

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And I might have to make this version as well, because it's such a nostalgic livery for me.

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Very smart livery amigo! I think a decent paint job is worth half a second a lap so you’re going to be rocketing up the friends leadership board very soon 🚀
This was a frustrating one. Should have been 1:38.999ish but went in hot on the last turn, had to pedal it out going wide and then it didn’t register my double shift 🤬🤬🤬 I really hate how they’ve ruined this car with the double shift nonsense.
So I’m knocking on the door but failed to bump @Dan_Tes by less than 4 hundredths. Hopefully I can get some time on it tomorrow or it’ll have to wait till next weekend.
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😂😂😂 it’s like the Dan Van challenge all over again! Hopefully you have time today to get stuck into the 1:38.xxx’s. Do you find ways of recommending Netflix rabbit holes to the wife to manufacturer extra PlayStation time? That’s what I’d be doing, some Inception **** maybe 😈

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I'm so frustrated with this combo, I like it a alot but the roulette of the salami’s giving me a real frustrating high bloodpresure 🤣
I think in 10 laps, 9 are restart due to the vibrators 😡

Then i had 10-ish laps that felt "ok" but only 40 low and occasional a 39.9,
Then thought ok last lap, done with it......

Drove the most sloppy lap ever because I was already done with it and was almost .400 faster then my PB......

I realy don't get it, but what I do know is that this is thr most frustrating off all, and don't think I'll be speding the same time on it as the Dan Van 🤣

You guys are running insane time with the super low 39's..... stop it! 🤣

Behoud my terrible sloppy but still kind of fast lap......


👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 still fast on your potato setup! I think you’re the sort of guy who would take a 90s Renault Twingo on the ‘ring and bully Porsche 911 GT3 RS’s 😅. You didn’t need to shift to 5th just before the finish line, that probably cost you 0.1s. I notice also you stay to the right down the back straight? I think if you take a line from the exit kerb of the CORV’s to the left of the track where it slightly jinks left and then aim for the right hand kerb of the entry to the hairpin, you will save some time too!

DANS THOUGHT OF THE DAY: There’s a lot of talk of the double shift and how annoying it is; I think the key to this one is that gearshifts are slow so just minimise them as much as possible for a fast lap. In fact there are two pivotal things, avoiding shifting regularly and getting on the power early for the long straights.

If you watch the WR Replay as it stands (M. Buhdeima, 1:37.831), he spends a lot of time in 4th gear only using lower gears for rotation/out of slow corners. He’s on the power in 4th just after the first •raised vibrator• in the chicane which makes him loads of time down the back straight. Same with the quad apex, in 4th and early on the power after the second apex. There are actually two shifts where he loses a bit of time, going into 3rd then 4th after the hairpin which can be worth up to 0.1s (rather than double shifting from 2nd to 4th) and going into 5th before the finish line (instead of staying in 4th). So even the world record time was done without necessarily shifting in the right place/double shifting.

What is my rambling point? Don’t fret too much about the double shift, it saves a tiny bit of time but won’t necessarily punish you. I stay in 4th down the pit straight to the finish line when I think it’s a good lap/on for a record time. Down the long back straight I try and double shift from 4th to 6th, if I accidentally shift into 5th instead I stay in 5th; same after the quad apex, try and double shift from 4th to 6th but if I end up in 5th I stay in 5th to the braking point for the final double left hander. (EDIT: I don't my left from my right)

Not sure if any of that rambling was useful but yeah there’s easy time to be made on this track without working too hard!
 
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Steady improvements and don’t feel anywhere close to my max, which is cool because I’m in gold! 1:40.444 Edit: 1:40.300 but kids are being dramatic and pretending to starve so see y’all’s crazy times later!

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Decided to make my own livery this time around. Def needs some work, but I figured with this livery I could be Chasin’ The Booty! Yarrr Matey!!!
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I have a very strong feeling this TT is just a lottery on whether the infamous kerbs will let you survive a possible barrel roll siege while on a good lap or not... not very enjoyable :irked:

Anyway, I'll stop at 1:38.218 for now. Just enough to be seen on the pre-entry top 8 leaderboard.

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My effort around Dragon Trail. 1'37.977🤟


Not quite enough for #4 (awesome time @Metalgear9493 ), but I found some improvement today. I predict many of us will be in the 1:38's by the end. Once you get past the sausages, the rest is tricky, but not overly so.

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You've all been reported... :lol:
 
I don't know how you guys are spinning or losing the tail on the Radical. I find it so planted and settled - aside from when launched by the sausages, of course!!
In my case I dipped the rear right onto the grass on the exit of the final corner onto the straight. And since the curb has a bit of a ramp, the combination had me lose control. Otherwise it's quite a solid track machine.
 
In my case I dipped the rear right onto the grass on the exit of the final corner onto the straight. And since the curb has a bit of a ramp, the combination had me lose control. Otherwise it's quite a solid track machine.
That would explain it. Maybe I'm being too cautious and not pushing track limits enough to incite any spins or tail-happy action.
 
I know you guys are already dealing with the new TT but I hope it’s OK to share with all of you my lap from the last one with the Alpha Van!



Good luck everyone on the new challenge! Btw don’t forget to stay away from the sausages 😬

Great lap!! One thing, do you have tyre noises turned all the way down or did you just keep it unbelievably clean all the way round!? I have tyre noises set to maximum because I find it difficult to notice when the rear end breaks away (it doesn't help, I still have no idea :lol:).

A few laps for me today but no improvement, I have adjusted my pedals to a two pedal setup with the brake more central.. It's so much better (especially for my dodgy spine :odd:) but will take a while to get used to. Optimimum is well into the 1:38.xxx's so hopefully we will crack that soon.

As for the raised vibrators... I'm not entirely sure you need to go over the first one, if you keep it tight it doesn't seem to cost much time but you definitely need to go over the second one for the back straight! Is anyone else just using 5th for the back straight now, I noticed P2 used it (accidentally or on purpose..) and I think @half_sourly.. I'm starting to think it is quicker and then just holding 5th until the hairpin. Still using 4th to 6th after the quad-curve and staying in 4th to the finish (on a good lap... which is never :dunce:)
 
As for the raised vibrators... I'm not entirely sure you need to go over the first one, if you keep it tight it doesn't seem to cost much time but you definitely need to go over the second one for the back straight! Is anyone else just using 5th for the back straight now, I noticed P2 used it (accidentally or on purpose..) and I think @half_sourly.. I'm starting to think it is quicker and then just holding 5th until the hairpin. Still using 4th to 6th after the quad-curve and staying in 4th to the finish (on a good lap... which is never
The benefit of going over the first one is that if you get it right it provides a better line into the second. Tiny benefit but potential to build during the long straight.

For that straight to the hairpin, from what I've seen in my own laps, exiting in third, double shifting to fifth and holding it is quicker than using sixth (either exiting in fourth and going to sixth, or exiting in third, going up to fourth and then double shifting to sixth). But I'm not super consistent so my outputs might be coincidental to my inputs rather than definitely linked to them.
 
The benefit of going over the first one is that if you get it right it provides a better line into the second. Tiny benefit but potential to build during the long straight.

For that straight to the hairpin, from what I've seen in my own laps, exiting in third, double shifting to fifth and holding it is quicker than using sixth (either exiting in fourth and going to sixth, or exiting in third, going up to fourth and then double shifting to sixth). But I'm not super consistent so my outputs might be coincidental to my inputs rather than definitely linked to them.
That's the game I've been playing watching shift points in replays, IS THIS QUICKER OR DID THEY JUST **** UP!
 
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