why nascar? is it to help us sales?

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Looks like thats another thing to add on my "Extraordinary things to do with NASCAR in GT5" list.
 
Please stop trying to defend NASCAR. If people don't like it, then let them. Thinking that it requires virtually no skill is just being plain outright stubborn and ignorant to the sports. People who don't like it don't know much about it. I just hope that GT will educate those people on why NASCAR is great as any other racing series out there.

And NASCAR has every right to be in GT.
 
^ I'm not trying to defend NASCAR or anything. I'm more interested in street-legal cars than anything, its whatever that interests me that gets me captivated (rally & touring cars). :dopey:
 
Gran Turismo is all about cars, motorsports and car culture, so i think NASCAR fits into GT perfectly. GT used to be more about japanese/european racing, but by including more american cars, amarican car culture and american tracks it only was a question of time when Kazunori Yamauchi finally had to include NASCAR.

Will it help the sales in the US? Definately, but was NASCAR only included because of that? I dont think so.

Iam not a big fan of NASCAR, though i actually watched some races. I thought it was boring to watch, but i can definately understand that a lot of skill is required to drive at those speeds with so many cars arround you. I will give NASCAR a try and i think it adds to the overall experience.
 
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H3avyM3tal
Please stop trying to defend NASCAR. If people don't like it, then let them. Thinking that it requires virtually no skill is just being plain outright stubborn and ignorant to the sports. People who don't like it don't know much about it. I just hope that GT will educate those people on why NASCAR is great as any other racing series out there.

And NASCAR has every right to be in GT.
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Well, not so many people here in the UK have heard of NASCAR. I have, but it was probably just to boost the tracks in the game as so to add more speedways.
 
C-ZETA
Well, not so many people here in the UK have heard of NASCAR. I have, but it was probably just to boost the tracks in the game as so to add more speedways.
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If this is true I hope they use different types of tracks. They should have the following.
SuperSpeedway (Daytona, already in)
1.0 mile (Phoenix)
1.5 mile (Texas?)
Short track (Bristol)
2.0 mile (Auto Club Speedway)
2.0 mile triangle (Pocono)
Indianapolis

All of those tracks except Bristol(it however does have a drag strip) have a road course in the infield.
 
Hi all, I was watching TV yesterday and found NASCAR on Sky Sports 3HD and because of NASCAR being in GT5 and reading this forum yesterday i decided to give it a go and i watched abit of the heluva good race.

I have to say I do have a new respect for the sport, im not a big fan of 200 laps round a ring but the circuit race was actually got my attention and i enjoyed the last 27 laps (after the crash), i missed the end tho.

I dont know much about Nascar, i assumed that since most races are at ovals that they were built for ovals and that they would handle like the HKS drag cars in GT2 (extremely fast but crap at corners) so i was pleasently suprised at how well the cars raced yesterday.

I never liked the idea of the cars actually being shells and nothing like the cars they are supposed to resemble but im slowly coming round to the idea and understand that these cars need to be light, strong and have huge engines in them.

I can probably see myself watching it more if i get the chance and i see now that its not anywhere near as bad of a sport as i thought it was. however, it wont be replacing F1 as my favourite motorsport any time soon.
 
It's also an obvious way of adding more of Americas most lusted after cars too that and the tracks.So i'd expect classic Nascar cars in there like the Plymouth Roadrunner Superbird ( from GT2 ).
 
I have to say that I've given NASCAR a chance before, but I haven't really enjoyed it. However, I really like the idea of having the cars and tracks included in GT5.

If i were ever to make a (very minor) criticism about GT, it is that there are often too many variants of one particular model (e.g. several types of Skylines, RX-7s etc.) NASCAR events would provide a different and unique driving challenge, which can only be regarded as a good thing. I think that the game can only be better for having cars of all ages, performance levels and different motorsport categories.
 
Rand al Thor
it's easy to maintain concentrations when all you do is turn left all day long ;p
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I 100% guarantee that you would fail at turning left entering turn 1, rub a wall, black flag into an opponent. Or, you would be last place with a nugget of brown in your drawers.

Either way, you would fail at NASCAR.

People just don't get it. I'm not a huge fan of NASCAR either, but don't try and convince yourselves that racing a field of 16 at Fuji in an Acura NSX is somehow more difficult than roaring around Daytona with a field of 39.

Lose the arrogance.
 
d3br34k5
I 100% guarantee that you would fail at turning left entering turn 1, rub a wall, black flag into an opponent. Or, you would be last place with a nugget of brown in your drawers.

Either way, you would fail at NASCAR.

People just don't get it. I'm not a huge fan of NASCAR either, but don't try and convince yourselves that racing a field of 16 at Fuji in an Acura NSX is somehow more difficult than roaring around Daytona with a field of 39.

Lose the arrogance.
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The whole "you don't know anything" argument goes both ways. Though personally I think I would have a better chance of succesfully drviving a COT through turn 1 than say a F1 car.
 
Demon Drone
The whole "you don't know anything" argument goes both ways. Though personally I think I would have a better chance of succesfully drviving a COT through turn 1 than say a F1 car.
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That all depends on the drivers experience. As a total novice, yeah, it probably would be easy to drive a Car of Tomorrow through a corner, because they are more closely related to road cars.
However, for experienced professional driver, I think that the F1 car would be easy to drive around a track. Afterall, it's what they're designed to do. It's what hundreds of engineers are paid big sums of money to do. Whereas, a CoT has a front splitter, rear spoiler and a generic car body shape. They also have an 800hp, carburetor fed V8, driven through a 4 speed manual gearbox on high profile slick tyres.
I used to think NASCAR drivers were deluded when they say that NASCAR is a harder series than F1, but after watching yesterday's road course race I totally agree with them.
It's an achievement to just drive a NASCAR round a track without putting it in a wall. To then race them at 200mph in a 40 car field is incredible!
 
SUPER NUMBBER
Come back when you've played the first Gran Turismo.
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You know, that was 12 years ago. Its time to move on. If NASCAR should be excluded because the GT series for whatever reason needs to be "touring cars only," then where is you problem with the F1 cars, the LMPs, the Kei cars, the muscle cars, the rally cars, and the cars in merely for historical value?
 
Justin
If this is true I hope they use different types of tracks. They should have the following.
SuperSpeedway (Daytona, already in)
1.0 mile (Phoenix)
1.5 mile (Texas?)
Short track (Bristol)
2.0 mile (Auto Club Speedway)
2.0 mile triangle (Pocono)
Indianapolis

All of those tracks except Bristol(it however does have a drag strip) have a road course in the infield.
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Something Tells me that track is very likely gonna be in GT5.


Demon Drone
The whole "you don't know anything" argument goes both ways.
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Though it really applies to the people who claim "Their is not as much skill involved" without showing any experience behind of any race car.
 
RufusGonePunk
That all depends on the drivers experience. As a total novice, yeah, it probably would be easy to drive a Car of Tomorrow through a corner, because they are more closely related to road cars.
However, for experienced professional driver, I think that the F1 car would be easy to drive around a track. Afterall, it's what they're designed to do. It's what hundreds of engineers are paid big sums of money to do. Whereas, a CoT has a front splitter, rear spoiler and a generic car body shape. They also have an 800hp, carburetor fed V8, driven through a 4 speed manual gearbox on high profile slick tyres.
I used to think NASCAR drivers were deluded when they say that NASCAR is a harder series than F1, but after watching yesterday's road course race I totally agree with them.
It's an achievement to just drive a NASCAR round a track without putting it in a wall. To then race them at 200mph in a 40 car field is incredible!
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So wait the better you become as a driver the harder driving the car that was not that bad as a novice the first time you drove it? That literally makes no sense

I posted this in another topic and I think it shows how monumental of a task driving a Formula 1 car is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo
 
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Sam Hornish and Juan Montoya both said it takes 3 seasons to get use to driving NASCAR style cars. So, if this is true we should ALL suck real bad for a while, with the exception of the guys who race PC sim nascar games.
 
Demon Drone
The whole "you don't know anything" argument goes both ways. Though personally I think I would have a better chance of succesfully drviving a COT through turn 1 than say a F1 car.
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If by succesfully driving you mean that you could turn the car, then me, and everyone on this forum can do it too. Same with a F1 car. We are talking about a game here, naturally. But there's a point between "succesfully" and "perfectly". If you can only turn the car succesfully, I doubt you will win a race. Since most races are in ovals, but not strictly limited to, your best chance to win a race is to optimize your cornering speed. As much as possible.
 
Demon Drone
So wait the better you become as a driver the harder driving the car that was not that bad as a novice the first time you drove it? That literally makes no sense

I posted this in another topic and I think it shows how monumental of a task driving a Formula 1 car is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGUZJVY-sHo
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So you'd be prepared to drive an NASCAR or F1 car round a track flat out the first time you stepped in it?
That's what I was getting at. It'd be easier to drive a CoT round a track at 50-75% speed than an F1 car. But when you start pushing 100% speeds, I personally think that the F1 car would become easier than the CoT, due to the aerodynamics, brake and tyre temperatures etc.
 
^It might be easier to drive, but it's also easier to make a huge mistake when at high speeds with a Nascar, or formula 1 car.

Downforce may make it easier to turn an F1 car at speed, but once the wing gets damaged or slightly off angle, good luck keeping it in line.
 
RufusGonePunk
So you'd be prepared to drive an NASCAR or F1 car round a track flat out the first time you stepped in it?
That's what I was getting at. It'd be easier to drive a CoT round a track at 50-75% speed than an F1 car. But when you start pushing 100% speeds, I personally think that the F1 car would become easier than the CoT, due to the aerodynamics, brake and tyre temperatures etc.
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Yeah but you have to get to insane speeds to get the benefits of the aerodynamic advantages.
 
For all you NASCAR haters out there, do me 1 favor if you would...On August 22nd there is a race at Bristol Motor Speedway. WATCH IT! Its a Saturday night race. The track is about a 1/2 mile or so but very very fast. Its like racing in a bath-tub. Short track with very high banking. Granted, not all races are as exciting as Bristol, but if you watch that race you'll kinda get an idea of what I'm talking about. Think like a driver and not a fan, because in GT5 your not watching the race but racing yourself. Its not as easy as you think. Open your mind and enjoy that you have the PRIVILEGE to play GT5 and absolutely no one will force you to buy the game. It is what it is...take it or leave it, its up to you my friend.👍
 
Bristol=Controlled chaos that is slightly out of control. It also produces great racing throughout the field. It also was the playing field to one of the best racing rivalries ever.
Terry Labonte vs. Dale Earnhardt.
Round 1:
1995


Round 2
1999

The 2007 race also produced a good finish


There are others, but I don't want to post tons of videos.
 
Where's the fun in those videos? Is it in hitting your opponents and making them crash? what a garbage. I'm not saying that it takes no skill but those videos of cars driving in circles are terribly boring. I just hope that playing it in GT5 will be fun.
 

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