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[Lock2Lock]

Btw, was this site down for everyone yesterday or just me?

No it was shortly after 4:30am CST. It was offline for hours.

Someone told me it was because of the hurricane and where the GTP headquarters are located on the east coast. Not sure on that but that's what I heard

 

[phil_75]

Cheers!

Someone with Twitter tell Kaz to make a 550PP Ring seasonal, now that would be interesting!

 

[rosckolove]

Cheers!

Someone with Twitter tell Kaz to make a 550PP Ring seasonal, now that would be interesting!

I would enter any ring seasonal that showed up. I actually stopped racing 550pp a while ago though. Got into the faster stuff again.

The GTP datacenters are in NYC. Hurricane was the reason they lost power, generators kept running out of fuel after that. I guess they must have got full time power back.

And I use a DS3. Just practice.

 

[phil_75]

Just doing the 480PP SKYLINE seasonal, at No.22 as of now!

So glad this weeks 2 TTs don't involve the 2J, nothing more dis heartening than seeing a nice TT to have a go at on a Thursday then seeing the leaderboard full of the washer on wheels!

 

[Small_Fryz]

We all thought 27's were impossible just 2 days ago and now Mike has done it! (Not online with Standing start but would you now say thats impossible?

Yes.

Standing start + Online.

One does not simply find 2-3 seconds at this level.

 

[phil_75]

Yes.

Standing start + Online.

One does not simply find 2-3 seconds at this level.

Mike says it would only add 1 - 1.5 secs!
Like i said, he did that in 40mins, would you not think if he practiced that same car/track combo for months he would achieve it?

 

[mike_gt3]

Mike says it would only add 1 - 1.5 secs!
Like i said, he did that in 40mins, would you not think if he practiced that same car/track combo for months he would achieve it?

Even though i only did 40 minutes yesterday, i dont need months to find the limit of the car, id say another session and i will be 2-3 tenths away from the best i can do, if i didnt had errors in the lap it would been around 6:27.300, and from there i would have had a hard time to run faster, id say 6:26.900s would be a serious lap, theres only 2 area where i had to slow down because of unstability as well.

From there its up to the difference you can find from offline to online. If smallfryz had the same pace as me, then we have 5 second gap from online to offline. Wich mean to have a lap as good as 6:27 with a stand still start, it would be a 6:25.7 with a rolling start(still online), wich is 6:20.7 offline.

But its just speculating i dont know the exact difference.

You will find out when he run his lap.
I can upload the video once im done to give an idea.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

If Mike could do 6:27 offline rolling start, he will need to shave at least 4 - 6 seconds to have the same pace at online-standing start ... seems unlikely he can do it on a short time span .... 6:27 online - standing would be a perfect lap for common people

 

[phil_75]

Yes it would be great if you could upload a vid!

Online/offline can vary so much though, from no difference to 5 or 6 secs over nurb

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Treed by Mike

 

[Slayerslice]

Going to buy a G27 next month when my pay comes in.
Definately looking forward to a racing wheel, probably will get a converter aswell so I can use it on a Xbox 360 aswell on the PS3.

 

[NLxAROSA]

Going to buy a G27 next month when my pay comes in.
Definately looking forward to a racing wheel, probably will get a converter aswell so I can use it on a Xbox 360 aswell on the PS3.

Note that even with a converter, using a Logitech on the Xbox 360 will not be a very good experience, especially regarding FFB. If you want to have a wheel that works well on both platforms you'd better get a Fanatec.

 

[CSLACR]

Offline is faster than online, a 6:27 offline is equal to 6:29-6:30 online, minus the standing start.
I tried it myself last night as well, 6:27, online, from a dead stop is BS.

We're talking about "in a race" here, not practicing and TT'ing the track online with repeated runs for a golden one.
Total BS.

6:27 online - standing would be a perfect lap for common people

No, 6:27 is an impossible lap for 99.9999999% of GT5 players.
The 70 people in the world that can do it, can't do it in races on a whim either.

Your right, I'm not an alien, and neither are the guys i race with. We are just ring masters and run nothing else. Your logic has failed. Its all practice. NO ONE I race with uses SRF, We all look down on it, just like you do.


Then it must be the driver

And how do you get it to 557 without a wing, out of the 8-9 CSL's that I have they max out at 554 without a wing

Why did you try 9?
I only had to try one to know it was max power.
502HP, 566PP with wing @ 0/20, 557 without the wing.

So now instead of Logic putting me 6 seconds faster then the worlds best.

Logic is putting them at the same time as me with the only difference being online/offline physics.

Damn... Looks like I'm really good at calculating youtube video's and making stuff up huh?
Its amazing how my "estimated" time was DEAD ON to whats possible.....

Absolutely Ridiculous.

So it sounds like he's coming out of the closet here...And this is where he expects a surprised reaction....(drumroll) and doesn't get one.

 

[Small_Fryz]

From there its up to the difference you can find from offline to online. If smallfryz had the same pace as me, then we have 5 second gap from online to offline. Wich mean to have a lap as good as 6:27 with a stand still start, it would be a 6:25.7 with a rolling start(still online), wich is 6:20.7 offline.

But its just speculating i dont know the exact difference.

You will find out when he run his lap.
I can upload the video once im done to give an idea.

Thanks for the confidence Mike, but I think you are a bit faster than me around here . I have spent more time with the Tranny Trick and suspension + loosing the wing etc and have gained some time, but havn't strung together a solid lap yet. (either offline or online). From splits I think I can improve my standing start online time by 1, maybe 2 seconds but that is about it.

On that note.., as with CSLACR above, I'm finding at least 2 - 3 (if not close to 4) second advantage with flying laps offline vs standing start online. Not to mention you need to tune the car differently to deal with the extra oversteer online, so needing to switch between tunes.

Mike's 27.xxx offline is stunning and there is simply no way someone else can run a 27 from standing start online, that puts them at a 23-24 for an offline flying lap!!. I mean.... we are talking about a stretch even for someone like Ti-Tech (even then Id believe it only if I saw it) and this guy is the ultimate alien, who is mega fast at every combo and topped multiple academy time trials at the global level. Far from the average Joe term that has been thrown around here.

I know we have to wait until Saturday/Sunday but if Rock comes through here with the goods it would be the equivalent of someone (who has never won or competed in any official event) walking upto the blocks of the 100m at the local track and beating Usain Bolt, yet claiming he is only a weekend runner.

 

[rosckolove]

Offline is faster than online, a 6:27 offline is equal to 6:29-6:30 online, minus the standing start.
I tried it myself last night as well, 6:27, online, from a dead stop is BS.

It seems you mis-read Mike's post. The ONLY difference in his estimate was Online/Offline physics. Now add months of practice into the equation.

We're talking about "in a race" here, not practicing and TT'ing the track online with repeated runs for a golden one.
Total BS.

I didn't just randomly get this lap the day I tuned the car. I spent counless hours just tuning the car, let alone perfecting each and every corner. I ran ALOT of laps, Even though others are on the track, that is essentially Time Trialing If you start from pole, and still good practice if you don't.

No, 6:27 is an impossible lap for 99.9999999% of GT5 players.
The 70 people in the world that can do it, can't do it in races on a whim either.

Well I achieved that lap time multiple times in races (pole position is safe to assume) So I guess I'm rare.
Just so we are all clear though, I can't do it on a whim.

Why did you try 9?
I only had to try one to know it was max power.
502HP, 566PP with wing @ 0/20, 557 without the wing.

I raced the CSL a lot, I like to change colors every now and then. Also I was hunting a low mileage one. Have a few 0/0/0 models now.

So it sounds like he's coming out of the closet here...And this is where he expects a surprised reaction....(drumroll) and doesn't get one.

No sir, that was in reply to arora and others agreeing I looked at a youtube video and made up a time.

Funny thing is. We went from the time's I suggested being completely not possible, and me getting ridiculed.

Then change to the times I suggested as being possible, You think I had guessed the fastest possible times that accurately? Thats experience in the matter, not a guess.

Common sense tells you I was obviously joking, in reference to what you quoted.

Mike's 27.xxx offline is stunning and there is simply no way someone else can run a 27 from standing start online

Why not?

Guys try and Compare my sector times to yours. they are legit.

I know we have to wait until Saturday/Sunday but if Rock comes through here with the goods it would be the equivalent of someone (who has never won or competed in any official event) walking upto the blocks of the 100m at the local track and beating Usain Bolt, yet claiming he is only a weekend runner.

Sounds unlikely, but possible. WAY more possible in this case.

 

[arora]

One word, replay.

 

[rosckolove]

One word, replay.

One acronym, AUP.

Have a read through this thread, and check rule #3. Thanks

 

[arora]

You are missing the point, you think you are gaining ground somehow but you really are not. I'm trying to be patient and all that but, you just have to keep on with the babble.

Is it Saturday yet?

 

[Spagetti69]

Saturdays challenge, is it wheel or pad? I'm lost.

 

[rosckolove]

It doesn't matter if I am gaining ground or not. Infact it will be a much more "in your face boneheads" kind of event if you all continue to think I made it up until saturday.

Here's the thing, I haven't broken the AUP, and you have, with YOUR babble.

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Rosckolove with a pad, against world's best of wheel driver

 

[carracerptp]

I'm just going to wait for Saturday, I really want to do a race, then it is next to impossible for any sort of smoke and mirrors. (side note, I hope we can do 2 races, I want to try with both DS3 and Wheel).
Still, like CSL said, only a small list of people could even hope for a lap that perfect, not even going to comment on the claim you ran 27s more than once.
It's funny how everyone you have mentioned is basically unknown (even to stats tracking sites for one). Really, I would like to see a bunch of unknown super ring aliens running lap times so fast GTP wouldn't believe it.

 

[Spagetti69]

Rosckolove with a pad, against world's best of wheel driver

Sounds fantastic. What time does the race begin?

 

[rosckolove]

I'm just going to wait for Saturday, I really want to do a race, then it is next to impossible for any sort of smoke and mirrors.
Still, like CSL said, only a small list of people could even hope for a lap that perfect, not even going to comment on the claim you ran 27s more than once.
It's funny how everyone you have mentioned is basically unknown (even to stats tracking sites for one).

I can't be in the small list?

I have only mentioned one other guy capable of fast laps xXPrinceRajaXx. He can run a 6:28 online standing start and all that. Did someone (you I think) not run into someone claiming they saw a lap that fast?

In all reality, every bit of evidence is helping my case, it went from not possible, to possible but really hard (I wouldn't have posted a lap if it wasn't my absolute best, and hard to do) And someone else online claiming he saw almost the same time.

What does all this tell you? I looked at a youtube video, and guessed DEAD ON whats possible?

Or that I know what I'm talking about, and maybe I can run those lap times.

And again guys, why the heck would I make all this up? What do I gain besides hatred and humility?

 

[Ridox2JZGTE]

Sounds fantastic. What time does the race begin?

Better ask Rosckolove, it will be on Saturday for sure, not sure about the time, maybe they will race on a public room - they should settle for a room title like " 550pp World's Best "

 

[phil_75]

Rosckolove can you not ask your mate with the ps3 to just play it and video it with his phone until we see the proper one on saturday?

Off topic: this second seasonal TT, the 700PP one is really pi@@ing me off!
The lap keeps getting disqualified when you go over the jump at cape ring.
Ridiculous track for a "simulation" game anyway!

 

[carracerptp]

I can't be in the small list?

I have only mentioned one other guy capable of fast laps xXPrinceRajaXx. He can run a 6:28 online standing start and all that. Did someone (you I think) not run into someone claiming they saw a lap that fast?

Yes, and I got "part" of his PSN (missing the numbers at the end of his or her handle). It isn't xXPrinceRajaXx or close. I googled xXPrinceRajaXx to see if anyone had saved is crazy fast replays and all I could find was this site. I don't think you got the PSN right (maybe I'm wrong...)

If you are on that list basically I have no idea how this group of the worlds best ring racers could be racing without videos being posted of the crazy fast times. I have raced in a few rooms full of members on that list (I lost big time). All of them could be found online with a video or a post mentioning how fast they are.

 

[arora]

In all reality, every bit of evidence is helping my case,

Replay.

 

[rosckolove]

Rosckolove can you not ask your mate with the ps3 to just play it and video it with his phone until we see the proper one on saturday?

He's got his own life. I don't bother my friends unless I have to. This is a video game. Its not that important.

Although the way you guys act I will be GT5 famous after this saturday.

Arora please check the AUP, Mods already came in here once.

And who ever said he uploaded a video? I can't access PSN so I doubt I got his name perfect.

I never needed to. I win races, and post fast times. Everyone saw it first hand. This is the first time I needed a replay

 

[Small_Fryz]

Rock with a pad, vs me with a wheel. Plus any others who wish to join.

Just dialed in a 6'32.0 from a standing start online. Really got the car working nicely now. Hopefully can pick up another 1 - 1.5 seconds so I can at least match the average Joes.