Unpopular Motorsport Opinions

[Liquid]

Based on what? That is baseless speculation.

I'd say a fair few drivers on the grid (Rubens, Mika, maybe even Coulthard etc.) would have had a good shot at replicating Villeneuve's success.

You're right, I was probably being unfair to those midfield runners. But I still stand by my point that not any driver could have done what JV did. Certainly not an Inoue, Rosset or Diniz.

The chassis was good, it was that Mechachrome engine that failed the team, Frentzen proved his talent in the mid field teams, wasn't he a championship contender in a Jordan?

The chassis wasn't good. It was Williams' first car in 8 years without any input from Adrian Newey and it showed. Williams were able to stay 3rd in the WCC because Benetton also had a terrible 1998 car and were in fact in a terminal decline from which they would not recover.

Even Jordan had a horrible 1998 until their win in Belgium; they had 0 points at the halfway point in the season. Nobody could come close to McLaren or Ferrari in that season.

Frentzen proved his talent in the mid field teams, wasn't he a championship contender in a Jordan?

He did have one good season at Jordan in 1999, helped by poor late-season form by Ferrari and errors from McLaren, but he did not impress in his time at Williams. Frank Williams wanted him gone after just two races.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Sharkfins make F1 cars look better

 

[Pete05]

Sharkfins make F1 cars look better

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

 

[dingodile_r89]

I like the shark fin. Screw your aesthetics, function over form.

 

[Clark]

Williams will never win another championship.

 

[Liquid]

Williams will never win another championship.

They'll be lucky to win another race. Just the one win in the last 12 seasons?

 

[mustafur]

Williams should of Won every seasons Driver title from 1992 to 1997 If they had the Driver Talent to match Schumacher.

 

[TDZdave]

Williams should of Won every seasons Driver title from 1992 to 1997 If they had traction control to match Schumacher.

*fixed

 

[Jimlaad43]

Williams should of Won every seasons Driver title from 1992 to 1997 If they had the Driver Talent to match Schumacher.

But who could they have had in 1994 and 5? Senna's death ruined 1994 for them, and Damon saved their season with his title challenge. What other driver in the field was close enough to Schumacher in those two years who would have done a better job?

 

[Com Fox]

Supercars is way to obsessive with its Curbs.

I don't really get excited seeing cars jumping constantly through curbs in every street race they have. It isn't special when they focus mostly on that. Hamilton was the worse at it, thank god they stopped going there.

Also making it so you have to use Curbs but also make a "lifeline" rule on how many times you can use the Curbs you have to avoid them is stupid

 

[mustafur]

But who could they have had in 1994 and 5? Senna's death ruined 1994 for them, and Damon saved their season with his title challenge. What other driver in the field was close enough to Schumacher in those two years who would have done a better job?

Mika, but he never got the tools till 1998, Damon was a good driver but he was a tier Below those two.

 

[Liquid]

But who could they have had in 1994 and 5? Senna's death ruined 1994 for them, and Damon saved their season with his title challenge. What other driver in the field was close enough to Schumacher in those two years who would have done a better job?

In addition to Häkkinen, I absolutely maintain that both Berger and Alesi, had they been given the right machinery and/or #1 driver status, could have won titles. Stick one of those three in the Williams, give them #1 treatment, and you'd have a Williams win in 1994/95.

Never mind the B194's "incredible grip"...

 

[mustafur]

In addition to Häkkinen, I absolutely maintain that both Berger and Alesi, had they been given the right machinery and/or #1 driver status, could have won titles. Stick one of those three in the Williams, give them #1 treatment, and you'd have a Williams win in 1994/95.

Never mind the B194's "incredible grip"...

Alesi I could see but Berger? Damon would probably be at his level if not better, then again that season he had with Senna in the Mclaren and he basically matched him all season so who knows.

 

[Simmpa]

Williams will never win another championship.

Who knows? They dominated in 1992 and 1993 because they figured out how to exploit computers to the maximum, maybe some new regulations in the future will make them have the same advantage?

 

[Liquid]

Who knows? They dominated in 1992 and 1993 because they figured out how to exploit computers to the maximum, maybe some new regulations in the future will make them have the same advantage?

At a time (1990, 1991) when they weren't too far behind McLaren anyway.

They drew in a few people with very brief flashes of brilliance in 2014 but have regressed since then. It would take a Herculean effort for them to get back to being a consistent, race-winning, title-challenging team.

For the last 3 years it's been follow-the-rabbit with nary any team able to really challenge Mercedes-Benz in any way.

 

[Liquid]

It's wrong and stupid to call the two most famous German racetracks Hockenheim and Nürburgring.

Why is Hockenheim special? Norisring, Salzburgring, Sachsenring, Österreichring and Schottenring all retain their -ring syllable.

It's either Hockenheim and Nürburg or it's Hockenheimring and Nürburgring.

The latter obviously being correct.

 

[Com Fox]

It's wrong and stupid to call the two most famous German racetracks Hockenheim and Nürburgring.

Why is Hockenheim special? Norisring, Salzburgring, Sachsenring, Österreichring and Schottenring all retain their -ring syllable.

It's either Hockenheim and Nürburg or it's Hockenheimring and Nürburgring.

The latter obviously being correct.

...but ...but ...my F1 goes there.

Well not anymore but still.

 

[Jimlaad43]

...but ...but ...my F1 goes there.

Well not anymore but still.

You've missed the point of his comment

 

[Com Fox]

You've missed the point of his comment

Had to re-read it 5 times to understand , granted he did write Nurburgring on his statement instead of Nurburg.

 

[Jimlaad43]

It's probably due to the number of syllables, Noris, Nurburg, Schotten and Salzburg are 2 syllables. Whereas Oesterriech and Hockenheim are 3 each. As Austria is famous for more than a race track, and is significantly larger, then it makes sense to differentiate the track and the country. Hockenheim is a small town, where the circuit is the main thing it's famous for, so the laziness comes in.

I'd also say Alliteration takes place. Oest-err-reich-ring has two r- syllables in a row, so it does flow. Hock-en-heim-ring has two H's and an en that sounds similar to start, but the r- sounds different. Hock-en-heim flows, but the added -ring bit is a bit of a mouthful.

 

[Liquid]

You're right, it is laziness.

Hockenheim is the name of the town, Hockenheimring is the name of the racetrack.
Nürburg is the name of the town, Nürburgring is the name of the racetrack.

It's not like English where Silverstone Circuit is made up of two words. The German language loves compound nouns where things all flow together as one like a Welsh toponym.

 

[TDZdave]

Moving on....

After watching the ALMS race of a thousand years and having actually gone to the event myself as a lad, I think the event or one similar needs to be brought back to the Adelaide street circuit,

 

[Com Fox]

Moving on....

After watching the ALMS race of a thousand years and having actually gone to the event myself as a lad, I think the event or one similar needs to be brought back to the Adelaide street circuit,

YES Please.

I could see like a 6 Hour event being held there called "The Race to End [Insert Year]" and promoted as the final race ever in the year.

 

[TheCracker]

Endurance racing is dull to watch on TV.

Unless you have great commentary and production values. The Eurosport Le Mans coverage has spoiled me in this regard.

Tried watching some of the Sebring race over the weekend. Couldn't work out what was going on from the commentary team and the race footage was so badly edited.

 

[Eh Team]

Endurance racing is dull to watch on TV.

Unless you have great commentary and production values. The Eurosport Le Mans coverage has spoiled me in this regard.

Tried watching some of the Sebring race over the weekend. Couldn't work out what was going on from the commentary team and the race footage was so badly edited.

Well, it was Fox camera work so it was pretty crap but watching the IMSA TV livestream saved it, I don't think I could have watched more than an hour of Fox commentary + commercials.

 

[Suzumiya]

Endurance racing is dull to watch on TV.

Unless you have great commentary and production values. The Eurosport Le Mans coverage has spoiled me in this regard.

Tried watching some of the Sebring race over the weekend. Couldn't work out what was going on from the commentary team and the race footage was so badly edited.

Anything is dull with the wrong broadcasting crew. Which is easy because no one really cares about broadcasting motorsport.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Verstappen shouldn't have driven for Red Bull last year.

 

[Liquid]

Verstappen shouldn't have driven for Red Bull last year.

We know.

Verstappen shouldn't have been placed in a Red Bull.

 

[TheCracker]

Anything is dull with the wrong broadcasting crew. Which is easy because no one really cares about broadcasting motorsport.

With a 'sprint' race it doesn't matter as much. It's generally obvious whose leading etc. I've watched races with commentary in a language I don't speak - or with no sound at all, and still been able to follow a race. But with an enduro race where 2nd place could be a lap and a half down on the leader - but a pit stop ahead, you'd never know. It doesn't help either when you've got a massive field of competitors and the screen graphics use abrieviations and/or a ticker tape style display.

MotorsTV care about broadcasting Motorsport, or at least you'd think they would, as that's all they do. But that's who attempted to broadcast Sebring over the weekend and failed miserably.

 

[twitcher]

You're right, it is laziness.

Hockenheim is the name of the town, Hockenheimring is the name of the racetrack.
Nürburg is the name of the town, Nürburgring is the name of the racetrack.

It's not like English where Silverstone Circuit is made up of two words. The German language loves compound nouns where things all flow together as one like a Welsh toponym.

Laziness? You sound like an old guy in a rocking chair, "this new generation is so lazy, back in my day, we said Hockenheimring and Nurburgring, not Hockeneheim and The 'Ring...lazy kids!!"

It's not any different than what we do in English, changing St Petersburg to "St Pete", or Watkins Glen into "The Glen"...even Talladega, many people just refer to it as "Dega". It's how language evolves, unnecessary syllables tend to not last.