Traction Control 1.05 patch problem

[Vesartis]

Just letting you people know that I am also experiencing the issues mentioned above. TCS and ASM are both greyed out and cannot be changed during race. Hasn't been a huge problem, but I could see the issue during endurance races.

Is it possible that this has something to do with GT Academy? I am pretty sure it restricts changes to TCS and ASM. If so, it is possible that these restrictions are accidently carried into the main game.

People experiencing this problem should post here and hopefully PD will read about and fix the issue.

 

[rampage917]

Just letting you people know that I am also experiencing the issues mentioned above. TCS and ASM are both greyed out and cannot be changed during race. Hasn't been a huge problem, but I could see the issue during endurance races.

Is it possible that this has something to do with GT Academy? I am pretty sure it restricts changes to TCS and ASM. If so, it is possible that these restrictions are accidently carried into the main game.

People experiencing this problem should post here and hopefully PD will read about and fix the issue.

Good point. That's certainly a possibility.

 

[ChUnKieBaLLz]

Same problem as everyone, TCS and ASM cannot be changed once started race. It's dumb, because when you buy a new car and forget to change TCS from 5 to 0 and enter a race, you have to exit the whole race and can't do it on the fly. Thankfully, TCS can still be adjusted in the race menu before starting.

 

[CSLACR]

Traction control can usually be disabled in real cars by pressing a button. And some cars allow you to adjust the sensitivty. An example would be the E46 M3 Competition Package which allows you to choose between all off, normal and "track mode"

C5 Z06 has quite a few settings like that also.

What I'd like to see is only cars with tcs, can use tcs, only cars with abs, can use abs, perhaps combined with abilities to upgrade/purchase them as modifications.
Also only cars with "on the fly controls" having on the fly controls, and what particular controls they have, but I guess I'm being picky

 

[TheDabbinDave]

I don't know if it's been mentioned or not, didn't see it as I was blinded by all of the bickering. I know from doing the NASCAR event, if I turned ABS OFF, then ASM became grayed out. If I had ABS on at least 1, them I could shut off ASM.

I know ASM is not the issue, but have you checked if ABS is at least on 1?

 

[GrahamTurismo]

I'm having the same issue. I'm not sure about ASM but TCS is definitely grayed out.

Game is doing you a favour people, you do not need those aids, you're killing the meaning of this game with them..

Don't be so ignorant. Nobody is complaining that they can't USE the aids, the problem is not being able to ADJUST them during a race. Most of the time (in my situation) after starting a race I realize I haven't turned it OFF and go to turn it off in the race and can't do it. THAT is causing problems.

 

[T-Fish]

I had the same problem for a very short time. It lasted about 3 or 4 races, then I realized that it was my own doing and you might be shocked at what happened next.


I backed out of the race, fixed what was wrong, and started a new race. What I didn't do was come onto a forum and start whining. Why didn't I do that? Because it wouldn't have gotten me anywhere.

 

[rampage917]

I don't know if it's been mentioned or not, didn't see it as I was blinded by all of the bickering. I know from doing the NASCAR event, if I turned ABS OFF, then ASM became grayed out. If I had ABS on at least 1, them I could shut off ASM.

I know ASM is not the issue, but have you checked if ABS is at least on 1?

Yes. First thing I tried when I noticed The problem was messing with the ABS level. Unfortunately it didn't help.

 

[T-Fish]

I don't know if it's been mentioned or not, didn't see it as I was blinded by all of the bickering. I know from doing the NASCAR event, if I turned ABS OFF, then ASM became grayed out. If I had ABS on at least 1, them I could shut off ASM.

I know ASM is not the issue, but have you checked if ABS is at least on 1?

Bingo! Kind of...


You must have TCS set to 1, at least. If you have it completely shut off when the race starts, you cannot change it during the race. At least that is what I've experienced...

 

[rampage917]

I had the same problem for a very short time. It lasted about 3 or 4 races, then I realized that it was my own doing and you might be shocked at what happened next.


I backed out of the race, fixed what was wrong, and started a new race. What I didn't do was come onto a forum and start whining. Why didn't I do that? Because it wouldn't have gotten me anywhere.

Thanks for blessing us with one of your rare, few posts. it's an honor.
Please come again when you realize exactly what we are discussing here.
We are not here to "whine". We are here to pool our thoughts and find a solution to correct what is clearly a bug.

If you truly do have a solution like you implied in your post, feel free to share it.

 

[T-Fish]

Thanks for blessing us with one of your rare, few posts. it's an honor.
Please come again when you realize exactly what we are discussing here.
We are not here to "whine". We are here to pool our thoughts and find a solution to correct what is clearly a bug.

If you truly do have a solution like you implied in your post, feel free to share it.

I did.

 

[rampage917]

I did.

Sorry, but, both the information you've provided and your "solution" are incorrect and do NOT work. You clearly don't have or understand the specific issue we are discussing here. Your posts have been a waste of time.

 

[MADTJ]

Just letting you people know that I am also experiencing the issues mentioned above. TCS and ASM are both greyed out and cannot be changed during race. Hasn't been a huge problem, but I could see the issue during endurance races.

Is it possible that this has something to do with GT Academy? I am pretty sure it restricts changes to TCS and ASM. If so, it is possible that these restrictions are accidently carried into the main game.

People experiencing this problem should post here and hopefully PD will read about and fix the issue.

Maybe, but if you back up Save Data then start new game, it's work just normal as it should, i can use TCS ASM in new game. so some how 1.05 mess up with save data, i will get X1 first as i'm bspec level 29, so i just grind 24 hour to just get X1 and buy rare car and give to my wife account. when i start new game, i will go to my wife account to get it gift back then i will be able to level up super fast, so same with b-spec.

 

[rampage917]

Maybe, but if you back up Save Data then start new game, it's work just normal as it should, i can use TCS ASM in new game. so some how 1.05 mess up with save data, i will get X1 first as i'm bspec level 29, so i just grind 24 hour to just get X1 and buy rare car and give to my wife account. when i start new game, i will go to my wife account to get it gift back then i will be able to level up super fast, so same with b-spec.

It's not really a game-breaking problem at the moment. Why not wait a little while for PD to, hopefully, patch the game? Personally, I dread the idea of starting over .

 

[TsLeng]

I had the same problem for a very short time. It lasted about 3 or 4 races, then I realized that it was my own doing and you might be shocked at what happened next.


I backed out of the race, fixed what was wrong, and started a new race. What I didn't do was come onto a forum and start whining. Why didn't I do that? Because it wouldn't have gotten me anywhere.

Har har har

Read before you post, think before you post.

Anyways, mine suddenly stopped working (using DFGT) after I went into the settings to adjust the FFB strength. It might have triggered it.

I like to mess around with TCS on the fly especially in online free runs.

 

[rampage917]

we're not the only ones with this issue. I found more people complaining about it here: http://community.us.playstation.com/thread/3390672?tstart=90

I just hope we can bring enough attention to this issue so that PD takes notice and fixes it in their next update. It's not game-breaking, but, a bug is a bug and should be fixed if possible.

 

[ESTORIL]

Great so a patch is needed to fix a patch already...

I feared this would happen, as soon as you give developers the opportunity to fix things via the internet, things start going wrong it's been happening on the PC for years...

Games consoles and developers for consoles now are taking on the LAZY attitude of " WE CAN PATCH IT LATER ".

Before internet and patches it had to be the best it could before release, now who cares just get it out for xmas and get the money no matter if its not finished.

Great Attitude SONY / PD... I always thought you guys were a cut above the rest... seems you are now just as bad as all the others.


I race online in a league and we have changebale weather races, this is where I am now going to be at a disadvantage to a fellow racer who is STILL able to change these settings.

All is fine and dandy in the dry with TCS set to 0 we can race closley.

Then it starts raining, and he is able to turn his TCS up to help with the rain.. where I am not ... this is unfair and I am penalised through no fault of my own.


KNOW IT ALL GT FANBOYS keep your stupid opinions to yourself.

This is a very valid point and PD need to be made aware of it.



And the comments...

THE GAME IS DOING YOU A FAVOUR..... lol

Really .. you think... try racing me in the wet with no tcs, and ill have mine set to 10 ... we'll see if your correct.

Infact come and race at any time in any condition we'll see who needs TCS the most.

Most cars these days do have some form of TCS.. so being in the game is correct



NOW..

This thread was to make people who didnt know aware of it, and also to find out if it was happening to all or a few.

It certainly now appears this isnt just a few poeple, many are experiencing this issue.
Mappng buttons / and messing with config crap isnt a fix, its a work around which might work for a lucky few, but not all, it hasn't worked for me.

A work around is not a fix, a new patch which will resolve this issue fully is a FIX.
I own a DFGT and want to use it to its fullest, I dont not want to map buttons on a ds3 as a workaround thats not what I paid for.

I have been doing crap like that on pc games for years... I do not want to do it on a games console.

IMO

wether the fanboys here like it or not

This is another balls up from PD.. and this game has been a massive balls up from the start.

Now they need to re-evaluate whats going on and make 1 patch that will rectify everything in ONE GO... even if it means we have to wait a few months for it.

Please unless you have something usefull to add to this thread, keep your dissmissive comments to yourself concerning other members.

If you have something valid to add concerning the problem , by all means share it.



On a final note , and something that just occured to me.

What if this patch problem has infact corrupted my game save, and it is not possible to fix via a patch.

The only way to rectify is to re-start from scratch. that would just about be the icing on the cake as far as GOOF UP's go.

 

[alucard0712]

They turn it off because it's almost cheating.For example you can start the race with TCS on (very quick), then turn it off, then turn it on again...I know that I win many races because of this...

 

[ESTORIL]

They turn it off because it's almost cheating.For example you can start the race with TCS on (very quick), then turn it off, then turn it on again...I know that I win many races because of this...

Its not cheating at all..

If it's available for everyone to use , its your choice to use it or not.

If it works out to be faster, then use it...if not.... don't... simple really.

If you win because you chose to use it... well done and smart choice, if you loose because you didnt use it... silly choice and only the driver's decision is to blame.

The problem here ( once again )Is that now some people can use it, and some can't resulting in an unfair advantage particularly in rain conditions. Before it was not an unfair advanatage just a choice the driver made.

And this is not really adding anything valid about the problem is it ????

 

[G.T.Ace]

Its not cheating at all..

If it's available for everyone to use , its your choice to use it or not.

Well, cheats are also available for everyone and they still remain cheats.
I agree about most of what you wrote though, I never use TCS or ASM, but that some can use it and some not, makes it kinda stupid.

 

[ESTORIL]

Well, cheats are also available for everyone and they still remain cheats.
I agree about most of what you wrote though, I never use TCS or ASM, but that some can use it and some not, makes it kinda stupid.

We'll yes there are cheat's and I guess there is a choice with using them or not, personally I never use cheats, I feel it a waste of my own money to buy a game then cheat to win. In my book, people who do use cheat's to win are pretty sad.

There are people that use exploits / cheats in competitons and that annoy's the hell out of me. especially when they are rewarded for being a cheat.

But this was intended to be fully in use for all, from day one and was purposefully added to the game, which makes it not a cheat but a fundemental part of racing in GT.

Doing 4.0000000.000000.0000 miles an hour on GT4 round the old test track in the toyota GT1 was not intended to be part of the game, therefore is considerd a cheat, although you do still have the choice to use it or not.

 

[G.T.Ace]

Yeah, like I said, I agree with you about it.

 

[RC45]

Great so a patch is needed to fix a patch already...

I feared this would happen, as soon as you give developers the opportunity to fix things via the internet, things start going wrong it's been happening on the PC for years...

Games consoles and developers for consoles now are taking on the LAZY attitude of " WE CAN PATCH IT LATER ".

Before internet and patches it had to be the best it could before release, now who cares just get it out for xmas and get the money no matter if its not finished.

Great Attitude SONY / PD... I always thought you guys were a cut above the rest... seems you are now just as bad as all the others.


I race online in a league and we have changebale weather races, this is where I am now going to be at a disadvantage to a fellow racer who is STILL able to change these settings.

All is fine and dandy in the dry with TCS set to 0 we can race closley.

Then it starts raining, and he is able to turn his TCS up to help with the rain.. where I am not ... this is unfair and I am penalised through no fault of my own.


KNOW IT ALL GT FANBOYS keep your stupid opinions to yourself.

This is a very valid point and PD need to be made aware of it.



And the comments...

THE GAME IS DOING YOU A FAVOUR..... lol

Really .. you think... try racing me in the wet with no tcs, and ill have mine set to 10 ... we'll see if your correct.

Infact come and race at any time in any condition we'll see who needs TCS the most.

Most cars these days do have some form of TCS.. so being in the game is correct



NOW..

This thread was to make people who didnt know aware of it, and also to find out if it was happening to all or a few.

It certainly now appears this isnt just a few poeple, many are experiencing this issue.
Mappng buttons / and messing with config crap isnt a fix, its a work around which might work for a lucky few, but not all, it hasn't worked for me.

A work around is not a fix, a new patch which will resolve this issue fully is a FIX.
I own a DFGT and want to use it to its fullest, I dont not want to map buttons on a ds3 as a workaround thats not what I paid for.

I have been doing crap like that on pc games for years... I do not want to do it on a games console.

IMO

wether the fanboys here like it or not

This is another balls up from PD.. and this game has been a massive balls up from the start.

Now they need to re-evaluate whats going on and make 1 patch that will rectify everything in ONE GO... even if it means we have to wait a few months for it.

Please unless you have something usefull to add to this thread, keep your dissmissive comments to yourself concerning other members.

If you have something valid to add concerning the problem , by all means share it.



On a final note , and something that just occured to me.

What if this patch problem has infact corrupted my game save, and it is not possible to fix via a patch.

The only way to rectify is to re-start from scratch. that would just about be the icing on the cake as far as GOOF UP's go.

So between your rage sessions, did you try what I suggested yet? Because I no longer experience the problem you are.

 

[Vanon]

ESTORIL try doing a race w/o the wheel but using the controller, there should be a key that triggers the inrace fine tuning menu that doesn't work using the wheel, see if using the controller you can change tcs/abs levels...

 

[ESTORIL]

So between your rage sessions, did you try what I suggested yet? Because I no longer experience the problem you are.

JEEZUS.... will you bloody read posts... and just leave it alone FFS.

"Mappng buttons / and messing with config crap isnt a fix, its a work around which might work for a lucky few, but not all, it hasn't worked for me."

Which part of that do you not get... really I can draw you a picture if you like...

And BULLY for you that you have sorted it.

Now please really try to understand this... then leave it alone... I have tried everything ... EVERYTHING including mapping buttons to DS3 and back.

IT DOESNT FIX MY PROBLEM...

 

[ESTORIL]

ESTORIL try doing a race w/o the wheel but using the controller, there should be a key that triggers the inrace fine tuning menu that doesn't work using the wheel, see if using the controller you can change tcs/abs levels...

I have already tried this mate, and alas it doesnt work, I have tried everything I can think of and things others have suggested but still no joy.

Its defo the patch, and 99% it has buggerd my game save.

As said earlier if you start a game from fresh it works fine. So it certainyl does appear asthough its soemthing in the save files thats become corrupted.

This is why now im really concerned a patch will not fix it either.

 

[RC45]

JEEZUS.... will you bloody read posts... and just leave it alone FFS.

"Mappng buttons / and messing with config crap isnt a fix, its a work around which might work for a lucky few, but not all, it hasn't worked for me."

Which part of that do you not get... really I can draw you a picture if you like...

So you are you saying you did try to remap the settings, had it resave to your game save and then you remapped them and still your gamesave is corrupt, or are you saying you havent even tried yet?

I ask, because I actually solved this issue using the technique I described. I am just trying to be helpful here.

I have now fixed 2 of my gamesaves from this behaviour using this technique.

 

[ESTORIL]

So you are you saying you did try to remap the settings, had it resave to your game save and then you remapped them and still your gamesave is corrupt, or are you saying you havent even tried yet?

I ask, because I actually solved this issue using the technique I described. I am just trying to be helpful here.

I have now fixed 2 of my gamesaves from this behaviour using this technique.

OH MY GOD... are you for real ??

do you actually read anything ?

if your reading this..

IT DOESNT WORK ....... got it ??

still need a picture ??

OK,...

I mapped to ds3 , saved game.... TCS didnt work

I remapped back to DFGT saved game... TCS didnt work

Is that clear enough for you ????????????????? .... IT DOES NOT WORK !!!! end of

Is this some sort of festive wind up ???

 

[Radic]

They turn it off because it's almost cheating.For example you can start the race with TCS on (very quick), then turn it off, then turn it on again...I know that I win many races because of this...

You can do this in a real race car too, so how is this cheating?

 

[RC45]

OH MY GOD... are you for real ??

do you actually read anything ?

if your reading this..

IT DOESNT WORK ....... got it ??

still need a picture ??

I dont hink you did what I suggested. You map them to something else, such as the DS3. Make sure the settings are saved and quit your game.

This forces a rewrite and repopualtion of the values in the gamesave.

Then start your game again, and map them back to the DFGT buttons and dial and save the values. The game engine has no weffectively rewritten the values as it was a new game, fixing the corruption.

So - again I ask, did you do as instructed or are you just raging for raging sake?

Remember, map to DS3, quit all the way out. Log ina dn check to see if the realtime adjusts work using the DS3, thne go in and remap them to the wheels dial. It will probably work if you do it correctly.

*edit*

I see youedited your post after you posted it.

See, now that was easy when you explained yourself instead of raging like a toddler.

Its a pity it didnt work for you mate... good luck with your problem, hope you get it sorted and have a Merry Christmas.