Why Is Pizza Considered A Vegetable In US Schools?

[TheBook]

How much do the salads and wraps cost compared to the normal lunches?

We had a salad option as well, but it cost the same as a normal lunch and you got less food, hence most people went for the more food for the same price. It was usually just as crappy quality wise.

Not to mention those are all things people can make at home for cheaper, so if they wanted them they would just make them at home.

The salads cost the same, had just as much actual food in them as the less healthy options, and tasted better IMO. I would have rather eaten the cardboard box it probably came in, and the tomato paste (see, I'm keeping this on-topic ) tasted more like soap than anything, as I'm pretty sure they dumped a ton of cilantro in the sauce for whatever reason.

 

[Famine]

Well somebody have since the supreme court sees Pizza as a vegetable.

Something might not have been changed now but somewhere along the lines, someone has tried to go around the rules.

Great Xenu...

2 tablespoons of tomato paste suffice as veggie: Congress

 

[hampus_dh]

Great Xenu...

Does that make it a got damn vegetable? NO.

I know WHY it´s classified as a vegetable but it´s not a vegetable no matter how you look at it. It´s a pizza plain and simple.

 

[MikeTheHockeyFan]

This is the only person in this thread who gets it.

Sensationalist headline, although many schools do feed kids crap.

... a news outlet made it up in order to turn a report about changing the quantity of tomato paste required to class as one serving of fruits or vegetables (from two tablespoons to one half cup) into something that would not be hideously boring.

 

[dylansan]

I was hoping the internet would have shut up about this by now. Out of all the stupid things the government has done, this was the least.

 

[Famine]

Does that make it a got damn vegetable? NO.

No, it's a fruit.

I know WHY it´s classified as a vegetable but it´s not a vegetable no matter how you look at it. It´s a pizza plain and simple.

No it's tomato paste, plain and simple.

 

[hampus_dh]

No, it's a fruit.

No it's tomato paste, plain and simple.

Now you are just an annoying little ****.

A pizza is not a fruit nor is it vegetable. A pizza is a pizza plain and simple.
They don´t serve tomato paste, they serve pizza, which they claim is a vegetable.

 

[nick09]

It's only because the sauce has a single serving of the vegetable group. If you want to complain, complain to the US Government, they think it's a vegetable. Personally I think it's because of this:

The trade association lobbied Congress on behalf of frozen pizza sellers, such as ConAgra Foods Inc and Schwan Food Co and french fry maker McCain Foods Ltd.

So they got commercial companies backing it.

 

[Tornado]

A pizza is not a fruit nor is it vegetable. A pizza is a pizza plain and simple.

I'm having trouble finding the "Pizza" food group. Though perhaps it is on that newer food pyramid that they use these days.

 

[hampus_dh]

I'm having trouble finding the "Pizza" food group.

Probably because it doesn´t exist. I´m having trouble finding the pizza-plant.

 

[Famine]

Now you are just an annoying little ****.

You'd think someone with two temporary bans for abusive comments would be smarter than this.

A pizza is not a fruit nor is it vegetable. A pizza is a pizza plain and simple.

Tomato is a fruit.

They don´t serve tomato paste, they serve pizza, which they claim is a vegetable.

No, they're claiming that a slice of pizza counts as one serving of fruit/vegetable because it contains two tablespoons of tomato paste - the decision was to retain two tablespoons of tomato paste as one serving of fruit/vegetable and not increase the requirement to one half cup full.

Not that you're going to read this, because two temporary bans, 20 Infraction Points and one more abusive comment adds up to a permanent ban.

 

[Strittan]

No, they're claiming that a slice of pizza counts as one serving of fruit/vegetable because it contains two tablespoons of tomato paste - the decision was to retain two tablespoons of tomato paste as one serving of fruit/vegetable and not increase the requirement to one half cup full.

Good thing you cleared that up.

However, many Americans do think pizza is more or less healthy though, don't they?

 

[E28]

I'm having trouble finding the "Pizza" food group. Though perhaps it is on that newer food pyramid that they use these days.

That grid does make a pizza though. Bread, tomato and veg, then cheese and meat! Also, why is tomato in the vegetable section?

 

[Grayfox]

That food pyramid is wrong, it has tomato in the vegetable side.

Even though I know they are counting it as a vegetable due to the table spoon of tomato paste sauce, do they not see that it is not real tomato's that are being used but crap that is in it?

Think of orange juice, if you look at the bottle it will say made with 10% real fruit meaning the rest is just crap.

 

[TankAss95]

Now you are just an annoying little ****.

A pizza is not a fruit nor is it vegetable. A pizza is a pizza plain and simple.
They don´t serve tomato paste, they serve pizza, which they claim is a vegetable.

It seems to me that you find discomfort when opposed with disagreement. Why? Is there a need to use such aggressive ways when supporting your argument?

 

[rb26x]

Because our government must truly have some sort of mental retardation. We got into a big argument about it in English class today, it's almost unbeleivable if you ask me.

 

[Bigbazz]

No it isn't. In fact "they" aren't even doing anything.

How in any way does that disagree with what I said?



Also, to another poster. how does orange juice contain 90% crap, when orange juice is just squeezed oranges? What do you guys class as orange juice? orange squash/concentrate?

 

[Famine]

How in any way does that disagree with what I said?

It's not about pizza. It's about the quantity of tomato paste that qualifies as a serving of fruit/vegetable. It's nothing to do with finding an excuse or loophole to keep pizza on the school dinner menu... "They" didn't even do anything! The decision was to keep the classification - two tablespoonsful of tomato paste - as it was. Nothing changed.

Except a news outlet made a silly headline about pizza to make it look like a "stupid government" story.

 

[Horde_R35]

Americans are so funny ! How can this ignorence be? A great marketing number?

 

[Bigbazz]

It's not about pizza. It's about the quantity of tomato paste that qualifies as a serving of fruit/vegetable. It's nothing to do with finding an excuse or loophole to keep pizza on the school dinner menu... "They" didn't even do anything! The decision was to keep the classification - two tablespoonsful of tomato paste - as it was. Nothing changed.

Except a news outlet made a silly headline about pizza to make it look like a "stupid government" story.

Where did I ever say anything about pizza being a veg? You keep reposting this same thing as if people can't read it the first time. What I said was about the tomato paste.

So as i said.

 

[Famine]

Of course you did:

Basically, kids love pizza (it tastes awesome?) and it can be made for dirt cheap, so finding an excuse or loophole to keep it on the menu is what they are doing.

Oh wait, you didn't.

And that was the exact part I responded to - I even quoted it when responding to it. And to reiterate the rebuttal of your point there:

No it isn't. In fact "they" aren't even doing anything.

No excuses or loopholes were made to keep pizza on the menu. The decision wasn't even about pizza - it was about how much tomato paste classes as a serving of fruits/vegetables - and the decision was to not change anything.

 

[AMCNUT]

I think I misread the article initailly, because after rereading it, it appears that Famine is right - I suppose he proved that a long time ago.

But all the same, 'pizza as a vegitable' passes way better into popular culture and urban myth than some technicality about tablespoons and tomato paste. Besides, the US has enough other, far more serious things on thier plate. Everyone was going to need a release of some sort eventually!

Still amusing whichever way you split it.

 

[Famine]

That's the intent of the headline.

Incidentally, I class chocolate as a vegetable. It's made from cocoa beans (and cow juice - meat?). Also coffee - with two sugars - is made from coffee beans and sugar cane. So that's a vegetable too. I have four servings of vegetables before I'm even awake of a morning...

 

[AMCNUT]

Then does tea count as a vegitable? After all, tea leaves are, well... leaves. Not a big coffee person but that's an interesting analysis of the chocolate. What does that make milk chocloate then?

 

[TankAss95]

Then does tea count as a vegitable? After all, tea leaves are, well... leaves. Not a big coffee person but that's an interesting analysis of the chocolate. What does that make milk chocloate then?

I think milk chocolate does not contain cocoa beans but rather flavourings, yet it contains sugar I suppose.

 

[Sureboss]

Ah, but a serving is an actual size for each specific item not just having a bit of it. Eating a grape doesn't count as a serving Though I fear you may have missed Famine's ellipsis...

 

[Famine]

Then does tea count as a vegitable? After all, tea leaves are, well... leaves.

No, it counts as disgusting.

What does that make milk chocloate then?

I think milk chocolate does not contain cocoa beans but rather flavourings, yet it contains sugar I suppose.

Whut?

Milk chocolate contains milk and chocolate. The name's something of a clue. Typically it's 20% or so of cocoa solids and several other percent cocoa butter. British chocolate makers - typically Mars and Dairy Milk - use vegetable fats as a stabiliser, which did lead to a brief US/EU/UK spat over their use of the term "chocolate", with the alternative "vegelate" being proposed. How about "No", Scott?

 

[disinfected]

Better yet, why is the government regulating what kids eat? It's getting so far out of hand.

 

[AMCNUT]

No, it counts as disgusting.

Ah, not a fan of tea, eh? To each their own I suppose. I like it though - I find it a much better substitute for a morning drink than coffee.

Whut?

Well, it's chocolate (which you classify as a vegetable) with milk mixed in (I hope we can all agree that milk is dairy!) Wouldn't that make it some sort of hybrid then, by that logic? I like the term vegelate though!

 

[Famine]

Better yet, why is the government regulating what kids eat? It's getting so far out of hand.

In this case it isn't. Though it has the FDA for that which, better yet, is a completely unelected body with legislative powers.

Now that is something that's out of hand...

Ah, not a fan of tea, eh?

I'd rather drink tepid yak piss.

Well, it's chocolate (which you classify as a vegetable) with milk mixed in (I hope we can all agree that milk is dairy!) Wouldn't that make it some sort of hybrid then, by that logic?

I see. No, it'd class as a "balanced meal" - vegetable, dairy and, because that dairy comes from cownipples, meat.

Chocolate - the solution to all dietary problems. Except malnutrition, spots and diabeeeetus.

I like the term vegelate though!

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