Will you go to XBone if Standard cars are officially announced for GT7?

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Will you go to XBone if Standard cars are officially announced for GT7?

  • Yes, I had enough of PD. This way I can play Forza and Pcars.

    Votes: 29 8.8%
  • No, I am still loyal to Sony. I'll get a PS4 and play Pcars.

    Votes: 43 13.0%
  • No, I don't care about Standard cars being in the game. I love GT, will still get GT7 regardless.

    Votes: 214 64.7%
  • I would love to go XBone for Forza but its lower performance compared to PS4 is holding me back.

    Votes: 8 2.4%
  • No more consoles for me, I will only play on PC from now on.

    Votes: 37 11.2%

  • Total voters
    331
That is true and you might have a point. If the game itself is not very good and many here think it does leave a lot to be desired as far as gameplay goes, then adding standard cars into that mix doesn't make it any worse. But that's in a GT6 perspective, comparing it to the current graphics and gameplay. I think most of us are hoping that GT7 will improve dramatically in terms of gameplay and of course graphics, and if that happens, the standards will be an eyesore for some.
We just have to wait and see what GT7 is going to be like with improve gameplay and of course graphics and other things as well. But who knows what standard cars are going to be like in the game. And I think all members here knows why GT6 was not that good of a game because it was rushed out on PS3 and it should have never had come out on that console It should have release on PS4.
 
We just have to wait and see what GT7 is going to be like with improve gameplay and of course graphics and other things as well. But who knows what standard cars are going to be like in the game. And I think all members here knows why GT6 was not that good of a game because it was rushed out on PS3 and it should have never had come out on that console It should have release on PS4.

It seems Kaz wanted to continue the tradition of releasing two major titles for every generation of console. That seemed to be the only reason GT6 was a PS3 release. A reason which is pretty ridiculous. I would have preferred it if GT6 was released as a PS4 game at the end of 2015. That way, PD would have had 2 extra years to set things right, and utilize the next gen tech to the max.

This is why I sincerely hope GT7 is a good game. I doubt it will be perfect, but it needs to be more the standard of GT4. That was a near complete experience, and one that we haven't been offered since.

It makes me wish that PD created a team of consistent GT Planet observers, take note of our demands, and send them directly to Kaz. If GT7 isn't what we want it to be, the only people we can blame is PD for not paying attention to fans.
 
Agreed, it is PR talk. It's funny that Kaz will want to keep one's favorite car in the game as... A standard..... Why should that be acceptable?

For example. The Toyota Supra RZ is probably among everyone's favorite JDM car, but it's a standard model. Guess because it's loved by many Kaz is likely going to keep it as is in GT7. No, that is not the reason. As @Fat Tyre mentioned above my post, it's because he want's to continue boosting up the car count, not because he want's to keep one's favorite car in the game. I rather Kaz upgrade a car I love or ditch it completely and upgrade it later in the future. I wouldn't want to see my most liked car looking like crap like the one below.
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Let's wait: Maybe the Supra may be upgraded to premium...
 
3. It is the quality we are complaining about, not the actual models. For example I would love to see a Suzuki Escudo Pikes Peak full premium.
Fat Boy I agree with #3. It's just because of the level of modeling. I dont get bothered by Standard cars except the modeling.
Agreed, it is PR talk. It's funny that Kaz will want to keep one's favorite car in the game as... A standard..... Why should that be acceptable?


For example. The Toyota Supra RZ is probably among everyone's favorite JDM car, but it's a standard model. Guess because it's loved by many Kaz is likely going to keep it as is in GT7. No, that is not the reason. As @Fat Tyre mentioned above my post, it's because he want's to continue boosting up the car count, not because he want's to keep one's favorite car in the game. I rather Kaz upgrade a car I love or ditch it completely and upgrade it later in the future. I wouldn't want to see my most liked car looking like crap like the one below.

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If PD doesn't hear us about that stupid Supra RZ, We will use excessive force on PD. We will have a riot on PD. We will be angry at PD about that stupid Supra RZ just like in Ukraine this year.
 
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I seriously don't understand this conflict between console owners. you realize it's only another $400-500 which accounts to the price of 8-10 console games. Just get both and choose the best games? honestly not a rocket science, I never understood: I don't buy X or Y console because I'm a fan of X or Y.
 
I'm not a GT-only gamer and Forza is the only Xbox exclusive that I want to play but I can't afford having 2 consoles. I might buy one when FM7 (?) comes out unless Kaz gets his s*** together.
 
WARNING: The following post is full of rambling and extensive detail. Keep track of your sanity levels in order to survive reading this....
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So, the recent interview with Kaz (on the news feed) suggests that GT7 will push the boundaries of graphics, AI and physics to the next level. Physics and graphics were kind of obvious statements, but it's nice to hear that AI will receive improvements. The damage is said to be a feature that will be improved as well, which I honestly wasn't expecting, but again it's great to hear.

I suppose when you consider GT6 is being run by technology that dates back to 2008, we can safely assume that GT7 will be a fresh start for the series on next gen.

So... let's list the things that Kaz is promising for GT7 so far....

Enhanced graphics: in other words, none of the obvious and annoying graphical bugs from GT6. GT7 should be the best looking game on the PS4, just like GT5 was on the PS3 (in my opinion).

Improved sound: In theory, the majority of the vehicles will receive sound overhauls with recordings of actual engine sounds.... The Audi Sport Quattro S1 Rally Car '86 especially needs this treatment!!!! :grumpy:

Increased AI Intelligence: Kaz has now promised the AI will be better in GT7. It better stay this way.

More Realistic Physics: The driving physics in GT6 are the best we've seen in the series so far. I honestly wouldn't mind if it was unchanged for GT7. But, if there's room for improvement (which is apparently the case) PD are unlikely to hesitate. We could definitely do with better car rolling physics. They're pretty shocking in GT6. When cars roll over multiple times, it's supposed to be dramatic... right? :rolleyes:

Better Damage: I'm not sure what Kaz thinks 'improved damage' is in a GT game, but we can be hopeful that cosmetic and mechanical damage will receive tweaks to increase immersion. Let's hope such a feature makes the single player too!

Extended Photo Mode Options: We should have the ability to be more creative with Photo Mode/Photo Travel than we ever have before in the series with GT7. Fingers crossed we will get a larger selection of more interesting locations for GT7. GT6's photo travel was simply disappointing.

An Even Bigger selection of cars: The fact that standard cars are staying, and that more premium cars are planned, we can safely assume that GT7 will only expand on it's already huge selection of cars. So, us GT fans are unlikely to be disappointed, unlike what happened with Forza 5 ;). But seriously, with more cars, consistency should be bettered as well. I doubt GT7 will be 100% consistent (with many cars lacking interiors), but upping the number of premiums will slowly but surely phase the 'standard' cars out. GT7's standard cars should receive some exterior upgrades, so they look satisfactory for the PS4, even if they lack interiors. PS2 quality cars will not be acceptable on the PS4!

Now let's consider the things that haven't been talked about much by Kaz regarding GT7.

More Tracks: Obviously, the track selection will be addressed in GT7. The question is, which tracks will make the list, and which ones will go? Hopefully, none of the tracks currently in GT6 will disappear. Just like the car selection, GT7's track list should expand, not narrow down. I recall GT4 having the most number of tracks in the series to this day. My hope is GT7 will surpass this, and give us more tracks we could ever dream of. Personally, I would like to see more original tracks from past GT games (such as Seattle and Midfield Raceway) along with brand new ones, more real life tracks, and a full scale return of classic rally courses from GT4. I was disappointed at the lack of any new rally courses in GT6.

Customization: I think the main demand regarding customization is a livery editor. I can see why. Livery editors for racing games have proven to be very addictive and interesting features, allowing us to personalize our cars, or recreate cars from movies or famous racing teams. I hope a livery editor is put into GT7. Though I doubt all cars will be compatible, it will give those that are are great personal touch, that will send the online community wild in creativity. Aside from a livery editor, I'm sure we'd all like to see more cosmetic and performance customization options. I doubt GT7 will compare well to other games in the customization department, but every little helps. A few things I'd like to see include engine swaps, window tinting, custom steering wheels and the return of horns (because everyone loved them in GT5 ;)) Lastly, PD should get rid of paint chips! In GT7 I should be able to buy every available paint in the game, without painstakingly collecting them.

Career mode: Nothing has been said about an improved career mode experience. I know GT7 is nowhere near release, but even now, this concerns me a little. GT6's career mode was not only short, but I thought its change in structure was a backwards step. Lets go back to GT2. That game had tons of events and great variety. GT6 does not. PD should recap on the events they came up with for GT2, 3 and 4, and use these as primary inspiration when piecing together each individual event for GT7. With the PS4, PD could easily make a career mode that matches/surpasses the length and variety of GT4's. Have the career mode split into categories for different Motorsport disciplines. From a Beginners category, to Endurance, Karting, NASCAR and Rally categories. In addition, licence tests should be made separate to the career mode events, like they were in GT games of old. Licence tests should consist of way more exams, and should be more challenging than they were in GT6. There should be a licence test for each category in the career mode. So if I wanted to compete in NASCAR events for instance, I would not only have to save up money to buy my own NASCAR, I would also have to complete the NASCAR licence test.

I would make more points, but I think that's enough for this post. If you survived reading this, congratulations! If you just scrolled directly to the bottom, I can understand why.... :cheers:
 
I'll be honest Forza has a much better car list like they just added a Rolls Royce for go sake but the physics on Forza aren't great I didn't like it at all, for physics alone I'm sticking to GT
 
I seriously don't understand this conflict between console owners. you realize it's only another $400-500 which accounts to the price of 8-10 console games. Just get both and choose the best games? honestly not a rocket science, I never understood: I don't buy X or Y console because I'm a fan of X or Y.

It's a war that's raged on since Sega v. Nintendo. You don't need to understand it and there's no point in trying. While other people are missing out on half the fun, you can be the guy with the best of both worlds. :)
 
It's a war that's raged on since Sega v. Nintendo. You don't need to understand it and there's no point in trying. While other people are missing out on half the fun, you can be the guy with the best of both worlds. :)

Oh it's raged on since long before that! Back when we got our first pc, 1974 or so, all pc's were proprietary. You chose your brand and you used their hardware, their peripherals and their software. Including the operating system, they had DrDOS, PcDOS, TRSDOS, a different version for each manufacturer! No, this definitely was not the good old days :boggled:
 
The days of me buying GT games regardless (majority of people from this poll) are long gone with the disappointment that was GT5. I still haven't bought GT6, so I may not buy it at all. Also I just am not looking forward to GT7 because I believe it will have alot of the same old problems as have plagued the PS3 era GT's.

Come on PD, deliver us a GT that does something best in class, right now it does nothing best in class other then quantity, much helped by using old assets.
 
Let me put it this way: What if you bought Madden 2014, and the stadium of your favorite football team was quite obviously just drag-n-dropped from Madden 2004? Then, to add insult to injury, half of the team was also rendered using Madden 2004 models, and the sound was using low-quality samples from the same game? You'd be pissed.

That's how I feel about GT6 still having so many cars and tracks imported from PS2 games, still using awful sound samples, still using the same catch-up races, and still using the same crappy AI.
 
You can have NO standard cars in GT7 and still you got to have a very good gameplay or it not going to be a very good game with or without standard cars in the game.
 
You can have NO standard cars in GT7 and still you got to have a very good gameplay or it not going to be a very good game with or without standard cars in the game.
Non-sequiitur buddy. The inclusion of standards or better yet, the graphical consistency of the whole game, is unrelated to the gameplay. Good or bad gameplay doesn't change my desire for graphical consistency throughout the game.

Let me put it this way: What if you bought Madden 2014, and the stadium of your favorite football team was quite obviously just drag-n-dropped from Madden 2004? Then, to add insult to injury, half of the team was also rendered using Madden 2004 models, and the sound was using low-quality samples from the same game? You'd be pissed.

That's how I feel about GT6 still having so many cars and tracks imported from PS2 games, still using awful sound samples, still using the same catch-up races, and still using the same crappy AI.
👍👍 Absolutely right, no one in any other gaming franchise would accept recycling old assets except through some kind of retro game mode, separate from the main game. If one doesn't have a high def tv or is playing on a little monitor, then standard quality doesn't maket make much difference. If you're playing on a 36-42" or better 1080P TV, you cannot possibly not notice the glaring differences, and those differences will be even more glaring on the PS4.
 
Non-sequiitur buddy. The inclusion of standards or better yet, the graphical consistency of the whole game, is unrelated to the gameplay. Good or bad gameplay doesn't change my desire for graphical consistency throughout the game.
You can have all the standard cars to premium in GT7 and have a gameplay like it is in GT6 and will not be a good game to play.
 
You can have all the standard cars to premium in GT7 and have a gameplay like it is in GT6 and will not be a good game to play.
You can have all the standard cars from GT1 and GT2 and have gameplay like it is in GT6 and it will not be a good game to play so let's throw them in too. You can have no cars and just bumper views for all cars and have gameplay like it is in GT6 and it will not be a good game to play so let's elminate car models altogether. See how that works?

Non-sequitur
 
You can have all the standard cars from GT1 and GT2 and have gameplay like it is in GT6 and it will not be a good game to play so let's throw them in too. You can have no cars and just bumper views for all cars and have gameplay like it is in GT6 and it will not be a good game to play so let's elminate car models altogether. See how that works?

Non-sequitur
If there were no standard cars in the game and you have a terrible gameplay well it is not going to be game is it.
 
I fail to see how having standard cars would effect the Xbone being a worse console for a higher price in an uglier case.

'Man, I hate this type of butter in my fridge, I will have to buy a new house.'
 
I fail to see how having standard cars would effect the Xbone being a worse console for a higher price in an uglier case.

'Man, I hate this type of butter in my fridge, I will have to buy a new house.'
More appropriately, as far at GT is concerned: "I have two types of butter to choose from, 1 has a lot of butter in the package and much of it is fresh and new but some of it is old and rancid, the other has a little less butter but it's all fresh from the farm"
 
I fail to see how having standard cars would effect the Xbone being a worse console for a higher price in an uglier case.

'Man, I hate this type of butter in my fridge, I will have to buy a new house.'

Didn't the Xbone drop down to $399 same price as PS4, and honestly Xbone the case really isn't that bad anymore once you look at it.
 
Didn't the Xbone drop down to $399 same price as PS4, and honestly Xbone the case really isn't that bad anymore once you look at it.
Sorry man but I've never been a fan of the company behind the xbox, the way they do business is not my cup of tea:ill:, Companies always strive for money, but how they go about business differs drastically.:gtpflag:
 
Sorry man but I've never been a fan of the company behind the xbox, the way they do business is not my cup of tea:ill:, Companies always strive for money, but how they go about business differs drastically.:gtpflag:

You think Sony is a Saint lol you'd be in for a rude awakening if that's the case. Everyone pulls shady tactics sometimes you can't see it, and others you can.

For me Microsoft is the type of person that you'll see the **** coming so you can dodge hence when they showed off Xbox One and Sony is the silent one they won't always tell you, but trust me there are shady things they've done.

For example the BC issue not going to go in-depth, but I know it's a tactic to get more money off people re-buying games in HD.
 
Sorry man but I've never been a fan of the company behind the xbox, the way they do business is not my cup of tea:ill:, Companies always strive for money, but how they go about business differs drastically.:gtpflag:
But you're cool with Kaz/PD/Sony torpedoing the GT6 game economy to encourage the sale of microtransactions and putting a garage full of classic cars out of reach of all the but the most dedicated grinders?
 
But you're cool with Kaz/PD/Sony torpedoing the GT6 game economy to encourage the sale of microtransactions and putting a garage full of classic cars out of reach of all the but the most dedicated grinders?
Where did I say that I support the sales of microtransactions?..I took advantage of the glitch....And who do you think started the whole microtransaction thing? Do you actually think it was Sony?...lol:gtpflag:
 
Where did I say that I support the sales of microtransactions?..I took advantage of the glitch....And who do you think started the whole microtransaction thing? Do you actually think it was Sony?...lol:gtpflag:
I didn't say you supported MT's, I asked a question. You have an issue with XBone and MS because of the way they conduct business, so my question is, do you have an issue with Sony/PD/Kaz for introducing MT's into the GT series and nerfing the game economy to encourage it?
 
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