United States Grand Prix

[toler]

Quote:Ferrari cannot hide from the fact that their budget for 2003 was $US302.75 million
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that might be the true eagle but you are ignoring the fact that the €uro is worth more than the $. 1 $ = ca. 1,24 € 👍

 

[Darin]

Do you get the ITV commentators? If not I wouldn't have heard that. If you do I must have missed it when I was getting food.

Yea, I hear them fine. If you don't have them, Un-Mute your TV.

 

[Eagle]

that might be the true eagle but you are ignoring the fact that the €uro is worth more than the $. 1 $ = ca. 1,24 € 👍

Uh, what difference does that make? I wasn't trying to convert facts because those numbers may very well be wrong, I was just reproducing the sources as they appeared. I haven't seen a budget for Toyota whispered anywhere but that supposed magazine article, and it wouldn't be in Euros anyway...

Yea, I hear them fine. If you don't have them, Un-Mute your TV.

o_O I believe he was trying to ask whether you get the ITV telecast or are a Speed watcher, in which case we'd have different commentators, he was just seeking clarification.

 

[Firestarter75]

Something has to be remembered in that incident with Ralf. He came to stop in no-man's land. On any race course being smack dab in the middle of the front stretch is the worst place to end up. You have to bring in vehicle from somewhere mid-course all the way around. When you are working with open wheel cars you have to be very careful where you put the response vehicles in relation to the rest of the circulating cars. Remember you will be of no help if you create another incident, and in the case of a response vehicle versus F1 car you know who will lose. Generally after hard impacts I'll give my drivers 20-30 seconds to move and show me signs of life before making an ambulance now call. After big impacts you have the shock value, the pissed off value and they are taking inventory of themselves. Or in the worst case they were knocked out. It takes time to co-ordinate the vehicle roll, where to release the EV and finally the travel time to actually arrive at the scene. Generally with a car where he was you want to make sure you have damned good control of the field before parking anything.

 

[Solid Lifters]

After watching this race last week, I really felt sorry for Montoya, even though I dislike him very much. I think it was a very terrible thing to let him race so much of the race, only to call him out so close to the end.

Cheers to Sato, since I thought he didn't belong in this year's F1.

Glad to hear Ralphie is OK.

 

[Dirkiyo]

After watching this race last week, I really felt sorry for Montoya, even though I dislike him very much. I think it was a very terrible thing to let him race so much of the race, only to call him out so close to the end.

Cheers to Sato, since I thought he didn't belong in this year's F1.

Glad to hear Ralphie is OK.

indeed, Sato is really spicing it up this year. i still don't understand why they let Juan Pablo drive 53 laps for nothing.
And what did actually happen with Alonso....it looked like the tire didn't really like the rim.

 

[Blake]

Yeah, if they were going to disqualify Montoya do it sdtraight away! Pitty too, he only missed out by like 2 seconds.

 

[Darin]

Montoya was doing good. Went from dead last to second quickly. I think if they let him stay out, he would've won.

 

[Brett]

indeed, Sato is really spicing it up this year. i still don't understand why they let Juan Pablo drive 53 laps for nothing.
And what did actually happen with Alonso....it looked like the tire didn't really like the rim.

Some kind of puncture happened to his tyre. It may have been from some of the debris from the first lap incident, or some thing just on the track that was there to begin with. But the cars, at times, were dragging some of the debris around the track, though I do not think it would be dragged from the first corner to practically the same space. But I do remember some kind of puncture happened and at the speed the Renault was travelling, it would be hard for anyone to get a hold of the car.

 

[Blake]

Well at least it speared into the wall and not into traffic.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Some kind of puncture happened to his tyre. It may have been from some of the debris from the first lap incident, or some thing just on the track that was there to begin with. But the cars, at times, were dragging some of the debris around the track, though I do not think it would be dragged from the first corner to practically the same space. But I do remember some kind of puncture happened and at the speed the Renault was travelling, it would be hard for anyone to get a hold of the car.

Carbon fiber is very sharp when it shatters. No doubt one piece hit the tire and say good-bye.

 

[Darin]

Damn right it is sharp. I got 2 peices of Carbon myself from a wrecked Mazda Kudzu when it wrecked at Daytona. That crap is sharp.

 

[Brett]

Well that is why I mentioned some of the carbon fibre may have been dragged around the track back on of the cars to the spot where Alonso had his puncture.

Could someone please enlight me of what this Mazda Kudzu is? I think I may have heard of it, but am not sure.

 

[Darin]

Its a lower class prototype. Its no faster than a GT3-R and it has a Mazda Engine.

 

[Darin]

 

[Eagle]

There were no real incidents anywhere near the last few turns in the first few laps before Alonso's tyre failure, so it's a bit of a mystery how whatever it was got there, perhaps he picked something up on the lap before that only slowly dug into the tyre and then the huge forces of the banking did the rest, I don't know.

 

[Brett]

There were no real incidents anywhere near the last few turns in the first few laps before Alonso's tyre failure, so it's a bit of a mystery how whatever it was got there, perhaps he picked something up on the lap before that only slowly dug into the tyre and then the huge forces of the banking did the rest, I don't know.

I do not think any one really knows, we can only speculate. But on to what you said, some one, Alonso or any of the other drivers, could have dragged some carbon bits to that part of the track and it just so happened that Alonso hit it. My speculation is as good as yours. It sure would be nice if something would be confirmed about the problem, though I do not think that will ever happen.