Top Gear Comparo Thread.
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If you do not have the replay of that run, you can make a screenshot of your lap time which you will find on the leaderboard with your ten fastest lap times. Furthermore, as long as you manage roughly the same or a better time, all should be okay.
Did you alter any settings on the car? Or did you buy other tyres? Are you using driving aids?
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#14 The Top Gear GT4 BTCC Comp
Round 3: Challange2: Race1
Its time to see if you can be quick but also gentle on your front tyres, which is an important skill in FWD touring car racing. Go to quick Arcade mode, and use the following options;
Race Length – 6 laps,
Tyre Wear – Strong,
Driving Assists – (optional)
Penalty – None,
Time Limit – None.
Then choose the circuit Midfield (normal direction) and grab your car. When you select it then use the following options;
Transmission (Either),
Driving Aids (Optional),
Tyres – Sports Soft,
AI cars + 5.
The quick-tune options should be left as is (no adjusting weight or power). PM me your race time and your finish position within 48 hours of this post. Feel free to use line-up juggling, to get a good field, as I want your finish position as well.
Round Two results / Grid for Race1
1. Ford Focus ST170 '03 - Magic Racer - 1:30.504
2. Renault Clio Renault Sport 2.0 16V '02 - AndersonG22 - 1:31.171
3. Mazda 323F '93 - Smallhorses - 1:32.090
4. Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - korza493 - 1:32.342*
5. Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - BH-21 - 1:33.119
6. Honda Accord Euro-R '00 - SVX - 1:33.550
7. Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe '98 - tricd04 - 1:35.747
*Late submission
For reference - Nissan Primera 20V '01 - Shotamagee - 1:34.592
EDIT: I should have added that within Arcade Mode you should use the Single race option, that way you get tyre wear and AI opponents. It's also been bought to my attention that I should add that as the race finishes you need to be ready to note your finish time, as you only see it once, so be ready.
Round 3: Challange2: Race1
Its time to see if you can be quick but also gentle on your front tyres, which is an important skill in FWD touring car racing. Go to quick Arcade mode, and use the following options;
Race Length – 6 laps,
Tyre Wear – Strong,
Driving Assists – (optional)
Penalty – None,
Time Limit – None.
Then choose the circuit Midfield (normal direction) and grab your car. When you select it then use the following options;
Transmission (Either),
Driving Aids (Optional),
Tyres – Sports Soft,
AI cars + 5.
The quick-tune options should be left as is (no adjusting weight or power). PM me your race time and your finish position within 48 hours of this post. Feel free to use line-up juggling, to get a good field, as I want your finish position as well.
Round Two results / Grid for Race1
1. Ford Focus ST170 '03 - Magic Racer - 1:30.504
2. Renault Clio Renault Sport 2.0 16V '02 - AndersonG22 - 1:31.171
3. Mazda 323F '93 - Smallhorses - 1:32.090
4. Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - korza493 - 1:32.342*
5. Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - BH-21 - 1:33.119
6. Honda Accord Euro-R '00 - SVX - 1:33.550
7. Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe '98 - tricd04 - 1:35.747
*Late submission
For reference - Nissan Primera 20V '01 - Shotamagee - 1:34.592
EDIT: I should have added that within Arcade Mode you should use the Single race option, that way you get tyre wear and AI opponents. It's also been bought to my attention that I should add that as the race finishes you need to be ready to note your finish time, as you only see it once, so be ready.
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I'm somewhat interested in why you felt the adjective 'magical' was necessary in submitting that time, the best I managed with that car was 1:32.560. I repeat the car should be in stock condition, no changes (not even an oil change) were allowed for the qualifying round. The Alfa should have 174HP and weigh 1320KG. If you did that time with that car in that specification, then well done nice lap.
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First of all, thank you for hosting this round of the 'Top Gear Comparison'. 👍
As you can see in one of my previous posts, I managed a lap time which is only one tenth of a second faster than yours. That given, I assume that the driver in question has probably altered car settings or simply switched to a better (here: softer) tyre compound (by mistake). But let's see the replay first...
~ EDIT ~ Private message regarding the 3rd Round of this challenge sent to shotamagee. 👍
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Korza
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After looking over the car I used to set the 1'30.021 time, it was a car that I had brought a while ago which I think I had tuned a little bit. I am going to resit the time with a car brought from the used car lot.
New qualifying time:1'32.342
New qualifying time:1'32.342
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#14 The Top Gear GT4 BTCC Comp
Round 3 results (sorry this post is so long and appears so complicated)
Submitted race times
1. Ford Focus ST170 '03 - Magic Racer – 9:15.410
2. Renault Clio Renault Sport 2.0 16V '02 - AndersonG22 – 9:17.814
3. Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - korza493 – 9:17.821
4. Mazda 323F '93 - Smallhorses – 9:30.475
5. Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe '98 - tricd04 - 9:35.658
6. Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - BH-21 – 9:36.732
7. Honda Accord Euro-R '00 - SVX - DNF
For reference - Nissan Primera 20V '01 - Shotamagee – 9:37.704
Qualifying adjustment.
As a result of starting on pole your race time should be quicker, this is the formula I used to simulate this, start position;
1st + 0.0 (seconds)
2nd + 0.2
3rd + 0.4
4th + 0.6
5th + 0.8
etc.
Race position adjustment
Also I asked for your race finish position, which I adjusted as follows;
1st + 0.0 (seconds)
2nd + 1.0
3rd + 2.0
etc.
So these are your adjusted Race1 finish times.
Magic Racer – 9:15.410 (+0.0)
AndersonG22 – 9:18.014 (+0.2)
Korza493 – 9:19.021 (+1.2) *
Smallhorses – 9:30.875 (+0.4)
tricd04 – 9:36.658 (+1.0)
BH-21 – 9:38.332 (+0.6) (+1.0)
SVX – DNF (+0.8)
* Grid penalty due to late submission of corrected qualifying time, so started from rear of grid.
Current BTCC points system
position 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Pole FL LAL
points, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1.
* For this competition the Pole, Fastest Lap & Lead A Lap bonus points will not be used.
So the current points heading into the 2nd Race are as follows.
Current Standings
Magic Racer – 15 points
AndersonG22 – 12 points
Korza493 – 10 points
Smallhorses – 8 points
tricd04 – 6 points
BH-21 – 5 points
SVX – 4 points
Round 4: Challenge3: Race2
Its time to start turning your cars into something that’s Worthy of the BTC title.
You’ve been given a budget of $70000 to spend on any parts that affect your power or weight, and an additional $40000 to spend on non PWR affecting parts. (brakes, suspension, gearbox etc)
Note1: The maximum (garage value) HP you can tune your car up to is 275HP.
Note2: The minimum (garage value) weight you can tune your car down to is 1050KG (The Renault Clio will need to ballasted up to the minimum weight (15,0)) (If a weight reduction puts you under the minimum weight, then tough luck you can't use it, I need to keep your ballast free, as per Note4.)
Note3: The BTCC cars of this era where normally aspirated, and as such the use of Turbo, Intercooler, Supercharger & NOS upgrades are not allowed. Also note that the tyres must be left as is (S2's), and the fitting of a wing is also not allowed for this round.
Note4: Success Ballast; The BTCC uses success ballast to try to handicap the quickest cars, this is calculated as follows;
1st position: +45 Kg
2nd: +36 Kg
3rd: +27 Kg
4th: +18 Kg
5th: +9 Kg
6th or lower: 0 Kg
So after fitting your parts, the top 5 Race 1 finishing cars all need to add ballast for Race 2. (all ballast must be carried at (x,0) (no shifting weight back or forwards).
Magic Racer + 45kg
AndersonG22 + 51kg (36 success + 15 to meet minimum weight)
Korza493 + 27kg
Smallhorses + 18kg
tricd04 + 9kg
BH-21 + 0kg
SVX + 0kg
You can adjust any newly fitted parts however you wish, and then re run Challenge 1, (Original Circuits / Midfield / Free Run). Standard OLR rules apply.
Post your total parts expenses and new power and weight values in this thread, then PM me your best time, you have 48 hours from this post to do so. Standard OLR rules apply.
If any of that was confusing query away I’ll try to answer as quickly as possible.
Round 3 results (sorry this post is so long and appears so complicated)
Submitted race times
1. Ford Focus ST170 '03 - Magic Racer – 9:15.410
2. Renault Clio Renault Sport 2.0 16V '02 - AndersonG22 – 9:17.814
3. Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - korza493 – 9:17.821
4. Mazda 323F '93 - Smallhorses – 9:30.475
5. Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe '98 - tricd04 - 9:35.658
6. Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - BH-21 – 9:36.732
7. Honda Accord Euro-R '00 - SVX - DNF
For reference - Nissan Primera 20V '01 - Shotamagee – 9:37.704
Qualifying adjustment.
As a result of starting on pole your race time should be quicker, this is the formula I used to simulate this, start position;
1st + 0.0 (seconds)
2nd + 0.2
3rd + 0.4
4th + 0.6
5th + 0.8
etc.
Race position adjustment
Also I asked for your race finish position, which I adjusted as follows;
1st + 0.0 (seconds)
2nd + 1.0
3rd + 2.0
etc.
So these are your adjusted Race1 finish times.
Magic Racer – 9:15.410 (+0.0)
AndersonG22 – 9:18.014 (+0.2)
Korza493 – 9:19.021 (+1.2) *
Smallhorses – 9:30.875 (+0.4)
tricd04 – 9:36.658 (+1.0)
BH-21 – 9:38.332 (+0.6) (+1.0)
SVX – DNF (+0.8)
* Grid penalty due to late submission of corrected qualifying time, so started from rear of grid.
Current BTCC points system
position 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Pole FL LAL
points, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1.
* For this competition the Pole, Fastest Lap & Lead A Lap bonus points will not be used.
So the current points heading into the 2nd Race are as follows.
Current Standings
Magic Racer – 15 points
AndersonG22 – 12 points
Korza493 – 10 points
Smallhorses – 8 points
tricd04 – 6 points
BH-21 – 5 points
SVX – 4 points
Round 4: Challenge3: Race2
Its time to start turning your cars into something that’s Worthy of the BTC title.
You’ve been given a budget of $70000 to spend on any parts that affect your power or weight, and an additional $40000 to spend on non PWR affecting parts. (brakes, suspension, gearbox etc)
Note1: The maximum (garage value) HP you can tune your car up to is 275HP.
Note2: The minimum (garage value) weight you can tune your car down to is 1050KG (The Renault Clio will need to ballasted up to the minimum weight (15,0)) (If a weight reduction puts you under the minimum weight, then tough luck you can't use it, I need to keep your ballast free, as per Note4.)
Note3: The BTCC cars of this era where normally aspirated, and as such the use of Turbo, Intercooler, Supercharger & NOS upgrades are not allowed. Also note that the tyres must be left as is (S2's), and the fitting of a wing is also not allowed for this round.
Note4: Success Ballast; The BTCC uses success ballast to try to handicap the quickest cars, this is calculated as follows;
1st position: +45 Kg
2nd: +36 Kg
3rd: +27 Kg
4th: +18 Kg
5th: +9 Kg
6th or lower: 0 Kg
So after fitting your parts, the top 5 Race 1 finishing cars all need to add ballast for Race 2. (all ballast must be carried at (x,0) (no shifting weight back or forwards).
Magic Racer + 45kg
AndersonG22 + 51kg (36 success + 15 to meet minimum weight)
Korza493 + 27kg
Smallhorses + 18kg
tricd04 + 9kg
BH-21 + 0kg
SVX + 0kg
You can adjust any newly fitted parts however you wish, and then re run Challenge 1, (Original Circuits / Midfield / Free Run). Standard OLR rules apply.
Post your total parts expenses and new power and weight values in this thread, then PM me your best time, you have 48 hours from this post to do so. Standard OLR rules apply.
If any of that was confusing query away I’ll try to answer as quickly as possible.
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Power / Weight:
Total: 61550 Cr.
Handling:
Total: 38200 Cr.
Final Power Output: 272 hp
Final Weight: 1091 kg + 45 kg = 1136 kg
~ EDIT ~ Time submitted.
- Racing Exhaust - 4600 Cr.
- NA Tuning Stage 2 - 12000 Cr.
- Port Polishing - 5250 Cr.
- Engine Balancing - 11000 Cr.
- Racing Chip - 1250 Cr.
- Weight Reduction Stage 1 - 1100 Cr.
- Weight Reduction Stage 2 - 5300 Cr.
- Weight Reduction Stage 3 - 21000 Cr.
- Oil Change - 50 Cr.
Total: 61550 Cr.
Handling:
- Brake Balance Controller - 10300 Cr.
- Triple-plate Clutch - 4600 Cr.
- Racing Flywheel - 1000 Cr.
- Fully Customizable Limited-Slip Differential - 6300 Cr.
- Fully Customizable Suspension - 16000 Cr.
Total: 38200 Cr.
Final Power Output: 272 hp
Final Weight: 1091 kg + 45 kg = 1136 kg
~ EDIT ~ Time submitted.
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Opel Vectra 3.2 V2 '03
Power / Weight:
Racing Exhaust - 4600 Cr.
NA Tuning Stage 1 - 4,700 Cr.
Racing Chip - 1250 Cr.
Weight Reduction Stage 1 - 1100 Cr.
Weight Reduction Stage 2 - 5300 Cr.
Weight Reduction Stage 3 - 21000 Cr.
Total: 37,950 Cr.
Handling:
Triple-plate Clutch - 4600 Cr.
Racing Flywheel - 1000 Cr.
Fully Customizable Limited-Slip Differential - 6300 Cr.
Fully Customizable Suspension - 16000 Cr.
Fully Customizabel Transmission - 10,200 Cr.
Total: 38,100 Cr.
Final Power Output: 272 hp
Final Weight: 1,253 kg
Smallhorses
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Here's my details.
Mazda 323F '93
Weight / Power Spending:
Oil change 50Cr
Weight Reduction: Stage 1 1000Cr
Weight Reduction: Stage 2 5000Cr
Weight Reduction: Stage 3 20000Cr
Exhaust & Air Filter: Semi-Racing 2800Cr
NA Tuning: Stage 2 11500Cr
Port Polish 5000Cr
Engine Balancing 10000Cr
Racing Chip 1000Cr
Total Spent: 56350Cr
Stats before ballast penalty: 274HP 1091kg
Stats after 18kg ballast penalty: 274HP 1109kg
Drivetrain / Suspension spending:
Transmission: Full Customise 10000Cr
Suspension: Full Customise 15000Cr
Racing Brakes 4500Cr
Triple-Plate Clutch 4500Cr
Flywheel Racing 900Cr
Limited-Slip: 2-way 4000Cr
Total spent: 38900Cr
Mazda 323F '93
Weight / Power Spending:
Oil change 50Cr
Weight Reduction: Stage 1 1000Cr
Weight Reduction: Stage 2 5000Cr
Weight Reduction: Stage 3 20000Cr
Exhaust & Air Filter: Semi-Racing 2800Cr
NA Tuning: Stage 2 11500Cr
Port Polish 5000Cr
Engine Balancing 10000Cr
Racing Chip 1000Cr
Total Spent: 56350Cr
Stats before ballast penalty: 274HP 1091kg
Stats after 18kg ballast penalty: 274HP 1109kg
Drivetrain / Suspension spending:
Transmission: Full Customise 10000Cr
Suspension: Full Customise 15000Cr
Racing Brakes 4500Cr
Triple-Plate Clutch 4500Cr
Flywheel Racing 900Cr
Limited-Slip: 2-way 4000Cr
Total spent: 38900Cr
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Weight / Power Spending:
70,000 n/a tuning stage 3
Total Spent: 70,000
Drivetrain / Suspension spending:
16,000 Suspension stage 3
10,200 tranny stage 3
6300 LSD full
4600 clutch stage 3
1000 flywheel stage 3
Total spent: 38,100
249hp
1086kg
70,000 n/a tuning stage 3
Total Spent: 70,000
Drivetrain / Suspension spending:
16,000 Suspension stage 3
10,200 tranny stage 3
6300 LSD full
4600 clutch stage 3
1000 flywheel stage 3
Total spent: 38,100
249hp
1086kg
Weight/Power Spending:
Oil Change - 50Cr
Racing Exhaust - 4,800Cr
NA Tuning Stage 1 - 4,900Cr
Port Polish - 5,500Cr
Engine Balancing - 12,000Cr
Racing Chip - 1,500Cr
Weight Reduction Stage 1 - 1,200Cr
Weight Reduction Stage 2 - 5,500Cr
Weight Reduction Stage 3 - 22,000Cr
Total for Power/Weight Costs - 57,450Cr
New Power - 274 HP
New Weight - 1294 kg
Non-Power/Weight Spending:
Racing Brakes - 4,700Cr
Fully Customizable Transmission - 10,400Cr
Sports Clutch - 1,700Cr
Racing Flywheel - 1,050Cr
1.5-Way Limited Slip - 4,500Cr
Fully Customizable Suspension - 17,000Cr
Total for Non-Power/Weight - 39,350Cr
Oil Change - 50Cr
Racing Exhaust - 4,800Cr
NA Tuning Stage 1 - 4,900Cr
Port Polish - 5,500Cr
Engine Balancing - 12,000Cr
Racing Chip - 1,500Cr
Weight Reduction Stage 1 - 1,200Cr
Weight Reduction Stage 2 - 5,500Cr
Weight Reduction Stage 3 - 22,000Cr
Total for Power/Weight Costs - 57,450Cr
New Power - 274 HP
New Weight - 1294 kg
Non-Power/Weight Spending:
Racing Brakes - 4,700Cr
Fully Customizable Transmission - 10,400Cr
Sports Clutch - 1,700Cr
Racing Flywheel - 1,050Cr
1.5-Way Limited Slip - 4,500Cr
Fully Customizable Suspension - 17,000Cr
Total for Non-Power/Weight - 39,350Cr
Korza
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- kamikazi493
Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 '98
Power: 251BHP
Weight: 1156kg
Power / Weight:
* Racing Exhaust - 4,800 Cr.
* NA Tuning Stage 1 - 4,700 Cr.
* Port Polishing - 5,500 Cr.
* Engine Balancing - 12,000 Cr.
* Racing Chip - 1,500 Cr.
* Weight Reduction Stage 1 - 1,200 Cr.
* Weight Reduction Stage 2 - 5,500 Cr.
* Weight Reduction Stage 3 - 23,000 Cr.
* Oil Change - 50 Cr.
Total: 61,550 Cr.
Handling:
* Brake Balance Controller - 10,600 Cr.
* Triple-plate Clutch - 4,700 Cr.
* Racing Flywheel - 1,050 Cr.
* Fully Customizable Limited-Slip Differential - 6,600 Cr.
* Fully Customizable Suspension - 17,000 Cr
Total: 39,950 Cr.
Power: 251BHP
Weight: 1156kg
Power / Weight:
* Racing Exhaust - 4,800 Cr.
* NA Tuning Stage 1 - 4,700 Cr.
* Port Polishing - 5,500 Cr.
* Engine Balancing - 12,000 Cr.
* Racing Chip - 1,500 Cr.
* Weight Reduction Stage 1 - 1,200 Cr.
* Weight Reduction Stage 2 - 5,500 Cr.
* Weight Reduction Stage 3 - 23,000 Cr.
* Oil Change - 50 Cr.
Total: 61,550 Cr.
Handling:
* Brake Balance Controller - 10,600 Cr.
* Triple-plate Clutch - 4,700 Cr.
* Racing Flywheel - 1,050 Cr.
* Fully Customizable Limited-Slip Differential - 6,600 Cr.
* Fully Customizable Suspension - 17,000 Cr
Total: 39,950 Cr.
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Nissan Primera 20V '01
New HP: 269
New Weight: 1137kg
Old HP: 137
Old Weight: 1210kg
Power / Weight Upgrades
Oil Change - 50CR - 151HP
NA Stage3 - 65000CR - 249HP
PC Chip - 1000CR - 258HP
Semi Race Exh - 2800 - 269HP
Stage1 Weight - 1000 - 1137Kg
Total - 69850CR
Non Power / Weight Upgrades
FC Suspension - 15000CR
FC Transmission - 10000CR
Variable LSD - 6000CR
Race Brakes - 4500CR
Race Flywheel - 900CR
Twin Clutch - 2500CR
Total - 38900CR
New HP: 269
New Weight: 1137kg
Old HP: 137
Old Weight: 1210kg
Power / Weight Upgrades
Oil Change - 50CR - 151HP
NA Stage3 - 65000CR - 249HP
PC Chip - 1000CR - 258HP
Semi Race Exh - 2800 - 269HP
Stage1 Weight - 1000 - 1137Kg
Total - 69850CR
Non Power / Weight Upgrades
FC Suspension - 15000CR
FC Transmission - 10000CR
Variable LSD - 6000CR
Race Brakes - 4500CR
Race Flywheel - 900CR
Twin Clutch - 2500CR
Total - 38900CR
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#14 The Top Gear GT4 BTCC Comp
Round 4 results
Submitted race times
1. Ford Focus ST170 '03 - Magic Racer – 1:23.112
2. Renault Clio Renault Sport 2.0 16V '02 - AndersonG22 – 1:24.497
3. Mazda 323F '93 - Smallhorses – 1:24.507
4. Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - korza493 – 1:26.709
5. Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - BH-21 – 1:26.924
6. Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe '98 - tricd04 – 1:27.094
For reference - Nissan Primera 20V '01 - Shotamagee – 1:24.425 (I have to admit, I did have AndersonG22 & Smallhorses times to aim for)
Start position adjustment.
As a result of starting on pole your race time should be quicker, this is the formula I used to simulate this, start position; (which is the adjusted finish position from Race1)
1st + 0.0 (seconds)
2nd + 0.2
3rd + 0.4
4th + 0.6
5th + 0.8
etc.
So these are your adjusted Race2 finish times.
Magic Racer – 1:23.112 (+0.0)
AndersonG22 – 1:24.697 (+0.2)
Smallhorses – 1:25.107 (+0.6)
Korza493 – 1:27.109 (+0.4)
tricd04 – 1:27.894 (+0.8)
BH-21 – 1:27.924 (+1.0)
Current BTCC points system
position 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Pole FL LAL
points, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1.
* For this competition the Pole, Fastest Lap & Lead A Lap bonus points will not be used.
So the current points heading into the 3rd Race are as follows.
Current Standings
Magic Racer – 30 points
AndersonG22 – 24 points
Korza493 – 18 points
Smallhorses – 18 points
tricd04 – 12 points
BH-21 – 10 points
Round 5: Challenge4: Race3
Its time to turn your cars into something pretty damn close to a BTC, and for the reverse grid Race3.
You have been supplied with a new pair of R2 (Race Hard) tyres and a wing for your pit crew to fit before the final race.
Your settings (no other new parts, use the car parts from Round 4) can be adjusted if need be, before you head back to the track.
You will now use the Midfield (Normal Direction) Family Cup event with AI @ + 4, PM me your best time for the full race (2laps) within 48 hours of this post.
Note1: You can try this as many times as you like and you are encouraged to use the “BTCC style” of racing, this includes attempting overoptimistic late braking manoeuvres and excessively aggressive AI rubbing, just don’t complain if they push back. (This does not include excessive blocking or using the AI as your brakes) The OLR rules should still be followed.
Note2: Success Ballast; The BTCC uses success ballast to try to handicap the quickest cars, this is calculated as follows;
1st position: +45 Kg
2nd: +36 Kg
3rd: +27 Kg
4th: +18 Kg
5th: +9 Kg
6th or lower: 0 Kg
So the top 5 Race 2 finishing cars all need to add additional ballast for Race 3. (all ballast must be carried at (x,0) (no shifting weight backwards or forwards).
Magic Racer + 90kg (45+45)
AndersonG22 + 87kg (15+36+36)
Smallhorses + 45kg (18+27)
Korza493 + 45kg (27+18)
tricd04 + 18kg (9+9)
BH-21 + 0kg (0+0)
If any of that was confusing query away, I’ll try to clarify as quickly as possible.
Round 4 results
Submitted race times
1. Ford Focus ST170 '03 - Magic Racer – 1:23.112
2. Renault Clio Renault Sport 2.0 16V '02 - AndersonG22 – 1:24.497
3. Mazda 323F '93 - Smallhorses – 1:24.507
4. Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - korza493 – 1:26.709
5. Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - BH-21 – 1:26.924
6. Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe '98 - tricd04 – 1:27.094
For reference - Nissan Primera 20V '01 - Shotamagee – 1:24.425 (I have to admit, I did have AndersonG22 & Smallhorses times to aim for)
Start position adjustment.
As a result of starting on pole your race time should be quicker, this is the formula I used to simulate this, start position; (which is the adjusted finish position from Race1)
1st + 0.0 (seconds)
2nd + 0.2
3rd + 0.4
4th + 0.6
5th + 0.8
etc.
So these are your adjusted Race2 finish times.
Magic Racer – 1:23.112 (+0.0)
AndersonG22 – 1:24.697 (+0.2)
Smallhorses – 1:25.107 (+0.6)
Korza493 – 1:27.109 (+0.4)
tricd04 – 1:27.894 (+0.8)
BH-21 – 1:27.924 (+1.0)
Current BTCC points system
position 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Pole FL LAL
points, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1.
* For this competition the Pole, Fastest Lap & Lead A Lap bonus points will not be used.
So the current points heading into the 3rd Race are as follows.
Current Standings
Magic Racer – 30 points
AndersonG22 – 24 points
Korza493 – 18 points
Smallhorses – 18 points
tricd04 – 12 points
BH-21 – 10 points
Round 5: Challenge4: Race3
Its time to turn your cars into something pretty damn close to a BTC, and for the reverse grid Race3.
You have been supplied with a new pair of R2 (Race Hard) tyres and a wing for your pit crew to fit before the final race.
Your settings (no other new parts, use the car parts from Round 4) can be adjusted if need be, before you head back to the track.
You will now use the Midfield (Normal Direction) Family Cup event with AI @ + 4, PM me your best time for the full race (2laps) within 48 hours of this post.
Note1: You can try this as many times as you like and you are encouraged to use the “BTCC style” of racing, this includes attempting overoptimistic late braking manoeuvres and excessively aggressive AI rubbing, just don’t complain if they push back. (This does not include excessive blocking or using the AI as your brakes) The OLR rules should still be followed.
Note2: Success Ballast; The BTCC uses success ballast to try to handicap the quickest cars, this is calculated as follows;
1st position: +45 Kg
2nd: +36 Kg
3rd: +27 Kg
4th: +18 Kg
5th: +9 Kg
6th or lower: 0 Kg
So the top 5 Race 2 finishing cars all need to add additional ballast for Race 3. (all ballast must be carried at (x,0) (no shifting weight backwards or forwards).
Magic Racer + 90kg (45+45)
AndersonG22 + 87kg (15+36+36)
Smallhorses + 45kg (18+27)
Korza493 + 45kg (27+18)
tricd04 + 18kg (9+9)
BH-21 + 0kg (0+0)
If any of that was confusing query away, I’ll try to clarify as quickly as possible.
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For clarification, we are running Midfield reverse, and not normal?
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No run it in the normal direction. (its a reverse grid, not reverse direction race)
When you've submitted your times, the Start position adjustment will be reversed.
eg. as Magic Racer finished race2 in 1st he will effectivly start race3 in last, so the reverse grid bit will only affect your start position adjustment, which I will sort out.
Clear as mud?
I'll still Edit post 892 to make it more clear.
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Sorry folks. Expected to be home to run this tonight. Not going to happen. 300 miles roundtrip for the opportunity to run GT4 or hotel for a good night's sleep. Latter wins I'm afraid. ZZZZZZ.
Smallhorses DNF.
Smallhorses DNF.
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#14 The Top Gear GT4 BTCC Comp
Round 5 results
Submitted race times
1. Ford Focus ST170 '03 - Magic Racer – 2:51.474
2. Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe '98 - tricd04 – 2:55.578
3. Renault Clio Renault Sport 2.0 16V '02 - AndersonG22 – 2:56.101
4. Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - BH-21 – 2:56.305
5. Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - korza493 – DNF
6. Mazda 323F '93 - Smallhorses – DNF
For reference - Nissan Primera 20V '01 - Shotamagee – 2:51.771
Start position adjustment.
As a result of starting on pole your race time should be quicker, this is the formula I used to simulate this, start position; (remember this was a reverse grid race, so it’s the inverse of the adjusted finish positions from Race2)
1st + 0.0 (seconds)
2nd + 0.2
3rd + 0.4
4th + 0.6
5th + 0.8
etc.
So these are your adjusted Race3 finish times.
Magic Racer – 2:52.074 (+0.6)
tricd04 – 2:55.778 (+0.2)
BH-21 – 2:56.305 (+0.0)
AndersonG22 – 2:56.501 (+0.4)
Current BTCC points system
position 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Pole FL LAL
points, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1.
* For this competition the Pole, Fastest Lap & Lead A Lap bonus points will not be used.
So the points are as follows.
Race Weekend Final Standings
1st - Magic Racer – 15,15,15 = 45 points
2nd - AndersonG22 – 12,12,8 = 32 points
3rd - tricd04 – 6,6,12 = 24 points
4th - BH-21 – 5,5,10 = 20 points
5th - korza493 – 10,8,0 = 18 points
5th - Smallhorses – 8,10,0 = 18 points
So congratulations must go to Magic Racer and the Ford Focus ST170 '03 for claiming the top step of the podium in rather dominant fashion. Also congratulations to everyone else who took part, thank you for participating, I hope you enjoyed the challenges.
That’s me done with admining for the moment, over to whoever feels like hosting the next event.
Round 5 results
Submitted race times
1. Ford Focus ST170 '03 - Magic Racer – 2:51.474
2. Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 Coupe '98 - tricd04 – 2:55.578
3. Renault Clio Renault Sport 2.0 16V '02 - AndersonG22 – 2:56.101
4. Opel Vectra 3.2 V6 '03 - BH-21 – 2:56.305
5. Alfa Romeo 156 2.5 V6 24V '98 - korza493 – DNF
6. Mazda 323F '93 - Smallhorses – DNF
For reference - Nissan Primera 20V '01 - Shotamagee – 2:51.771
Start position adjustment.
As a result of starting on pole your race time should be quicker, this is the formula I used to simulate this, start position; (remember this was a reverse grid race, so it’s the inverse of the adjusted finish positions from Race2)
1st + 0.0 (seconds)
2nd + 0.2
3rd + 0.4
4th + 0.6
5th + 0.8
etc.
So these are your adjusted Race3 finish times.
Magic Racer – 2:52.074 (+0.6)
tricd04 – 2:55.778 (+0.2)
BH-21 – 2:56.305 (+0.0)
AndersonG22 – 2:56.501 (+0.4)
Current BTCC points system
position 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th Pole FL LAL
points, 15, 12, 10, 8, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1.
* For this competition the Pole, Fastest Lap & Lead A Lap bonus points will not be used.
So the points are as follows.
Race Weekend Final Standings
1st - Magic Racer – 15,15,15 = 45 points
2nd - AndersonG22 – 12,12,8 = 32 points
3rd - tricd04 – 6,6,12 = 24 points
4th - BH-21 – 5,5,10 = 20 points
5th - korza493 – 10,8,0 = 18 points
5th - Smallhorses – 8,10,0 = 18 points
So congratulations must go to Magic Racer and the Ford Focus ST170 '03 for claiming the top step of the podium in rather dominant fashion. Also congratulations to everyone else who took part, thank you for participating, I hope you enjoyed the challenges.
That’s me done with admining for the moment, over to whoever feels like hosting the next event.
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Thank you! It was difficult to get used to the car, but it is nice to see that I managed to win this round (in such a dominant way).
This was one of the best comparisons so far in my opinion, so thank you once again for hosting it.
I have replays of all my runs saved, so anyone who is interested in them can ask me to post them.
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