What's your real life benchmark?

My real life benchmark for GT5 has to be the EVO 8. I used to own one and loved every mile of driving the car. it never gave me any problems at all, even after a re-flash an HKS cat-back exhaust, and an AEM CAI. That little bullet would spank cars left and right and it truly pained me when i sold it, the real kicker is that a month later the idiot i sold it too completley trashed the car.

Regardless though in Gt4:Pro i felt that the understeer is way to prevalent it drives like it was FWD and does not reflect the true handling dynamic of the car. The steering too was almost teleptathic, it requieres very little to change lanes or to steer into a parking space, it is something i truly miss in my current car (330i).

Those new Z's on the other hand have had me drooling for a while now, i somehow have a strange feeling that that will be my next "benchmark" :P
 
My real life benchmark for GT5 has to be the EVO 8. I used to own one and loved every mile of driving the car. it never gave me any problems at all, even after a re-flash an HKS cat-back exhaust, and an AEM CAI. That little bullet would spank cars left and right and it truly pained me when i sold it, the real kicker is that a month later the idiot i sold it too completley trashed the car.

this very thing happened in the case of when i sold my '93 EG8. just two days after i sold the car the guy BLEW UP the tranny!
 
My real life benchmark for GT5 has to be the EVO 8. I used to own one and loved every mile of driving the car. it never gave me any problems at all, even after a re-flash an HKS cat-back exhaust, and an AEM CAI. That little bullet would spank cars left and right and it truly pained me when i sold it, the real kicker is that a month later the idiot i sold it too completley trashed the car.

I agree, I've only had mine for a year but so far it has been faultless in terms of reliability. It can comfortably fit me & 4 tall mates, the handling is razor sharp and is loads of fun even in the wet, the power & torque from the engine is just awesome, it’s very safe and it drinks less fuel than some less powerful 2wd cars.

Regardless though in Gt4:Pro i felt that the understeer is way to prevalent it drives like it was FWD and does not reflect the true handling dynamic of the car. The steering too was almost teleptathic, it requieres very little to change lanes or to steer into a parking space, it is something i truly miss in my current car (330i).

Are you talking about GT4 or GT5P? (I know its an Evo 9 in GT5P but it basically the same thing)
 
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I know its a long shot but I am hoping the 04-08 Acura TL A-spec makes it in the game. That would be my benchmark as its my daily driver. My first car was a 96 civic that I supercharged along with other performance mods. It is in most games so this is the current benchmark I use. In Forza 2 I could spec the civic almost identical to how I had mine. But it didn't feel close to real.
 
mine is an 86 prelude Si but i doubt that car will be in the game. i have owned an EK hatch, CRX and 93 Civic Coupe in the past so a couple of those can be my benchmark if need be.

im so hoping the 2nd gen prelude is in the game mainly because of how well the car handles at stock settings.
 
Ok here goes for my list...

Off track I started in a Mk2 Vauxhall Astra Olympic although the chassis was about to snap and I put adjustable shocks and disc brakes on the back so I cant really use that for anything. Next it was a Mk2 Vauxhall Nova, great little car easy to throw around and always felt quicker than it was through corners due to the body roll of a boat!!
Then I had a 94 Honda Civic which was a great fun little car, really stuck through the corners even on snowy roads through the alps! I then moved on to a Ford Focus 1.5 LX due to the Civic being nicked and crashed 1/4 mile away! (B*stards)

Then having a driving ban curtailed my ownership for a while but I have just bought myself a little 77 MG Midget that I am in the process of rebuilding and eventually I will get it track ready for some fun! I have also driven a diesel Mondeo Giah, Peugeot 306, BMW 328 Ci and an X5 along with various trucks and vans.

On track is similar to Stotty I think he went to the Palmer sport track day. Chaterham 7, Clio cup racer, 350Z, 911 GT3 RS, Formula Palmer Audi and the JP2 which I always say is like a baby Le mans car o my mate who don't know much about cars!

GT5 is the most realistic sim I have ever driven apart from the F1 sims at Silverstone for GP weekend but only getting 3 laps you cant really do a fair comparison.

I have probably driven more that I cant remember and I have been driven around in a Lambo Spyder which was great fun, unfortunately I wasn't allowed to drive it though! I just cant wait to get the midget on the road and then on the track. Who knows maybe you'll see me out there one day crashing into the barrier at copse!!!

Well thats my little list for you.

I almost forgot the RX8 and MX5 at the motor show and numerous different karts at many tracks but mainly Whilton Mill.
 
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This has been a very interesting thread to read indeed. Some real world experience covering the widest possible spectrum of vehicles. Nice to see no one’s claimed to have floored a Veyron, yet!

From a racing point of view, I was lucky enough to do a lot of karting in the 90’s eventually doing a teamed four hour endurance race at Spa in 2000. On the kart circuit. I also partook in a few classic car rallies in the late 80’s.

Here’s a list of some of the cars I’ve had the pleasure and in some cases, the pain in owning, or have driven 100 mile plus:

’52 MG TD
’54 MG TF
’71 Triumph GT6 (Great in the dry, frightening in the wet).
’73 Fiat 127 (1st car owned, hoot to drive until it succumbed to terminal rust!).
’74 Opel Manta Brooklands Turbo (Should have been used for the dictionary definition of laaaaag…).
'75 BMW 2002
’77 Ford Capri 1.6GL
’79 Triumph Spitfire 1500 (Tres go-karty!).
’79 Austin Allegro (Like driving a sponge!).
’79 Austin Mini 1275GT (Some great memories of this. Had a sense of occasion even at standstill).
’80 Triumph TR7
’81 Golf GTi (Automotive genius on a well known twisty road).
’81 Lotus Eclat (Threw a con-rod through the bottom of its sump on the way back from purchasing it. Took three months, a recon engine and a Porsche engineer to get the old girl back on the road!).
’82 BMW 320i Baur convertible
’82 Ford Capri 2.0S
’83 Audi 90 Quattro (Non wide bodied saloon, one of the best ‘sleepers’ I’ve owned).
’84 Ford XR3i
’85 Vauxhall Astra GTE Mattig Extreme (2 meter wide bodied, 275/45 front and 345/45 rear tired 220bhp’d torque steering front tire chewing beast. As mad and bad as it looked).
’85 Ford Capri 2.8 Injection Special
’87 Mazda 626LX
’87 BMW 325i
’88 Jaguar XJS FHC 5.3 V12 HE (Rubbish mpg, uber waft potential. Got 155mph on the clock on a huge straight south of Rouen on the way to Le Mans many moons ago. Those were the days…).
’88 Fiat Uno 1.3 60S
’90 Fiat Uno 1.4i Turbo (The veritable pocket rocket).
’91 Ford Scorpio Cosworth 24v
’92 Ford Rouse 304R Sierra Sapphire Cosworth (At the time, this 260Bhp 4x4 was the utter dogs dangles. You could slide INTO roundabouts under braking and downshift, as well as a controlled prod to over steer on the way out with all four wheels battling for grip! Those were the days too…).
’99 Smart Passion (55Bhp of pure fun. Best city car, by far).
’99 Mercedes Benz E320Cdi Estate (Effortless mile cruncher).
’00 Chrysler 300M (Pointless traction on/off button, nice enough on a long trip though).
’00 Saab 95 Aero Estate (Current car, ground up restoration and now in immaculate condition, Hirsch sprung, chipped to 280Bhp, tad torque steery but best sleeper ever owned).
’04 Audi A4 2.0 Avant ProLine
’05 Mercedes Benz A200Cdi (The excitement of 7 gears wears off as soon as you have to use them…)
’09 BMW 320i M Sport Touring (My dad’s new weapon of choice, with the mad start/stop technology which takes a while to get used to).

So, to answer the OP, uhm, difficult to say. Main reason is it’s not possible to weigh real life driving against the GT series as no matter what’s said, the physical assault on your body, whether that's screaming around a track or pelting down a long straight pushing the speedo to its limit, cannot be replicated. After 23 years of driving, I’m reasonably confident imparting that nugget to our younger brethren.

At this stage I'd also strongly advocate to keeping within the speed limits prescribed by your local law enforcement boys and girls, and keep the thrashing to the track...

However, from the point of view of sheer unadulterated enjoyment, I know we won’t be disappointed when we get our grubby paws on GT5 and I’ll be happy if they can get an ’81 VW Golf Gti to rekindle some of those white knuckle rides of yesteryear.

Would be just as happy if they mysteriously opted to include the Rouse, but I'm not holding my breath that it's made the cut.

Would be even happier if they included my lovely old Jag, but if they’ve nailed the physics, it won't be much fun around the ‘Ring!
 
Quite the collection there NK! :embarrassed: That I've driven a good chunk in...

'86 and '88 Chevrolet Nova 5 speeds (Corolla FX-16 AE82 body style, handled but no striaghtline force.)
'87 Oldsmobile Delta 88 (Hardly worth the mention)
'95 Hyundai Scoupe 5 speed (By far the best handling, 943kg's and 100 horse.)
'96 Hyundai Accent 5 speed (About same as Scoupe, but less buttoned down.)

And my current baby, the Oldsmobrick.

1991 Oldsmobile Cutlass Calais Quad 442 2.3 H.O. 5-speed (About 205 horse, 1270 kgs/2800 lbs) Closest thing in game would prolly be a Vtec Prelude or V6 Tiburon..


Then there's a smattering of V6 cars like Mustangs, Camaros, the occasional Civic or Eclipse/Talon/other rice bomb but none I've owned.



Cheers,
Jetboy
 
Owned:
98 Ford Fiesta 1.3
91 Mazda MX-5 1.6

Driven:
98 Ford Fiesta 1.25
99 Ford Fiesta 1.4
03 Ford Ka
07 Mitsubishi Outlander V6
07 Chrysler PT Cruiser
94 BMW 316i Compact
98 BMW 318ti Compact
97 BMW 316i Compact
98 Honda Civic 1.5
91 Mazda Eunos Roadster
97 Honda Civic 1.4
06 Toyota Prado 4.0 V6
00 Alfa Romeo 146 1.8
95 Mitsubishi FTO GR V6
07 Volkswagen Transporter 1.9 TDI
92 Honda Del Sol 1.5 VXi
99 SEAT Cordoba 1.9 TDI

Driven on track:
Mazda Eunos Roadster MaX5 cup car (x2)
MINI Cooper Works Challenge car (x2)
Mazda 2 1.5 Sport
Mazda MX-5 NC

I make that four different cars which have had exact variants in GT games before (Eunos/MX5, Ka, PT Cruiser and FTO GR) and a few others with similar variants (BMW Compacts, Del Sol, Civic). However, the best benchmarks are the cars which I've driven on track, since these are the ones I've driven closest to (and over) their limits, and the MINI and Eunos were track prepared.

And of course my current MX-5 will be a good benchmark, as I'll undoubtably be driving that a lot more.
 
Owned

Peugeot 306 1.4

Driven

Mazda Mx-5 (Oulton park infield drift track)
Ford focus C-max
Nissan 200sx (Oulton park infield drift track)
BMW330i (Oulton park infield drift track)
Fiat Seicento
VW Scirroco 2.0 (Oulton park main circuit)
Lotus Exige S (Oulton park main circuit)
Subaru Impreza WRX Sti (Elvington airstrip)
Mitsubushi Evo 8 (Drive Me, Stafford)
Peugeot 106 (Drive me, Stafford)

Most of the driven list comprises of experience days. If anyone wants to call me out on it, please do so by PM.
 
Owned :

Renault Clio 1.5 Dci

Driven

Fiat G_Punto Mjet (tuned at 100hp) -- Nordschleife 2008
Peugeot 207 HDi -- Nordschleife 2009
Suzuki Swift (110HP x 900kg ) --- NordSchleife 2009
Honda Civic 1.6 125HP
Opel Corsa 1.2 (d-mobile)
Fiat seicento 1.1 (m-mobile)
 
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Well the car I own is a mk5 Vw gti so I am sure I will get to mess around with is virtual counter part on the big screen, so I am excited about that.

Other noteworthy cars i have driven over the past 2 or so years... many of which were modified (i keep a list of every car i have driven lol...over 90 :))
2008 Ferrari 430 Scuderia (i have a right up some were on gtp from last year)
2005 Mitsubishi evo
2006 Subaru sti
2009 Subaru sti
2004 Dodge Srt-4
1993 bmw 325i
numerous mk2-mk5 Vw gti's/gli's/glx's (vr's, 1.8t's, 16v's, 2.0t's)
2005 Ford mustang gt
1995 Mitsubishi 3000gt (non vr4)
1998 Chevrolet Camaro z28 conv. automatic :(
1978 Vw super beetle conv.
2006 Chevrolet corvette c6
1994 Honda civic h2b swap... ran high 12s

i would love to take them all out again with out worrying about getting pulled over or wrecking peoples cars.
 
I have a 1971 Nissan/Datsun 510, and the 1969 was in, which is relatively close. The problem with it is that the 1969 is quite a bit different than the 1970+. I have the feeling that the 69 would have a similar feel tho...
 
I drive a MX-5 (NB, 1.9), never experienced driving at the limit. But I've went as fast as 200 km/h (124 mph), which is just below the specified Vmax. An accordingly adjusted car in GT4 is clearly faster and the lift-off oversteer is shocking! Sound is pretty accurate.
 
I own a 93 pulsar gti.love this car.the cars i driven before:clio V6 great car.bit to much oversteer :D but fun to drive.Lada 2107 170hp(on a rally patrice track.great experience).kinda russian hachi.porsche 944 turbo,punto turbo 150hp.opel calibra 2.0 16v,lancer evo 2,3.volvo s40,civic ek9 hatch,bmw z3,ford scorpio 3.0,transit,transporter,bobcat xD
 
I drive a 2007 Mazda 6 2.5 liter 4 BANGER! I have driven it in GT5P.

Yes, it is as slow in real life as it is in the game :lol: But my car is governed to 120mph, and it goes faster in the game. Also, I have a 5 speed automatic gearbox, and I think it would be nice to have a 5 speed instead of the mandatory 6 speed shifter.
 
driven hard:
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drifted:
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both all in stock form with no tuning whatsoever
 
Never driven anything really special. Only my dad's 5L VL Calais, but other than that nothing.

If I had the opportunity to drive a 67- 69 SS Camaro, 70 SS Chevelle, 69 GTO Judge, or 67 GT500 I think that would just about fill my life long dream.
 
if GT5 has the silverstone track i'll compare it to the bmw m3 csl which i haven't driven personally but it was a track day and my brother took me around a few times. it was timed aswell. guna see if i can get a better time than he did in GT5
 
If GT5 has the Silverstone track I'll compare it to the BMW M3 CSL which I haven't driven personally but it was a track day and my brother took me around a few times. It was timed as well. Going to see if I can get a better time than he did in GT5

You managed to find the Caps Lock key for GT5, next time try it for the rest of your post as well, the AUP you agreed to follow when you joined does ask that you do.


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Autocross
- Honda Civic Si EG6 Hatchback, full suspension setup and some minor engine modifications ( 2 years )
- Infinity G20 ( Nissan Primera ), full suspension setup and some minor engine modifications ( 1 year )
- Mitsubushi Evolution 8 ( a few times )
- Mazda MX-5 ( one time )
- Mazda RX8 ( one time )
- MazdaSpeed 6 ( one time )

I think GT got the Evo pretty close, but not so much the Honda EG6.
I have my honda just right for autoX (with lift oversteer) it's great, I could never set it up right on GT4.
 
Never tried autocross.

Cars ive owned:

98 Civic - a few bolt-ons (intake, straight piping, headers),
coilovers, & light rims - owned for a year - death by natural cause

Evo 8 - mostly stock, adjustable coils and a reflash - owned
for 11 months - murdered

BMW 325i - all stock - 1 year, 5 months - just cruising and
will stay that way.

As for my benchmark, i dont really know how to calculate that...
when i had the civic and the Evo, i was always at my local mountain
road. I still have those corners embedded in my memory if i ever go
back. I lost my civic there (Tire malfunction).

Driven:

Maserati Gran Turismo - approx. 5 minutes at a top speed of 45 mph
Mazdaspeed 3 07'
BMW M3 e92
Chevorlet Tahoe - Designated Driver for all my drunk friends :lol:
 
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Update, A4 quatro sport has gone it's merry way and a BMW 330 motorsport now ocupies it's space on the drive, thought with the snow coming it was a good idea to dump the 4WD audi in favour of the RWD BMW........LOL
 
Update, A4 quatro sport has gone it's merry way and a BMW 330 motorsport now ocupies it's space on the drive, thought with the snow coming it was a good idea to dump the 4WD audi in favour of the RWD BMW........LOL

I can tell you from my experience this year that Snow + Steep Hill + 3-series = backwards.

Got me a few days off work, not being able to get out of my street.

:)


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