Will PD Even Bother Making Another Game?

[Cayit]

Maybe instead of GT8 PD will come up with GT Sport 2...in few years.

 

[TheCracker]

I mean, why even bother? - They can string GT7 out now with DLC, like Rockstar do with GTA5 Online for years, possibly a decade or more.

Gran Turismo's future is clearly in the movies from this stage forward. There's plenty of source material available with seven more GT Academies to film. Then you've got all the possible spin-offs with ensembles etc. Just imagine Ricardo Sanchez and Johnny Guindi Hamui teaming up to conquer the Mexican NASCAR Stock V6 Series. The possibilities are almost endless.

 

[Lomic]

PD won't bother making GT8 because much has been made of the "game as a service" model

Have you paid anything more than the price of the game when you bought it ?

I am not saying in anyway that GT7 is perfect, far from it, but in terms of "game as a service" I am not under the impression that it is successful. But maybe a sufficient number of players use MTs to satisfy Sony and PD ?

 

[NAXEHT]

Online? I don't see how that's possible when the PS4 and PS5 still need to be supported. Unless you want to segregate the Pro users from the rest of the playerbase...

PS4 can get axed. The grid count really should be improved, to see 16 again when GT7 released was the biggest disappointment, bar none.

 

[Techlet]

PS4 can get axed. The grid count really should be improved, to see 16 again when GT7 released was the biggest disappointment, bar none.

When was the last time an ongoing eSports series just canned an entire platform?

 

[jergto]

Not sure how they can make another game, if you noticed, they only release games with cars mostly from the previous iteration. LOL

I think I read on here that GT7 had only 60 new cars.

 

[NAXEHT]

When was the last time an ongoing eSports series just canned an entire platform?

How long is PS4 supposed to be supported?

 

[BangsMcCoy]

Not sure how they can make another game, if you noticed, they only release games with cars mostly from the previous iteration. LOL

I think I read on here that GT7 had only 60 new cars.

And yet GT7 itself is “another game” despite sharing many cars with previous iterations.

 

[Techlet]

How long is PS4 supposed to be supported?

The lifetime of the game? PD chose to make a cross gen "live service" game.

 

[NAXEHT]

The lifetime of the game? PD chose to make a cross gen "live service" game.

I find it naïve to believe this decade old console is going to be supported until GT7 is dead when GT7 now is only a few months more than a year old. It makes very little logical sense.

 

[opelgt1969]

Which will come first, GT8 or Playstation 6?

Playstation 7

 

[Dave A]

I find it naïve to believe this decade old console is going to be supported until GT7 is dead when GT7 now is only a few months more than a year old. It makes very little logical sense.

Why?

They've already got the game running on PS4. They aren't going to start changing the game engine or anything dramatic like that, which might fundamentally change the entire games performance.

Other than the odd feature (PSVR2, for example), which can't work on PS4, I don’t see any logical reason to stop supporting the PS4 version of the game for its lifetime.

Theres no reason for them not to, They've got their money and made their sales.

A PS5 exclusing GT8 makes far more sense.

 

[Techlet]

I find it naïve to believe this decade old console is going to be supported until GT7 is dead when GT7 now is only a few months more than a year old. It makes very little logical sense.

Again, when did another live service online game kill off an entire platform (or in other words a monetization revenue stream)?

It's more naive to think that GT7, being a cross gen title, will have a long enough shelf life for this to matter.

 

[NAXEHT]

Why?

They've already got the game running on PS4. They aren't going to start changing the game engine or anything dramatic like that, which might fundamentally change the entire games performance.

Other than the odd feature (PSVR2, for example), which can't work on PS4, I don’t see any logical reason to stop supporting the PS4 version of the game for its lifetime.

Theres no reason for them not to, They've got their money and made their sales.

A PS5 exclusing GT8 makes far more sense.

Resources being put into keeping GT7 on PS4 running could be allocated elsewhere.

Again, when did another live service online game kill off an entire platform (or in other words a monetization revenue stream)?

It's more naive to think that GT7, being a cross gen title, will have a long enough shelf life for this to matter.

GTA Online springs to mind. PS3 version stopped receiving additional content after two years due to limitations in console capacity. Microtransactions became unavailable in September 2021 and the servers were axed in December 2021. This is an example that survived extremely long though, due to being an absolute cash cow on one of the most popular games of all time. The PS4 version is still online but is missing out on content being released only on PS5 these days.

One can also consider it an invitation to progress to the next platform.

 

[Dave A]

Resources being put into keeping GT7 on PS4 running could be allocated elsewhere.

What resources?

Resources have already been put into making GT7 cross platform and supported by PS4. If they simply stopped rolling out updates for the PS4 version, that wouldn't free up resouces.

If they did that and then re-optomised the game to better take advantage fo the PS5, that would in fact take more resources. As they already have all the sales and the game is already cross platform, the lowest course of resistance is to maintain the current situation.

I think you're overestimating how many resources it takes to release these updates for both versions of the game. Minus the rare PS5 specific features, the updates are identical.

GTA Online is an outlier and had so long outlived the PS3 it's not an apples to apples comparison. It remained updated on PS3 until a year after the PS5 launched.

If GT7 is still going strong and being supported by the time the PS6 launches, we may start to see developments being made to ensure it's longevity that make continued support of the PS4 problematic. But that will not happen.

 

[racedevil70]

Their will be a new gran turismo game that for sure but not anytime soon, and hopefully then we have sophy in career mode, i dont expect it before end of 2026 at earlist but as of latest maybe in 2027, no gran turismo game has taking longer than 5 years

What "career" mode? It's absent in this but wasn't in gt1-6.......i'm an oldtimer from ps1 era onwards to ps4 pro speaking.Will never get an ps5 until i have a 4k tv and ps5 games that's fun

 

[Ande3200]

What "career" mode? It's absent in this but wasn't in gt1-6.......i'm an oldtimer from ps1 era onwards to ps4 pro speaking.Will never get an ps5 until i have a 4k tv and ps5 games that's fun

Yes the career mode is a letdown but with sophy that could change but it might not be until gt8, i only have 1080p tv with my ps5 and game looks stunning,

 

[GlamFM]

I fully expect a current gen only GT. I’d say 2025, but what do I know.

I love GT7, but it’s clearly held back by last gen constraints.

 

[Monkey Man]

I think I read on here that GT7 had only 60 new cars.

That was a per-year estimate.

So 3 years = 180 cars, and so on.

 

[sonnyboychris]

They'll have to make a new game eventually because GT7 is clearly a cross-gen title. It's already been passed by Forza on a technical level, although PD's art direction is IMO superior. Granted, that's a subjective thing.

 

[Nathan88]

HFW’s DLC was PS5 only. Maintaining servers for PS4 players is one thing, substantial updates are quite another. Sony are in the business of selling new PS5 (Pro) machines.

I could certainly see a GT7 Spec 2 release dropping PS4 support. But at that point, assuming it’s a paid update, PD would probably just move to GT8.

 

[Techlet]

A PS5 only DLC for a singleplayer game is a little bit different compared to dropping PS4 support two years into an always online live service game with an eSports core.

 

[Dave A]

I could certainly see a GT7 Spec 2 release dropping PS4 support. But at that point, assuming it’s a paid update, PD would probably just move to GT8.

I couldn’t. That'd be lunacy IMO and you've pretty much answered why in your own post. There is zero need for PD to ditch the PS4 support in GT7. Outside of VR, there's very little difference between updates for either console either.

The PS4 isn't acting as a time sink and sucking up valuable resources. It'd take far more resources to rewrite GT7 to better take advantage of the PS5 and lose the parity that exists across consoles.

A PS5 only GT8 makes far more sense. It would also explain why we aren't getting new content as fast as PD have said themselves that they can churn content out. That's not a problem, it's logical for a developer to do that in this type of situation.

 

[Cayit]

I think GT8 will come come much earlier then expected because PD have realised that they SUCKED with GT7 !!!

 

[nickf1gr]

Here they are not catching up with a major title (GT7)
if a second one comes out in the process it will be very difficult for development....
I don't think so.
Only if they share the 'job' with other(s) developers

 

[KAlex122]

Of course:
1.) I think the next title will still be on PS5. Same plattform, in my eyes, should mean: less delays
2.) As soon as the sales go down they should double down on a new title.

 

[PJTierney]

Gran Turismo is historically Sony's biggest-selling first-party IP.

So long as the world retains an interest in cars, the games will continue.

 

[rmac923]

Yes, because money.

 

[Yard_Sale]

HFW’s DLC was PS5 only. Maintaining servers for PS4 players is one thing, substantial updates are quite another. Sony are in the business of selling new PS5 (Pro) machines.

I could certainly see a GT7 Spec 2 release dropping PS4 support. But at that point, assuming it’s a paid update, PD would probably just move to GT8.

I actually think a GT7 Spec 2 makes more sense. Charge $20-40 for it. Force a bunch of people into new consoles (which you and I have been advocating is Sony’s bigger picture end-goal, for quite some time now). The they get to make more money while taking their time on GT8…. which is exactly what they were going to do anyways - taking their time that is.

 

[Nakano219]

Yeah, the real money-spinner for Sony is the cut they take through all PS Store and microtransactions. The point of their AAA tentpoles is to be attractive and get people to buy a console for them, which gets those people into the ecosystem so that they then spend money in that ecosystem and make Sony money.

In that regard, GT is absolutely one of Sony's most important franchises, as currently a lot of the rest of PS Studios' AAA output is pretty similar to each other (lots of third-person action-adventure type stuff). So even if GT didn't sell that well (and by all accounts it's sold well and definitely has long sales legs), it'd still be important to Sony because it sells PS5s to the section of the audience that isn't into the standard cinematic Sony action-adventure, and those PS5s then make Sony money on further game purchases.