WRC Modern Classics S3: Season 2007

[Nebuc72]

Only found out about this at lunchtime so squeezed in an absolute sprint of a run before the timer ran out.
Unfortunately bottled it on the second to last stage (not that I had a good run to bottle) by clipping a wall that jutted out from a barrier, knackered my engine and gave me a puncture all in one. Tried to finish it but I was so far off by the last stage that a DNF just saved me time.

Never fared well with tarmac to be honest so looking forward to Sweden.

 

[Cabelmania]

Started Sweden, puncture in stage 1, goody

 

[Belgianwaffle]

Amazing that there is only 4 seconds between you both overall after that much running. Incredible.

Only 4 seconds that result in 6 points in standings 😁

 

[RYAN]

Truth be told I'd already written off MC + Sweden as a Citreon win simply because of the high speed sections, I'm hoping (i.e coping) it'll be a bit more equal in Mexico + Portugal...

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Here's the run I recorded earlier on worn mediums, you could see the grip (and my confidence) disappearing in real-time.

Wow, that looks like a completely different car than I was driving. You do the setup or get it from elsewhere? All I did was lower the car. Seems I need to do some preparation first.

 

[Dreadmed]

Wow, that looks like a completely different car than I was driving. You do the setup or get it from elsewhere? All I did was lower the car. Seems I need to do some preparation first.

Nowadays I'd say about 90% are my own tweaks, simply because there weren't any veritable tunes lying around out there when I was driving the Evo for the '01 championship so I had to basically learn what affects what from scratch. That said, I do occasionally pick a tune out (if I can find one) and use that as a baseline if I'm struggling for inspiration.

For that stage in particular I don't believe I adjusted much more than you might've done (lowered height + moderately stiffened springs, adjusted gearing) as well as a 1, 2 clicks of toe out to help with turn in. I did a bit more prep work for the Turini stages as that's where I felt I had the most time to gain/lose, that was very much trial and error on my end. Opening the diff + more neg camber to help it through the tight stuff only to have the front end overloaded and understeer exiting said corners was the main issue I had to dial out.

If memory serves this tuning guide was linked on this site relatively recently, figured I'd reshare it if anyone else here is interested in DIY setups.

 

[Cabelmania]

Started Sweden, puncture in stage 1, goody

Better after stage 6, despite a singular roll in stage 4

 

[Darrenersmit]

Jeez, this game is so much tougher than dirt rally. Quite chuffed that I wasn't last after finishing stage 1 in Sweden though.
Some positivity to build on, despite losing my door and my engine has started to howl. Haha

 

[Dreadmed]

As much as I enjoy this game, it still has a couple very inherent flaws. This is one of them... start of S2, I'm sure there's a road there somewhere but for the life of me I can't see it! (I rolled over a minute into the stage)

 

[RYAN]

As much as I don't want to I'm seriously considering just going with the C4 out of necessity. Like I said before I don't get on with the Focus. Seems even more amplified on snow. Just cant keep it on the road, Its way too loose.

Or maybe to save some sort of face I'll give the Xsara a spin.

Tested the C4 and was still handily trounced by @Dreadmed on the First stage. God knows how further back I'd be if I was driving the Focus...

 

[Tool1312]

I like the Focus but the cockpit view is severely hampered with the position of the rollcage which really gets in the way

 

[Cabelmania]

Better after stage 6, despite a singular roll in stage 4

Finished it, and I rolled in some capacity every time in Lauksjøen Seriously, that stage can go to you know where

A shame for the puncture on Stage one, ruined everything from the beginning

Gonna skip Norway, so Mexico will be the next stop for me

 

[Nebuc72]

Boahhh game crashed in stage 4. Unfortunate.

I flipped in stage 1, and then whiffed stage 2 because I couldn't see anything (skill issue) - had a really good stage 3 and then was smitten by Odin for 4. Might continue for the stage leaderboards though, lot of fun regardless.

 

[Belgianwaffle]

Boahhh game crashed in stage 4. Unfortunate.

I flipped in stage 1, and then whiffed stage 2 because I couldn't see anything (skill issue) - had a really good stage 3 and then was smitten by Odin for 4. Might continue for the stage leaderboards though, lot of fun regardless.

Smitten by Odin... So funny 🤣🤣👍

 

[MagpieRacer]

Great turnout for round 1, and from the turnout it was @Dreadmed who stormed to a narrow victory in the Focus, ahead of the Citroen of @Belgianwaffle . @PickyReptail8 coming home in P3.
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Rank	DisplayName	Vehicle	Time	DifferenceToFirst
1	Dreadmed	Ford Focus RS Rally 2008	1:09:28	0:00:00
2	BelgianWaffle78	Citroën C4 WRC	1:09:33	0:00:05
3	PickyReptile87	Citroën C4 WRC	1:10:33	0:01:05
4	SeamanFlakes	Citroën Xsara WRC	1:10:45	0:01:17
5	RDA-JETS	Ford Focus RS Rally 2008	1:11:08	0:01:40
6	Irish_Fox74	ŠKODA Fabia WRC	1:11:25	0:01:57
7	Space_Wadet	Citroën Xsara WRC	1:11:46	0:02:18
8	MajorHobble	Ford Focus RS Rally 2008	1:11:54	0:02:26
9	GFnR_ItoSaku	Citroën C4 WRC	1:12:40	0:03:12
10	Hasnain282	Citroën Xsara WRC	1:12:56	0:03:28
11	CPFH74	Citroën C4 WRC	1:12:57	0:03:29
12	Sorinakkis	Ford Focus RS Rally 2008	1:12:57	0:03:29
13	Speedster502	Ford Focus RS Rally 2008	1:13:13	0:03:45
14	Matster2005	Ford Focus RS Rally 2008	1:13:45	0:04:17
15	Cabelmania	ŠKODA Fabia WRC	1:13:47	0:04:19
16	magpieracer48	Citroën C4 WRC	1:14:15	0:04:47
17	thewrathofwhat	Citroën Xsara WRC	1:14:31	0:05:02
18	miljan426	Citroën C4 WRC	1:14:40	0:05:12
19	nowthenfella	Citroën C4 WRC	1:15:37	0:06:09
20	lebowski2	Ford Focus RS Rally 2008	1:17:52	0:08:24
21	SolidNinjaSnake	Ford Focus RS Rally 2008	1:18:01	0:08:33
22	NebuCD	Citroën Xsara WRC	1:28:25	0:18:57
23	Ix_Morbid_xI	ŠKODA Fabia WRC	2:37:54	1:28:26
24	freyjadomville	Ford Focus RS Rally 2008	3:16:11	2:06:43

Championship Standings:

Rank	DisplayName	PointsAccumulated
1	Dreadmed	38
2	BelgianWaffle78	32
3	PickyReptile87	29
4	SeamanFlakes	27
5	RDA-JETS	26
6	Irish_Fox74	25
7	Space_Wadet	23
8	MajorHobble	22
9	GFnR_ItoSaku	21
10	Hasnain282	20
11	CPFH74	19
12	Sorinakkis	18
13	Speedster502	17
14	Matster2005	16
15	Cabelmania	15
16	magpieracer48	14
17	thewrathofwhat	13
18	miljan426	12
19	nowthenfella	11
20	lebowski2	9
21	SolidNinjaSnake	8
22	Liberal_PL	7
23	NebuCD	6
24	marco89IT	5
25	Ix_Morbid_xI	4
26	Z7K1	3
27	BergGunner	2
28	AscarXD	1
29	darrenersmit82	0
30	WRC Player	0
31	GOTMAXPOWER	0
32	MrSqualo	0
33	sinotov2008	0
34	Nikolakis1990	0
35	freyjadomville	0
36	Eddie_Estsidrz	0
37	maxfriedhoff	0
38	OwenSlavin3	0

 

[MagpieRacer]

Round 2 takes us to the first of 2 back to back snow rallies, with the 56th Uddeholm Swedish Rally.
Day 1
Service Park
SS1: Hof-Finnskog - 21.5km
Service Park
SS2: Knapptjernet - 10.5km
SS3: Ekshärad - 3.4km
Service Park
SS4: Hof-Finnskog 2 - 21.5km
SS5: Knapptjernet 2 - 10.5km
Service Park
SS6: Vargasen - 8.2km

Day 2
Service Park
SS7: Lauksjøen - 11km
SS8: Vargasen 2 - 8.2km
Service Park
SS9: Sunne - 4.9km
SS10: Sunne 2 - 4.9km

Day 3
Service Park
SS11: Lauksjøen 2 - 11km
SS12: Älgsjön - 3.4km
Service Park
SS13: Lauksjøen 3 - 11km
SS14: Älgsjön 2 - 3.4km

Total Competitive KM - 133.4km​

 

[Speedster502]

Finished my run in Sweden, was fairly pleased with my pace compared to Monte. That was until I saw @Belgianwaffle & @Dreadmed's alien level pace!

Somehow holding 3rd at the moment moment but am 3 minutes off the pace of the top guys 🤯

 

[Belgianwaffle]

What a nice battle again with @Dreadmed. This time No headaches about tyre choice: fresh rubber every service! Looking at the analysises, it's obvious we both made some mistakes left and right. But I'm happy to come out on top this time.
Another thing, I noticed by watching them is that in terms of topspeed and acceleration there is not much difference between the Focus and the C4. But that could have to do with the setups maybe.

The next rally is a very difficult one... Snow, but small roads like Mexico or Corsica. Danger lurks around every corner there 😱

 

[Dreadmed]

Finished my run in Sweden, was fairly pleased with my pace compared to Monte. That was until I saw @Belgianwaffle & @Dreadmed's alien level pace!

Somehow holding 3rd at the moment moment but am 3 minutes off the pace of the top guys 🤯

Looking back to my days routinely binning it in Dirt Rally, I'd never have thought I'd get to the point of being described as an alien!

What a nice battle again with @Dreadmed. This time No headaches about tyre choice: fresh rubber every service! Looking at the analysises, it's obvious we both made some mistakes left and right. But I'm happy to come out on top this time.
Another thing, I noticed by watching them is that in terms of topspeed and acceleration there is not much difference between the Focus and the C4. But that could have to do with the setups maybe.

The next rally is a very difficult one... Snow, but small roads like Mexico or Corsica. Danger lurks around every corner there 😱

Even if I'd been mistake-free it would've been neck-and-neck at best, you definitely had the edge here. That said Vargasen seems to be a cursed stage for me, I messed up horribly on the 01' round and I made exactly the same mistakes driving it again this time (F for the spectators at that fiddly right-left jump).

I did a run-down on the cars in the voting thread, the C4 and the Focus are not too far apart in that regard but I would hazard a guess that the C4 gains at least half a second per 45 seconds of full throttle (assuming relatively equal gearing) over the Focus, the Skoda gets dropped a bit more. As you say, it's not massively substantial but it has just enough of an advantage that the top times on the TT leader boards are dominated by it (and why there was a fear this would turn into a C4 cup 😛).

This was the one stage I recorded, rather peculiarly of the 3 passes through this stage it was this run in the snow/mist that ended up being the quickest (a lucky bounce off the ice bank notwithstanding):

 

[Belgianwaffle]

Looking back to my days routinely binning it in Dirt Rally, I'd never have thought I'd get to the point of being described as an alien!

Even if I'd been mistake-free it would've been neck-and-neck at best, you definitely had the edge here. That said Vargasen seems to be a cursed stage for me, I messed up horribly on the 01' round and I made exactly the same mistakes driving it again this time (F for the spectators at that fiddly right-left jump).

I did a run-down on the cars in the voting thread, the C4 and the Focus are not too far apart in that regard but I would hazard a guess that the C4 gains at least half a second per 45 seconds of full throttle (assuming relatively equal gearing) over the Focus, the Skoda gets dropped a bit more. As you say, it's not massively substantial but it has just enough of an advantage that the top times on the TT leader boards are dominated by it (and why there was a fear this would turn into a C4 cup 😛).

This was the one stage I recorded, rather peculiarly of the 3 passes through this stage it was this run in the snow/mist that ended up being the quickest (a lucky bounce off the ice bank notwithstanding):

I was really impressed with your time in the fog in Lauksjoen ... And expected to be beaten heavily in Ss11 and ss13... This stage is not my cup of tea.
Vargasen has some really big traps (and some wrong notes in my opinion)... How I pray for a mechanism to change the notes somehow 😁

 

[bozian]

Yesterday evening I also completed the last special stages of the Rally Sweden. A long rally with many high and low points. The speed was surprisingly good in a couple of stages and I actually had fun on the roads that I usually hardly touch in this game. To the guys in the top places: Respect for your combination of speed and consistency. There really is still something to learn!

 

[RYAN]

ugggghhh just suffered a weird glitchy roll on SS3.

Even embarrassingly for me using the C4 I was clearly behind @Dreadmed and @Belgianwaffle the first 3 stages but I would have been happy with 3rd as without practicing I can't keep up with the top pace. The roll just made me quit out at the end of the stage out of protest I haven't retired yet. I'll see if I can salvage the run tomorrow If I can get back on before 2.30PM

 

[Nebuc72]

Boahhh game crashed in stage 4. Unfortunate.

I flipped in stage 1, and then whiffed stage 2 because I couldn't see anything (skill issue) - had a really good stage 3 and then was smitten by Odin for 4. Might continue for the stage leaderboards though, lot of fun regardless.

One upped myself here and flipped 5 times in stage 1.
Xsaras long wheelbase just means any snowbank it touches gets it absolutely reamed round and once you're round you very quickly forget which shade of white is the sky and which is the ground. I only realise when the car goes DONK and a door flies off. It's unfortunate I don't have 5 doors.

 

[PickyReptail8]

Sweden! Well it was a bad bounce rally for me 😅 Almost every stage gave me somethin unexpected😅 roll,spin snowbank lunch 😅 But i missd practice so got what i deserved here 😅 Nice fight for victory for @Dreadmed and @Belgianwaffle ☝🏻
On to the next one 😉

 

[Speedster502]

Feel like Norway could be a tough one! Hadn't quite appreciated how tricky these stages are in comparison to Sweden. Will be interesting to see how many make it to the end

 

[bozian]

Smooth ride without mistakes until SS7, where I suffered a puncture in the thick fog and lost 90sec

Let‘see if I can keep the motivation high now for the remaining stages.

 

[Dreadmed]

Sweden! Well it was a bad bounce rally for me

About that, I just did a recce of Norway and, well:

Good luck to everyone getting through this one. 😅