VCRC *Jaguar E-TYPE Coupe ‘61 @ Monte Carlo* **congrats to dsgerbc!!**

It's not that big of a deal. You make the rules so I modified my lines accordingly (from my practice session) through that chicane. I'm sorry if you thought I was trying to influence you, I apologize, my wording could have been far more appropriate.

I was surprised at the fact that it was deemed illegal because I was under the impression that races under the VCRC banner used the "2 wheels must be on track" and "curbs are track" ruleset that is common on GTplanet.

No, I didn't think you were trying to influence anyone, I was actually confused.
I mean genuinely this whole thing has confused me.

I didn't mean "I'm surprised" in that way... YOu know what I mean the tone was apparently inferred.
I meant genuinely confused & surprised. Literally.
I was confused. Not "shocked and appalled" surprised. :lol:

Because yeah, the GTP OLR Rules don't specify things as specifically as what goes on at Deep Forest concrete or the chicanes.

I see 2 wheels on the track and curbs are track... yes obviously. But there are quite a few places where that's not normal track.
If that makes sense?

I've never seen you take a crazy line through any of the suspicious places I know of SagarisGTB, just an FYI. And I think we did one race on Deep Forest and you asked specifically about the concrete.

I tend not to police the concrete at Deep Forest. Though I do think it's kind of cheap. Just not worth fussing about.

Though I would like to say come up with a list of those dodgy places and just have a ruleset for them pre-decided.
I suggested this a couple of months ago, and it didn't really go over too well.
But at the time nobody else was volunteering to steward besides me & cc570, so I think now that we've got a proper stewards board, with other people taking the heat of dealing with these issues we CAN come up with a definitive answer for those dodgy places on tracks that get people doing hinky things or get people's dander up, or make people worry about what's okay or not.

I guess this chicane at Monte Carlo would be one of them.

The other places I see is that well there's the run-offs at Fuji.
You would know about these, like TomBrady said, they're "shortcuts" even though you go wide.
If you've ever been in a dirty pub lobby with boost on high, you'll know exactly what I mean. :lol: :lol:

Anyway, the race I cited was a GTPlanet forum race, but not a WRS race.
I have no idea if that was allowed in that race or not. (ie: if it was an allowed movement, or just an ignored one.)

But I use it as an example that I wouldn't want to be in a race where that was allowed, because I think it's kooky. And I know most of my regular racing pals in the VCRC would think that's outrageous.

I roll my eyes about the Deep Forest concrete. But at least that's attached to the track and the variation seems a little less clear. The run-offs at Fuji have grass in between them!!! :lol: :lol:
PLUS, even the in-game penalty system penalized the run-offs on fuji.
(Not so about the concretes at Deep Forest.)

There's a difference for those who don't know. Between GTPlanet and the clubs within GTPlanet.
VCRC races, for example, it's a club that operates under GTPlanet.
None of our races are FORCED to use the GTP OLR Rules.
BUT that's what attracts a lot of people to races at this forum as many use the same GTP OLR Rules.

Now that said, at some point in the future, there could be a "Dirty NASCAR Vintage Muscle Car Race"... That's a possibility. I'm not planning one, but I'm just saying in theory someone could do that in the VCRC, and as long as it's made clear up front that it's a dirty race, and the rules, or lack of rules, would be specified.
In other words, so everyone's on the same page. Because yes, that is the important part. That everyone's following the same protocol in racing. Otherwise it's confusion and not very fun.
And the point of stewarding is so that we're all on the same page, and of course, having fun. (I like having fun.)

ANd as such, one should always check the OP for the "race procedure". Just a reminder.

Edit: the daytona bus stop is another weird one.
(just in case anyone's taking notes. lol)

Edit2: I bet there's a few on Spa, but I haven't raced it enough yet to find out. :lol:
 
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Some pictures. I did my best :crazy:

They're cool. 👍

I think that all the cars looked pretty stately. Even the colour shift was nowhere what I'd imagined when people were commenting. lol lol :lol:

I'm late doing everything today, btw, but I did snap some photomodes.
I just haven't even gotten a chance to input the results yet. Working on that now.
 
FYI, I've never raced on Deep Forest with VCRC; you must be mistaken about that.

It's no big deal. I think we can learn from this and make sure that questionable "track areas" are ruled upon early in the formation of future events. I doubt such situations would arise very often, as most tracks are straightforward; but places, such as those you outlined above, might need clarity. The general GTP OLR aren't very specific in regards to such cases.

On another note, during the race today I was quite shocked and slightly embarrassed when I came around to lap... myself. I'm not sure exactly how it happened (something to do with a daddy car and a mommy car I'm sure), but there was two of me out there:
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FYI, I've never raced on Deep Forest with VCRC; you must be mistaken about that.
:eek: :scared:
Perhaps I have you confused with someone. :guilty:
Well hopefully I'm not confusing you with the driver who never takes crazy lines. :lol:
(Just that you know I remember when there's people who ask these questions. Because I figure they're paying attention. Like jackargent said, johnboy was right to bring it up if there was any confusion.)
It's no big deal. I think we can learn from this and make sure that questionable "track areas" are ruled upon early in the formation of future events. I doubt such situations would arise very often, as most tracks are straightforward;

Thankfully yes!!!
Though once in awhile someone comes up with something new to drive me crazy with... LOL
I've found that some people find crazy lines on Mt. Aso tracks that would give you a shortcut penalty with penalties on... and with good reason because you can in theory make a dirty off road pass in certain spots by making a crazy line.
(I actually spent some time watching some people do Wishbone prior to the races to see if there was any hinky areas. As it turned out that track was pretty free of any weird spots.)
Guess it's just the nature of the beast. Or just human nature. If there's a loophole, eventually someone will find it.
A blessing... and a curse for humanity.

On another note, during the race today I was quite shocked and slightly embarrassed when I came around to lap... myself. I'm not sure exactly how it happened (something to do with a daddy car and a mommy car I'm sure), but there was two of me out there:
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

You know I'm glad you posted this, because I was just looking at my photomodes, trying to figure out what colour your car was, and thinking - geez, looks like I didn't take any photos of Sagaris...
LOL

Well, at the very least, jackargent cannot have any bones to pick about YOUR colour choice. heeheehee
 
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  1. dsgerbc / dsgerbc / Opalescent Bronze Metallic
  2. SagarisGTB / sagarismic / Opalescent Silver Blue Metallic
  3. Johnnypenso / Johnnypenso / purple & gold
  4. TomBrady / HugoStiglitz_420 / GT Polarized 1-P & GT Japanese 05-W
  5. Zorrin / DitQuois / Japanrot
  6. gazelle68 / gazelle68 / cream & factory stock
  7. CC570 / CC570 / British Racing Green
  8. jackargent / jackargent / Opalescent Silver Blue Metallic
  9. watermelonpunch / wat3rm370n / Verde Boreale & silver BBS
 

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