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Hoping we can talk mike_gt3 and/or praiano into testing them for us.
Tell Praiano we have a salmon for him if he tests for us, that should do it!
Tuner Wars by Harvey Wallbanger (First 2 battles joined 12/6/11)
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Tell Praiano we have a salmon for him if he tests for us, that should do it!
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- comandorando1
Count me in for testing the spiders if you need. I'm always looking for ways to sharpen my driving and reviewing skills. Plus, I want to see if anyone can give this classic the grip of it's namesake.
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Have "Lucrezia", my tune of the Alfa Spider Duetto on share if anyone wants to try her out.
Final tune may be slightly different but she is very close. (Final will probably have a 59/41 weight distribution and 172ft-lb torque vs the 58/42 and 170 of the one on share
)
Final tune may be slightly different but she is very close. (Final will probably have a 59/41 weight distribution and 172ft-lb torque vs the 58/42 and 170 of the one on share
)
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Have "Lucrezia", my tune of the Alfa Spider Duetto on share if anyone wants to try her out.
Final tune may be slightly different but she is very close. (Final will probably have a 59/41 weight distribution and 172ft-lb torque vs the 58/42 and 170 of the one on share
Nice! I like how you chose the same wheels as I did, though mine is in a very traditional red.
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Alright, I have mine on share now. Amazingly, no work had to be done in the conversion from 441PP to 420PP, but it is running a slightly different parts list than one would expect…
And I'm now in a dilemma, Parts A in tune A, or Parts B in tune B…Same tune all round, different power and weight levels…I need some help.
And I'm now in a dilemma, Parts A in tune A, or Parts B in tune B…Same tune all round, different power and weight levels…I need some help.
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Alright i'm getting my first crack at the ps3 this week now. let me know what needs to be tested first.
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Well here you go
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Lurking in the shadows of the Clueless Garage there is a black spider. Known for killing her lover after mating, this dangerous spider would love for you to take her for a drive. Just don't fall in love, or you may end up.... dead. Look out for the :
Black Widow
Based on the Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto '66.
Based on the Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto '66.
In the day time the black widow withdraws into an isolated area of its web, which is covered in its own thick webbing, but in the night, it hangs motionless from the center of its web, belly up, in wait for its prey. When its victim gets entangled in its web, the black widow swiftly envelopes the prey by spinning an entanglement of web around it, and jabs it with its fangs to inject its venom. When the prey ceases to move, the spider uses its cheliceral teeth to mash up the wound it makes on it, infuses it with digestive enzymes, then carries it back to its hiding place before feeding on it.
So, Harvey, Onboy, when you're ready, the Black Widow is waiting on you in its web. Let the battle begin.
Found in the Used Car Dealership
220bhp
420pp
180ft. lb. @3900 RPM of torque
weight 1060 Kg
parts
Auto
Engine Overhaul
Paint - Grigio Grafite
weight Reduction
Stage 1
Window
Engine
Stage 3
ECU
Intake
Manifold
Racing Filter
Exhaust
Racing
Manifold
Catalytic
Turbo
None
Gears
Custom
Drivetrain
Twin Plate
Semi-Racing
Driveshaft
LSD
Suspention
Custom
Tires
Sport Soft (S3)
ABS = 1
everything else off
Tune
Weight Adjustent - 168 @ 50
LSD- 9/12/10
Gearing In this order please
Top Speed - 106
Final - 3.000
1st - 3.281
2nd - 2.416
3rd - 1.865
4th - 1.475
5th - 1.175
Ride Hight - Front: -10 Rear: 0
Spring Rate- Front: 6.0 Rear: 4.0
Extention- Front: 7 Rear: 3
Compression- Front: 3 Rear: 2
Anti-roll Bars- Front: 5 Rear: 1
Camber- Front: 1.5 Rear: 2.0
Toe Angle- Front: -0.14 Rear: 0.08
Brakes- Front: 6 Rear: 4
NOTES -
She may not be as slim as others, but the extra weight is in all the right places (if you know what I mean
) Drive her calm and right, and you will be in love. Throw her around and you may be her dinner. 
*Car is on share* (Feb 22nd)
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Do you dare a bit of a daliance with the seductive "Lucrezia"?
Now on share for those who think they can handle her.
Of course for many this is all they'll be seeing of her...
Now on share for those who think they can handle her.
Of course for many this is all they'll be seeing of her...
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Just finished testing "Black Widow" and now it is time for "Lucrezia" too get her turn. Full write-ups will be posted here late tonight/early tomarrow. Prepair yourselves, things just might get Hunter S. Thompson WEIRD.
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And i don't even need the drugs too do it either!!!
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Unfortunately my 🤬 internet won't let me log on and switch the Spider I have on share for the final version.
They are very close and I've ran them both around the ring to a time within a few 10ths difference, which considering ole Harvey Wallbanger's quote "driving skills" is fairly amazing in and of itself.
They are very close and I've ran them both around the ring to a time within a few 10ths difference, which considering ole Harvey Wallbanger's quote "driving skills" is fairly amazing in and of itself.
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Just finished testing "Black Widow" and now it is time for "Lucrezia" too get her turn. Full write-ups will be posted here late tonight/early tomarrow. Prepair yourselves, things just might get Hunter S. Thompson WEIRD.
I see you servived. I hope you like her
You know how it is when (On)boy's get seduced by dazzling older ladies...it may be a while before we hear from him again!
D
It's on share, I won't be releasing it yet, so you may as well get going.
Release the temptress
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I decided I wanted to try these 420pp dueling Duetto's. I gave both Lucrezia and Black Widow a go on a one lap around the Nordschleife. I used ABS 1 and real grip settings.
Lucrezia was up first and gave a stellar performance. The balance of the chassis was near perfect. The car would only oversteer on throttle on the sharpest of turns. The brakes worked well but you have to be gentle with the slowing from high speeds. Lucrezia managed a respectable 139mph up the back straight and went on to a 8:04.670 lap.
Black widow was up next and the difference between the two cars could be felt immediately. The widow felt heavier with the extra weight but also even more controllable in the mid-high speed corners. Brakes felt great for the car, could apply them later and turn-in just a bit on higher speed corners. Careful throttle control was mandatory on lower speed corners as full throttle in a sharp corner and this spider could bite you! Black Widow managed 143mph up the back straight and crossed the line with a 8:04.755 lap.
Two great cars, two great tunes, only 0.085 seconds apart!
Good job you two! 👍
@Onboy123 Don't worry your Duetto tune is up next
Lucrezia was up first and gave a stellar performance. The balance of the chassis was near perfect. The car would only oversteer on throttle on the sharpest of turns. The brakes worked well but you have to be gentle with the slowing from high speeds. Lucrezia managed a respectable 139mph up the back straight and went on to a 8:04.670 lap.
Black widow was up next and the difference between the two cars could be felt immediately. The widow felt heavier with the extra weight but also even more controllable in the mid-high speed corners. Brakes felt great for the car, could apply them later and turn-in just a bit on higher speed corners. Careful throttle control was mandatory on lower speed corners as full throttle in a sharp corner and this spider could bite you! Black Widow managed 143mph up the back straight and crossed the line with a 8:04.755 lap.
Two great cars, two great tunes, only 0.085 seconds apart!
Good job you two! 👍
@Onboy123 Don't worry your Duetto tune is up next
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Thanks for the reviews and great times Theo.👍👍
Looks like despite their differences these Italian temptresses are set to have our tightest battle yet.
Looks like despite their differences these Italian temptresses are set to have our tightest battle yet.
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Onboy's Duetto finally arrived at the Ring... I almost forgot that I was going to test it as well. But the bright Rosso Alfa paint made me want to give it a go.
From the start it feels very weird driving this car after driving Lucrezia and Black Widow. For me its almost like the best attributes of both of those tunes in one car! This tune can handle all of the the different corners quite well. Oversteer is now present in low and mid speed corners but can be controlled easily with less throttle. The curbs around the Nordschleife are this car's main challange. The rear tires would smoke after a very close pass to one corners apex. Brakes work great and gave predictable results. The car achieved a 141mph on the back straight and finished with an 8:04.247 lap.
Close to perfect for this car and my driving style. Well done Onboy! 👍
From the start it feels very weird driving this car after driving Lucrezia and Black Widow. For me its almost like the best attributes of both of those tunes in one car! This tune can handle all of the the different corners quite well. Oversteer is now present in low and mid speed corners but can be controlled easily with less throttle. The curbs around the Nordschleife are this car's main challange. The rear tires would smoke after a very close pass to one corners apex. Brakes work great and gave predictable results. The car achieved a 141mph on the back straight and finished with an 8:04.247 lap.
Close to perfect for this car and my driving style. Well done Onboy! 👍
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Onboy's Duetto finally arrived at the Ring... I almost forgot that I was going to test it as well. But the bright Rosso Alfa paint made me want to give it a go.
From the start it feels very weird driving this car after driving Lucrezia and Black Widow. For me its almost like the best attributes of both of those tunes in one car! This tune can handle all of the the different corners quite well. Oversteer is now present in low and mid speed corners but can be controlled easily with less throttle. The curbs around the Nordschleife are this car's main challange. The rear tires would smoke after a very close pass to one corners apex. Brakes work great and gave predictable results. The car achieved a 141mph on the back straight and finished with an 8:04.247 lap.
Close to perfect for this car and my driving style. Well done Onboy! 👍
Woot! And the fastest time as well, I thank you, my good sir!
I'll try to fix the oversteer, though I might not bother if it's going to cause more highspeed handling issues. But yea, thanks!
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Wow, reading Theo's lap times just gave me an inferiority complex. I'm thinking I will keep my reviews purely subjective(read substandard) and go for the entertainment value. 
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Wow, reading Theo's lap times just gave me an inferiority complex. I'm thinking I will keep my reviews purely subjective(read substandard) and go for the entertainment value.
Don't worry about laptimes, I've had to deal with being slower by a good few seconds since the day I started reviewing. And that was 5000 odd posts ago, back to when I joined.
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Great times Theo 👍 I hope you enjoyed it and she didn't bite you too badly
Nice job guys. Mind if I have a look at the alfas this evening?
Oh and parrot boy, do you remember our discussion about pandas yesterday?
And which garage is friend Theo associated with?
Go on.
Yup. Krenkme, your argument has been invalidated.
This is how a fair testing happens, you should take notes. Now if you'll excuse me I need to talk to Theo about an unrelated subject.
*walks away mumbling to himself*
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Great times Theo 👍 I hope you enjoyed it and she didn't bite you too badly
This is how a fair testing happens, you should take notes. Now if you'll excuse me I need to talk to Theo about an unrelated subject.
*walks away mumbling to himself*
Same style of tuning, mate, it can't be that different. Apart from the ballast placement the ride height the diff the whole suspension apart from that, there's really nothing between our cars.
Don't be a sore loser, you grumbling old fart.
Go give it a spin, and then you should see why it was 0.5 seconds faster. And better to drive. 
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