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the best part of ANY episode is when the british dude gets so excited about driving the cars he nearly has an orgasm
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YES other top gear lovers!!!!!!!!!!
I made a thread of this and then when i went to go check it it said MOVED, and i was like WTF mate, and now iam here, what a glorious day!
why didn't they let jeremy do a lap on the course with the bugatti?
I made a thread of this and then when i went to go check it it said MOVED, and i was like WTF mate, and now iam here, what a glorious day!
why didn't they let jeremy do a lap on the course with the bugatti?
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- JDA1982
VW just havent let them yet, the car is probably simply too expensive to risk it with the losses they're already making per car and all. Hopefully they will let them run one eventually, or a private owner will offer to let them use theirs like what happened with the Enzo.
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in the show jeremy said that if he let the McLaren F1 get to 100mph he could beat it to 200mph with the bugatti. do you guys think that is possible?
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well put it this way Bugatti wanted to race a Veyron against a Mclaren F1. Mclaren agreed but only if the Veyron had all its driver aids turned off, so that it would be fair. Bugatti declined the offer.fideles1986
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don't get me wrong, but that doesnt answer my questions... is it possible(w/ or w/o drivers aid).
do you guys know a better place than Bearshare (which is what i use ) to download top gear episodes?
do you guys know a better place than Bearshare (which is what i use ) to download top gear episodes?
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- JDA1982
Where did you hear that? because if VW really wanted to race the two I'm sure they'd just hire an McLaren F1 from a supercar club, also the traction control cannot be turned off in the Veyron, it's literally needed in a 1000bhp car and that combined with the 4wd is what gives the Veyron the biggest advantage in a drag race so I do doubt that story. But yes, if you take the acceleration figures from both the Veyron and the F1, the Veyron will go from 0-200mph in less time than the F1 will go from 100-200mph.
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someone who works for mclarenlive4speed
and i havent heard of a supercar club with an F1? plus the f1 doesnt have driving aids so the veyron would then have an advantage
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that's crazy, i would defenetly want to see that. I watched a video where a veyron reached 210mph in less than 8 seconds.
http://movies.autoexpress.co.uk/evo/261005bugatti.mov
very end of the video
http://movies.autoexpress.co.uk/evo/261005bugatti.mov
very end of the video
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- JDA1982
^That's kph not mph, 210kph = almost 130mph and the timing is under 8 seconds but that's as accurate as you'll get becaus you don't know how long the delay was between the car hitting 210kp and the guy saying it, it won't be long but you can't tell how long.
Well not to be an ass but I simply don't believe that story, it makes no sense, what makes the Veyron so fast can't be switched off, and if VW did want to stage a race they'd get hold of an F1. McLaren probably would say no if asked because it's not in their interests to see the F1 get hammered like that, but that wouldn't stop VW from staging a race. It makes no sense for VW to ask McLaren for an F1, it makes no sense for McLaren to say "okay" even if theres a "but" in there, and it makes the least ammount of sense at all for that "but" to be a you have to turn the driving aids off though, because the traction control and 4wd are always on in the Veyron. Whoever told you that is most likely, simply being biased to McLaren to a degree that they have to make things up.
Well not to be an ass but I simply don't believe that story, it makes no sense, what makes the Veyron so fast can't be switched off, and if VW did want to stage a race they'd get hold of an F1. McLaren probably would say no if asked because it's not in their interests to see the F1 get hammered like that, but that wouldn't stop VW from staging a race. It makes no sense for VW to ask McLaren for an F1, it makes no sense for McLaren to say "okay" even if theres a "but" in there, and it makes the least ammount of sense at all for that "but" to be a you have to turn the driving aids off though, because the traction control and 4wd are always on in the Veyron. Whoever told you that is most likely, simply being biased to McLaren to a degree that they have to make things up.
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thats kph not mphfideles1986
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Regarding independent Veyron performance figures, Autocar have run the Veyron with VBOX Racelogic equipment fitted and go the following figures.
0 - 30mph - 1.5 secs
0 - 60mph - 2.8 secs
0 - 100mph - 5.5 secs
After that they ran out of room, the article did also say that these figure may have been handicaped by the poor quality surface that the test was run on.
Even discounting that the figures are quicker than an F1 on the run through to 100mph.
Regards
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0 - 30mph - 1.5 secs
0 - 60mph - 2.8 secs
0 - 100mph - 5.5 secs
After that they ran out of room, the article did also say that these figure may have been handicaped by the poor quality surface that the test was run on.
Even discounting that the figures are quicker than an F1 on the run through to 100mph.
Regards
Scaff
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you do have a point on why they would wanna ask mclaren for a loan of an F1...considering the guy that runs bugatti owns a mclaren f1live4speed
but again bugatti claim the veyron is the ultimate car and wanna compare it against the F1 so why not make it fair,they know around a track without driving aids will mean the F1 would keep up round a track maybe even beat it
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- JDA1982
I don't think the F1 would have a chance on a circuit, the driving aids on the Veyron can't be switched off so anycomparing requiring them to be off is stupid, they're always on. The F1 get's hammered on a track by the Enzo, CCX, MC12, Zonda F and more, all of which I think the Veyron could beat on some tracks too. The fact that the owner of Bugatti owns an F1 simply adds to my point, theres is simply no reason VW would ask McLaren to do something that's entirely against McLarens interests, even if he didn't own one, fining one to use wouldn't be too hard. And there's no reason anyone would ask for any driving aids to be turned off in the Veyron, because as I said, you simply can't turn them off. Thhe McLaren F1 was great round a track for the mid 90's, but compared to todays sueprcars it's still got the straight line perfomance, but not the cornering ability. The F1 is officially a legend, it's came, it conquered, it held out for so long, but like all legends, it's time finally came.
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sorry/ i actually thought it was that fast. lolHoldenhsvgtsr
alot of agression around here.
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yeah but how would you feel if someone came up to you if you had an F1 and said "excuse me but can we borrow your F1 we just wanna give it to some mad racing driver so he can race it against a veyron"live4speed
i know my answer would be something alone the lines of **** off
and its easy to take off the driving aids,just take out the fuse in the fuse box for them,job done
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- JDA1982
Nah, that's not agression, it's just a debate .
No theres plenty of comapnies that hire supercars out, including McLaren F1's, that's not hard to do if you have money. Also people are willing to do things like that, look at that guy lending TopGear his Ferrari Enzo for the Stig to thrash around the track, and even worse, for Jeremy Clarkson to thrash around the track.
And no, the driving aids do not come off, to take them off requires the car to no longer be a production spec car, thus instantly voiding any stock car comparison tests, if the car's no longer production spec you might as well add racing slick tyres. Like I said, there is zero reason for a: VW to ask McLaren for an F1, b: McLaren to even think about accepting and c: to request the driving aids be turned off which voids it as a stock car comparison, thus making it a non-legit comparison where the Veyron would still out accelerate the F1 with ease.
No theres plenty of comapnies that hire supercars out, including McLaren F1's, that's not hard to do if you have money. Also people are willing to do things like that, look at that guy lending TopGear his Ferrari Enzo for the Stig to thrash around the track, and even worse, for Jeremy Clarkson to thrash around the track
.And no, the driving aids do not come off, to take them off requires the car to no longer be a production spec car, thus instantly voiding any stock car comparison tests, if the car's no longer production spec you might as well add racing slick tyres. Like I said, there is zero reason for a: VW to ask McLaren for an F1, b: McLaren to even think about accepting and c: to request the driving aids be turned off which voids it as a stock car comparison, thus making it a non-legit comparison where the Veyron would still out accelerate the F1 with ease.
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yep a friendly debatelive4speedNah, that's not agression, it's just a debate
personaly i dont like the mclaren F1 because i feel they sold out to BMW for an engine(why couldnt they make their own?) and then BMW bragged about supplying the engine to the mclaren F1(again one of the reasons i hate BMW)
where as with the veyron,that has the same key (from what i remember)as you get in a skoda vrs,but you dont hear skoda drivers bragging about that
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look at the headlights on the veyron then the ones on a fabialive4speedThat'd be a funny marketing campaign, we have the same key's as a Veyron, buy a Skoda today
its uncanny!!!
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I watched the last episode last night, I must say it was pretty good. Jackie Stewart teaching James how to drive properly in a race track was pretty exciting, although I always get the impression those things are a bit staged, like the football match. But again, that was pretty exciting too. Specially seeing a Brazilian car on the show for the first time. Too bad it was the VW Fox, I don't like it.
Now we'll have to wait five more weeks for the next Top Gear episode, but at least it's for a good cause.
Now we'll have to wait five more weeks for the next Top Gear episode, but at least it's for a good cause.
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Wow I remember reading about that P2 in evo a few weeks back, I really wish they would sell it.
BTW - the "wastegate noise" Jeremy says it has (which I think is actually compressor surge) sounds exactly like rally cars when they're off the throttle too (understandably, since you can hear the anti-lag on the car as well). Wouldn't a BOV fix this surge, or is this an unavoidable side-effect of some turbo cars?
BTW - the "wastegate noise" Jeremy says it has (which I think is actually compressor surge) sounds exactly like rally cars when they're off the throttle too (understandably, since you can hear the anti-lag on the car as well). Wouldn't a BOV fix this surge, or is this an unavoidable side-effect of some turbo cars?
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