Which is Faster Supra or skyline..??
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cerpin_taxt
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beta test the comparison on that, that way there is an equal advantage. my brother was complaning about this a week ago...
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I used the v-spec with 6.2 miles stock and fully tuned and still lost refer to page 8. But if you want to do it go ahead. I guarantee the skyline no matter what you do it will not win. The only skyline that will win is the 2000 GTR that's 3 years ahead of the Supra's production.
I already did a Power to weight ratio test and still the GTR lost.
Alright this Test would end all speculations for the 97' Supra RZ
I ran the same test's but this time I had the POWER to Weight Ration as close as possible.
97' Supra RZ
PW: 4.577
97' GTR R33 Vspec
PW: 4.575
@ Tsukuba
Supra .678 avg quicker
@ Le Sarthe
Supra 1.849 avg quicker
Still the Supra was faster even with the disadvantage of .002 more on the ratio.
I already did a Power to weight ratio test and still the GTR lost.
Alright this Test would end all speculations for the 97' Supra RZ
I ran the same test's but this time I had the POWER to Weight Ration as close as possible.
97' Supra RZ
PW: 4.577
97' GTR R33 Vspec
PW: 4.575
@ Tsukuba
Supra .678 avg quicker
@ Le Sarthe
Supra 1.849 avg quicker
Still the Supra was faster even with the disadvantage of .002 more on the ratio.
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Leonidae
I don't think it's fair to compare the R34 just based on the gearbox it's 3 years ahead of the supra's production.
Second I did two test's stock for stock and the R34 smoked the Supra RZ it's not even a close comparison and a waist of time IMO.
It's already proven the Supra wins hands down same year same class low miles same Power to weight. If you want to compare it to R34 go ahead. To each is own but that says allot about the Supra RZ it's a great car Stock form and tuned.
Pink_the_Floyd
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cerpin_taxt
Most senseless post of GTP in 2006. Jordan should make a GTP awards, you would become the clearly winner for "most senseless post in 2006" with that reply...
Pink_the_Floyd
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zefffIts a concept of the next Supra.
here is the FJ cruiser.
http://toyota20032004.free.fr/images/japon/toyota/2003_fj-cruiser_7.jpg
Beleive me, there is NEVER a new Supra coming out, posts have been made been before;
Look!Look! New Supra, V10, 550 HP, blablablah!
It appeared to be the Lexus LF-A...
Dozins of pictures have been posted and still, I stand were I am: There is NEVER and there will never be anew Supra which will looks as good as the MKIV
- 2,571
My conclusion from all these 'tests to end all tests' from biased sources is, the driving style and preference, not to mention skill level, of the driver will determine which car they deem 'faster'.
So, in my opinion the only fair way to bring an end to this debate is to race the two cars against each other, being driven by their 'supporters'.
Of course this means a track is required, and what better place than the Nürburgring Nordschleife? The only true test of all of a car's abilities.
Now, this next part may cause some arguement.
Any Supra and any Skyline can be used. Any tuning modifications can be used, including exhaust system modifications, engine modifications, turbo modifications, suspension modifications, drivetrain modifications, brake modifications, lightweighting/rollcage/VCD, tyre changes and setting changes.
I think it is right to use any Skyline against any Supra, despite the possible 'age gap' between the cars. The title of this thread is not 'Which is faster out of a Supra and Skyline of equal age and power capabilities', but simple 'Which is Faster : Supra or Skyline?'
This implies that the thread starter wants to know if the fastest Skyline is faster than the fastest Supra or not. As such, any Supra and any Skyline should be used.
I will enter this challenge, driving a Skyline.
DE
So, in my opinion the only fair way to bring an end to this debate is to race the two cars against each other, being driven by their 'supporters'.
Of course this means a track is required, and what better place than the Nürburgring Nordschleife? The only true test of all of a car's abilities.
Now, this next part may cause some arguement.
Any Supra and any Skyline can be used. Any tuning modifications can be used, including exhaust system modifications, engine modifications, turbo modifications, suspension modifications, drivetrain modifications, brake modifications, lightweighting/rollcage/VCD, tyre changes and setting changes.
I think it is right to use any Skyline against any Supra, despite the possible 'age gap' between the cars. The title of this thread is not 'Which is faster out of a Supra and Skyline of equal age and power capabilities', but simple 'Which is Faster : Supra or Skyline?'
This implies that the thread starter wants to know if the fastest Skyline is faster than the fastest Supra or not. As such, any Supra and any Skyline should be used.
I will enter this challenge, driving a Skyline.
DE
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Dark Elite
Big waist of time if you ask me. I also did the 2000 R34 GTR Fully tuned vs the Supra RZ it kills it. Not even close. I don't understand whay everyone intends on doing this comparison of different year Skylines. It makes no sense Duh any R34 you get will kill the Supra RZ it's a no brainier.
What the heck let me do the Nur test.
I'm not even going to pick the R34 GTR vspec Nur I'll go with the lower hp Base 2000 R34 GTR.
00' R34 GTR
855Hp
Power To weight: 1.495
Supra RZ
859hp
Power to weight: 1.459
NUr Ring:
Once again GTR Wins it's 5sec on avg faster each lap. Even with the disadvantage of the power to weight it still wins. Even in B spec mode it was 2 sec faster on avg. Stock for stock even worse....
The GTR also has 100ft lbs tq Less then the Supra. I mean how much more can you give the Supra. Supra is not I repeat is not going to beat any R34. The R34 is to ahead of it's time. The ATTESA AWD kicks AZZ.
It's very clear the Supra in it's year was Better then the GTR in it's same year (97' vs 97') in this game not in real world people. You got to give it some credit there.
Bottom line:
97' Supra RZ wins stock for stock, fully tuned, with disadvantage of power to weight still beats the 97' R33 GTR Vspec even B spec mode will agree to that.
97' Supra RZ Loses Stock for stock, fully tuned and with the ADVANTAGE of power to weight still loses to the base R34 GTR model.
Now what's next "Oh we need to test the R34 GTR Vspec II Nur vs the Supra.
Give me a break....It sucks that we don't have a newer Supra to compare to but what can you do.
End of discusion Lock Thread.....
cerpin_taxt
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thank you! someone agrees!Leonidae
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Sonzilla, if you must ignore all of my reasoning above then that's fine, but nobody will take your results seriously because as I said, it is all down to driving style.
Now that is the end of the discussion.
I do not care how old the cars are or how unfair it is, the thread starter did not ask for a fair, age-based comparison and so that is not what we should do. We have compared the fastest Skyline to the fastest Supra and the Skyline is the fastest. End Of Discussion.
EDIT - I'm not going to bother to post again.
DE
Therefore, you are saying that the answer to the original thread question is 'Skyline is faster than Supra'.Sonzilla
Now that is the end of the discussion.
I do not care how old the cars are or how unfair it is, the thread starter did not ask for a fair, age-based comparison and so that is not what we should do. We have compared the fastest Skyline to the fastest Supra and the Skyline is the fastest. End Of Discussion.
EDIT - I'm not going to bother to post again.
And you will be very wrong, Supra - 306.00mph vs. Skyline - 314.19mphMayuri Ootsuka
DE
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This thread is like some old Newman and Badiel sketch about "History Today"
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"See that refuse bin with old vegetables and fruits in it" said the Old Professor.
"I am aware of the recycling bin with a flip top lid and wheels on the base." replied the Even Older History Professor.
"That's your fastest Nissan Skyline that is." said the Old Professor, "See how it is painted the most exciting colour of grey and watch it as it understeers like the Amoco Cadiz."
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When many people get Gran Turismo they are already in one camp or the other. They Love Skylines, or they Love Supras. And never will they change.
You can twist it any way you like.
Sonzilla summed it up well.
If you are a Supra Fan you will say - Fastest must be top speed... so eat my dust Skyline Fatboy
Skylinistas will say "But the lastest R34 will make the Supra seem like it was made 7 years ago in a farmyard In Aichi Province. Over a full lap of any track the Stock R34 will eat Supra's for breakfast"
Before I drove my test I had bought into the Skyline Hype and thought the GTr would wipe the floor with the Supra, And was pretty amazed when the Supra not only came out better but utterly dominated the test I performed.
The only advice I can give is. See for yourself. A Supra may on paper be faster, but you could find you prefer to drive the Skyline.
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"See that refuse bin with old vegetables and fruits in it" said the Old Professor.
"I am aware of the recycling bin with a flip top lid and wheels on the base." replied the Even Older History Professor.
"That's your fastest Nissan Skyline that is." said the Old Professor, "See how it is painted the most exciting colour of grey and watch it as it understeers like the Amoco Cadiz."
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When many people get Gran Turismo they are already in one camp or the other. They Love Skylines, or they Love Supras. And never will they change.
You can twist it any way you like.
Sonzilla summed it up well.
If you are a Supra Fan you will say - Fastest must be top speed... so eat my dust Skyline Fatboy
Skylinistas will say "But the lastest R34 will make the Supra seem like it was made 7 years ago in a farmyard In Aichi Province. Over a full lap of any track the Stock R34 will eat Supra's for breakfast"
Before I drove my test I had bought into the Skyline Hype and thought the GTr would wipe the floor with the Supra, And was pretty amazed when the Supra not only came out better but utterly dominated the test I performed.
The only advice I can give is. See for yourself. A Supra may on paper be faster, but you could find you prefer to drive the Skyline.
Leonidae
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THREAD REVIVAL!
Those tests remained to gnaw me until I decided to do my own with stock cars. all cars, except Nür, were 6.2 milers ,and had oil change done.
Cars:
Nissan
R32 GT-R V-Spec II, 6.2 miler, oilchange, 327bhp at garage screen
R33 GT-R, 6.2 miler, oilchange, 341bhp at garage screen
R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nür, new, oilchange, 359bhp at garage screen
Toyota
Supra RZ 6.2 miler, oilchange, 347bhp at garage screen
Track:SSR5 full course.
First car on shady SSR5 was Supra RZ. Packing 347bhp and plenty of torque, this RWD coupe was quick to drive on straight sections, and accelerated quickly. Upper range of the revs felt bit limp too, no power or torque there. Bit of a surprize for a sports car that tops out 180mph on Test Course.
Recommendations: Don't rev this car to the limiter, 5500-6000rpms is good spot to shift up.
On corners, Supra felt surprisingly soft, nodding visibly under braking. During cornering the car was slightly hesitant to turn, like the front wheels weren't aware of their task. I had to either tap the brakes to force some weight on them, or yank the E-brake and tap the throttle, neatly drifting in the beginning of the corners.
recommendations: Learn weight-shifting and using E-brake, or brake earlier.
When the corners end came near, I straightened the car and floored the go-pedal, resulting wilt a glorious clouds of tyre smoke, thus, I had to back off and wait for the grip, or throw third gear in. Either way, exiting and entering the corners neatly were obviously weak spots of this cars handling.
Recommendations: Practice throttle control.
Next car was R34 V-Spec II Nür. Spitting out 359bhp and enough of momentum, this AWD coupe blasted off from the start and kept going strong. Brakes bit hard, and nose did dive here as well, but not as much as Supra did, possibly because GT-R's engine is lighter than Supras. Mid-range power was good, but felt bit thin at upper revs, but kept pulling all the way to limiter. This car had topped out 175mph on Test Course.
Recommendations: Easy car to launch. Even though the engine revs high, shift around 6000-7000rpms to get most out of it.
GT-R's cornering was quite peculiar. I could toss it sideways and drift thru corner in controllable slide, or just keep tapping the throttle and brakes, forcing the weight to shift to front wheels. but unlike Supra, this car didn't start to understeer until at the extreme limits. front wheels had loads of grip and they pulled the nose to the direction where they pointed at.
Recommendations: Weight-shifting applies here too. Tapping brakes and throttle helps the weight transfer during cornering.
In the exit of the corners, GT-R's drivetrain showed it's true parade trick. On the apex of corner, when I stopped drifting and started to aim at the exit, I could ease off the throttle and hold it even, and GT-R sneaked on the inside of the exit, thus providing me best possible driving line for fast out acceleration. No wheelspin, no drama, just hit the go-pedal and you're off.
Recommendations: Practice utilizing all grip and manouverability what GT-R's drivetrain can offer.
I also did test R33 and R32, but they're pretty similar to R34, they just need bit more know-how in order to keep them from understeering. Surprisingly, R32 qualified 2nd, possibly because it's lightest of the lot.
anyways, my test results are:
1.)R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nür 1'36.572
2.)R32 GT-R V-Spec II 1'38.722
3.)R33 GT-R 1'38.731
4.)Supra RZ 1'38.787
I can provide a photo or video of the lap time screen when needed.
Those tests remained to gnaw me until I decided to do my own with stock cars. all cars, except Nür, were 6.2 milers ,and had oil change done.
Cars:
Nissan
R32 GT-R V-Spec II, 6.2 miler, oilchange, 327bhp at garage screen
R33 GT-R, 6.2 miler, oilchange, 341bhp at garage screen
R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nür, new, oilchange, 359bhp at garage screen
Toyota
Supra RZ 6.2 miler, oilchange, 347bhp at garage screen
Track:SSR5 full course.
First car on shady SSR5 was Supra RZ. Packing 347bhp and plenty of torque, this RWD coupe was quick to drive on straight sections, and accelerated quickly. Upper range of the revs felt bit limp too, no power or torque there. Bit of a surprize for a sports car that tops out 180mph on Test Course.
Recommendations: Don't rev this car to the limiter, 5500-6000rpms is good spot to shift up.
On corners, Supra felt surprisingly soft, nodding visibly under braking. During cornering the car was slightly hesitant to turn, like the front wheels weren't aware of their task. I had to either tap the brakes to force some weight on them, or yank the E-brake and tap the throttle, neatly drifting in the beginning of the corners.
recommendations: Learn weight-shifting and using E-brake, or brake earlier.
When the corners end came near, I straightened the car and floored the go-pedal, resulting wilt a glorious clouds of tyre smoke, thus, I had to back off and wait for the grip, or throw third gear in. Either way, exiting and entering the corners neatly were obviously weak spots of this cars handling.
Recommendations: Practice throttle control.
Next car was R34 V-Spec II Nür. Spitting out 359bhp and enough of momentum, this AWD coupe blasted off from the start and kept going strong. Brakes bit hard, and nose did dive here as well, but not as much as Supra did, possibly because GT-R's engine is lighter than Supras. Mid-range power was good, but felt bit thin at upper revs, but kept pulling all the way to limiter. This car had topped out 175mph on Test Course.
Recommendations: Easy car to launch. Even though the engine revs high, shift around 6000-7000rpms to get most out of it.
GT-R's cornering was quite peculiar. I could toss it sideways and drift thru corner in controllable slide, or just keep tapping the throttle and brakes, forcing the weight to shift to front wheels. but unlike Supra, this car didn't start to understeer until at the extreme limits. front wheels had loads of grip and they pulled the nose to the direction where they pointed at.
Recommendations: Weight-shifting applies here too. Tapping brakes and throttle helps the weight transfer during cornering.
In the exit of the corners, GT-R's drivetrain showed it's true parade trick. On the apex of corner, when I stopped drifting and started to aim at the exit, I could ease off the throttle and hold it even, and GT-R sneaked on the inside of the exit, thus providing me best possible driving line for fast out acceleration. No wheelspin, no drama, just hit the go-pedal and you're off.
Recommendations: Practice utilizing all grip and manouverability what GT-R's drivetrain can offer.
I also did test R33 and R32, but they're pretty similar to R34, they just need bit more know-how in order to keep them from understeering. Surprisingly, R32 qualified 2nd, possibly because it's lightest of the lot.
anyways, my test results are:
1.)R34 GT-R V-Spec II Nür 1'36.572
2.)R32 GT-R V-Spec II 1'38.722
3.)R33 GT-R 1'38.731
4.)Supra RZ 1'38.787
I can provide a photo or video of the lap time screen when needed.
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- George0393 + GTP_GM
Maybe you driven the Supra slowly on purpose though, I'll need to a comparison in my Comparison Thread soon, this is getting out of hand 
Ignore the Mitsubushi 3000GT
While the Skyline beats the Supra at 400 Meters, the Supra wins at everything else, end of story.
Ignore the Mitsubushi 3000GT
While the Skyline beats the Supra at 400 Meters, the Supra wins at everything else, end of story.
- 2,571
If that's the case, why don't you try it yourself and see if you can drive a stock 6.2 mile Supra RZ around SSR5 faster than the time Leo posted?Morley
Oh, and by the way. ''The Skyline V-Spec, there are so many, I'm using the LM Limited version made in 1995''? I'd like to know which car you actually used, because no such car exists.
DE
Leonidae
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I did drive it as fast as it's grip allowed, and used my best ability to get the most out of those cars. and I used DFP, so no chance of getting false impression about handling like DS2 gives. and I'm not even the fastest in our Team, Greycap is. if i ask him to do this test, he'll add 2 seconds in to that gap between GT-R's and Supra. probably even more.
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I have no idea why you waisted your time with the R34 it was pretty obvious, to each is own.
Anyways what do we have here, a single test done on SSR5 a City Course a non real race coarse. Why you chose this particular track to run a test stupefies me.
Well lets look at your results, " the real comparison you did get right" should have thrown in the V-spec, as I explained a few pages back being it's the closest to performance for the same year as the RZ...
3.)R33 GT-R 1'38.731
4.)Supra RZ 1'38.787
So looking at your times to me either car is at it's limit, well I guess thats to your ability. You drove both cars pretty much the same to your liking. What I mean by that is you drove in boundries of your niche and not out the box . (My Personal Opinion)
Thats pretty much a tie if you ask me. 56 hundredths of a sec isn't even a car length more like maybe a half a car length at best.
Well I'm off to try this test out just for the hell of it. I enjoy both cars very much anyways.👍
EDIT:
Im back...
Holy cow...!!!!
Wow First lap
1997 Supra RZ 6.2miles 347hp
First lap 1.35.284
Vs.
Now after 20laps. This was the first car I chose when I started the test.
1997 Nissan MNP GTR R33 341hp
Best lap time 1.36.495
Now this proves to me that Leonidae you are either biased towards the GTR or you simply just haven't found the right way to drive these machines. Please don't take this personal but I barely even tried with the Supra RZ. I did in fact try repeated laps 21 to be exact with the GTR and that's the best I can muster is a mid 1.36.XXX A little more like maybe 1.35.9XX should be possible.
I'm also using the DS2 so imagine if I had the DFP.
Like I said before the RZ is a TQ monster and will pull higher top speeds. The SSR5 has a very long straight away this is where most of the times are gained. The GTR suffers 6hp loss and less TQ. The GTR also has a tendency to under steer. I don'tknow what it's going to take to prove that stock for stock and fully modded the Supra RZ wins. It's only the R34 that it can't beat, R34 being years ahead plus with more power.
Anyways what do we have here, a single test done on SSR5 a City Course a non real race coarse. Why you chose this particular track to run a test stupefies me.
Well lets look at your results, " the real comparison you did get right" should have thrown in the V-spec, as I explained a few pages back being it's the closest to performance for the same year as the RZ...
3.)R33 GT-R 1'38.731
4.)Supra RZ 1'38.787
So looking at your times to me either car is at it's limit, well I guess thats to your ability. You drove both cars pretty much the same to your liking. What I mean by that is you drove in boundries of your niche and not out the box . (My Personal Opinion)
Thats pretty much a tie if you ask me. 56 hundredths of a sec isn't even a car length more like maybe a half a car length at best.
Well I'm off to try this test out just for the hell of it. I enjoy both cars very much anyways.👍
EDIT:
Im back...
Holy cow...!!!!
Wow First lap
1997 Supra RZ 6.2miles 347hp
First lap 1.35.284
Vs.
Now after 20laps. This was the first car I chose when I started the test.
1997 Nissan MNP GTR R33 341hp
Best lap time 1.36.495
Now this proves to me that Leonidae you are either biased towards the GTR or you simply just haven't found the right way to drive these machines. Please don't take this personal but I barely even tried with the Supra RZ. I did in fact try repeated laps 21 to be exact with the GTR and that's the best I can muster is a mid 1.36.XXX A little more like maybe 1.35.9XX should be possible.
I'm also using the DS2 so imagine if I had the DFP.
Like I said before the RZ is a TQ monster and will pull higher top speeds. The SSR5 has a very long straight away this is where most of the times are gained. The GTR suffers 6hp loss and less TQ. The GTR also has a tendency to under steer. I don'tknow what it's going to take to prove that stock for stock and fully modded the Supra RZ wins. It's only the R34 that it can't beat, R34 being years ahead plus with more power.
Pink_the_Floyd
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Please!
Is this still going on?
Supra beats R32
Supra beats R33
Supra gets owned by R34
Might be different depending of driver abilities.( all three lines mentioned above)
Nuff said...
Close this thread!
Is this still going on?
Supra beats R32
Supra beats R33
Supra gets owned by R34
Might be different depending of driver abilities.( all three lines mentioned above)
Nuff said...
Close this thread!
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Sonzilla
all youve proved is that you personally are better with the supra and you havent simply proved that the supra is better just that you are better in the supra than you are in the skyline i am personally better in the skyline but everyone has their own way of driving and so no matter how many people do tests all they are doing is proving that they are better in that car NOT that the car they got better times in better
Leonidae
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- GTP_Leonidae_MFT
and which controller you used? DS2? and I chose SSR5 because I thought it would give advantage to your precious Supra.. but, in my hands, GT-R's beat Supra fair and square, with oil change and S2 tyres, driven with DFP. and I see that your GT-R wasn't 6.2 mile one.. so who's biased now?
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speed_demon
You obviously haven't read anything from this thread. I did provide actual results from all aspects. If you did you would see that most better yet just about everyone who has done this test will agree with me.
If you truly believe in what you just typed then it's a shame. I mean the performance specs speaks for itself. It tells you who should win and infact it's right. If you treat test's as a personal touch than you are not a PROFESSIONAL. A pro could take any car in the game and maximize it's potential to the fullest as I did. Thus when I saw Leonadae times I knew immediately that it was false. I have played with the best I understand these cars better than you think. So if you want to believe that it's based on personal touch go ahead to each is own. But this thread was created to find out which vehicle is truly better and I provided results after results repeatedly.
HERE IT IS AGAIN... A DETAILED TEST
I'm finally done with my comparos. This one was kind of close. Don't be discouraged about the hp it has the same loss of 6hp used or new so it won't matter.
The Basics:
97' Supra RZ
325Hp @ 5600
391.59lbs @ 3600
1510kg
97' GTR R33 Vspec
319hp @ 6800
308.41lbs @4400
1530kg
Test Track Results: Oil change No TCS R5Tires for acuracy which eliminates any wheel spin.
0-400m
Supra
13.328
R33
13.442
0-1000M
Supra
24.447
R33
24.698
Top Speed
Supra
180.02mph
R33
174.60mph
Stock for Stock after 3 World circuits at 5 laps each.
S3 Tires
No Aids
With Oil Change
Tsukuba Circuit
97' Supra RZ
Avg sec quicker: 1.9
Supra's power & TQ really helps muscle it's way through the tight turns.
Held it's line pretty well. Stock suspension is allot stiffer and more refined than the GTR.
R33 stock is just to heavy and stands very tall. Isn't balanced enough to get into turns aggressively. it suffers severe under steer in result me applying the breaks early.
Infineon Sports Course
97' Supra RZ
Avg sec quicker: 1.78
Supra had slight over steer the elevation changes really paid a toll on it's lap times but still the victor.
The R33 did very well over the various elevations keeping all the wheels planted for maximum traction. Cornering speeds were also quicker.
Circuit de La Sarthe I
97' Supra RZ
Avg sec quicker: 5.6
Here the Supra hands down really shined here it's straight line speed was amazing.
The R33 just ran out of breath.
Conclusion:
Supra
Pros. The Supra just flat out had more power. Came with a nice tight suspension and handled very well. Tq was the favor for me exiting was wonderful point and turn and feel the Tq lunging you out.
Cons.
Slight over steer and under steer a little Twitchy at high speeds and tends to wonder a bit.
R33
Pros. It's AWD was sweet no sign of wheel spin. Cornering speed were nice and controllable at the right moment.
Cons.
Slightly heavier terrible under steer especially under breaking The car sat really high and pitching Suspension was way to soft.
Now for a bonus I wanted to see how well Both cars handled with R2 Tires, FULL TUNE @ MIDFIELD TRACK.
Full tune:
97' Supra RZ
832hpHp @ 5600
773.49lbs @ 3600
1253kg
97' GTR R33 Vspec
755hp @ 6800
578.13lbs @4400
1278kg
I was going to do various tracks but I didn't feel it was necessary.
97' Supra RZ
Best lap: 1.04.274
97' GTR R33 Vspec
Best lap: 1.05.549
I was very impressed with the R33 I had very little complaints. My settings were on point. With mild over steer just how I like it. I was actually trapping slightly faster MPH in the corners than the Supra.
The Supra Was a Beast in the straight line. It had massive wheel spin which I solved with a little TCS and LSD but then became a little pushy. Overall it was perfect. For some reason I enjoyed the Supras ride more maybe because it was more challenging to get under control. I lapped with this car more than I did with the R33. It felt so good I didn't want to stop. The R33 was quite repetitive with it's amazing cornering style. I mean it behaved the same way at every corner. It was the most consistent of the two and got boring pretty quick. So there you go that's my two cents.
What this proved to me was the the GTR's ATTESA AWD is a masterpiece suffocating any sense of wheel spin.
If you gave the R33 the same power as the Supra not even just 60 more ponies and TQ it could have been allot quicker.
I then began some test's with the R34 don't waist your time the Supra won't stand a chance.
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Leonidae
No hard feelings over here seriously...
Yep I used the DS2. No aids, actually it's slower with aids.
If your beating the Supra in a stock GTR then your doing something wrong. Seriously your times are way off. If you can't run a 1.36.xxx in the gtr then what does that tell me. You stated you used all the grip allowed by each car. What this tells me is you honestly aren't driving the car fast enough. So how should GTP's members believe your results. I ran a 1.36.xx on my 2nd lap in the GTR. IMO if you haven't learned to drive the car fast enough then you shouldn't provide a test. Your test only proves that YOU and only You drive the GTR faster then the Supra that's it. It has nothing to do with actual results. I'm cool with that. Your just saying you can drive the GTR better thats it.
side note.
First I'm a GTR fan from day one I'm an avid GTR enthusiast. I know GTR's from head to toe. You can find my name in GTR forums all over the net. I provide up to date information for the upcoming BNC36 GTR and later models.
I'm a certified Nascar Technician worked in Nascar. Was involved in the SCCA PCA club. I can also provide pics of times or anything else you don't beleive as soon as I get it fixed. I can also direct you to times I posted with verification.
Leonidae
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Very well ,enough of this.. I don't want to argue, it's useless since this is mere driving game. only Real drivers and owners of these cars will know which one is better. so, let's agree, that atleast in GTP and GT4, these two iconic cars are equal and end this endless and useless bickering, that doesn't give any profit to anyone. from this on we shall treat eachother and both of these cars with mutual respect to their abilities in the hands of capable driver.
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Yeah I completely agree, it is a "driving simulation" no need for arguing.
But the point of this thread was to talk about both cars in this simulative game not real world. It looks like you took it personal out side of the realm of the game. Which isn't what the thread starter had in mind. You have to agree with me on that.
j/k
Pink_the_Floyd
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You guys haven't had enough?!
Mods, were's your finger at?
Mods, were's your finger at?
Leonidae
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stop whining. we just agreed that they're equal in the game.. and as you can tell, Pink, in some hands certain cars are faster than in others.
and Sonz, I didn't take it personally. I'm just kinda tired of Toyota fanbois bashing GT-R's all the time and mistook you as one. sorry about that.
ciao!
Leo
and Sonz, I didn't take it personally. I'm just kinda tired of Toyota fanbois bashing GT-R's all the time and mistook you as one. sorry about that.
ciao!
Leo
Pink_the_Floyd
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Whining?!
This thread has been going on 11 pages now and nothing but discussions.
This thread has been going on 11 pages now and nothing but discussions.
The Supra handles much better than the Skyline. The Skyline has incredible understeer which I could barely get rid of to a merely satisfactory level by tuning the brakes to biasing them to the rear front 17 and rear 24 and decreasing the front traction from 40 to 25 percent.
It became a somewhat tail happy car but much better than the brick which it used to be in the turns... One more thing, you can fiddle with LSD (No, no, no, not the fairy dust thing; I mean the Limited Slip Differential settings...)
It became a somewhat tail happy car but much better than the brick which it used to be in the turns... One more thing, you can fiddle with LSD (No, no, no, not the fairy dust thing; I mean the Limited Slip Differential settings...)
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