WRC officially in Gran Turismo 5!

[Cap'n Jack]

Aren´t you guys a bit worried that PD making also a WRC mode will be a waste of time and effort?

We don't actually know how WRC (along with NASCAR and Super GT) will be incorporated into GT5. Personally, I don't expect to see separate modes for WRC, NASCAR, Super GT and whatever other series' PD may get some form of license for. I've just assumed we'll have the same championship layouts we've seen in previous GTs but with the actual series names and logos, rather than something generic like "Gran Turismo Rally Championship" or "Gran Turismo Stock Car Championship". But I guess we'll have to wait and see.

 

[chepe371]

Aren´t you guys a bit worried that PD making also a WRC mode will be a waste of time and effort? I was just checking some WRC 4 gameplay and man that game was awesome!

👍

 

[Northstar]

Aren´t you guys a bit worried that PD making also a WRC mode will be a waste of time and effort?

Probably won't be a mode, probably just a championship in the "Special Events" section.

Granted I wouldn't expect a full blown game within a game, but it would be a waste of money if they didn't put the effort in since they have always had the biggest rally cars in the sport.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Regarding the incorporation pf WRC into GT5, I don't really mind how they do it or in what capacity. It's a relatively small part of a much larger game, and can only serve to further enhance the appeal (unless they royally screw it up, which I doubt!).

 

[Rash-182]

Regarding the incorporation pf WRC into GT5, I don't really mind how they do it or in what capacity. It's a relatively small part of a much larger game, and can only serve to further enhance the appeal (unless they royally screw it up, which I doubt!).

I´m not worried that they wil screw it up.. it´s PD that we are talking about here. But i only think it would be much better to have regular WRC 5 instead of PD making a "WRC Mode" in GT5.

 

[TokyoDrift]

I´m not worried that they wil screw it up.. it´s PD that we are talking about here. But i only think it would be much better to have regular WRC 5 instead of PD making a "WRC Mode" in GT5.

That's fine, so buy both if WRC5 comes out as well! The thing is, it's not like PD have just thrown rallying into the series, they have had rally cars and tracks before. So, even if they simply give us a similar format to before, just dressed up with the WRC logo, I'll be fine with that. If we get some great point-to-point stages, decent co-driver speech, and championships that are structed and scored in the same way as WRC, even better.

 

[renzo42]

I´m not worried that they wil screw it up.. it´s PD that we are talking about here. But i only think it would be much better to have regular WRC 5 instead of PD making a "WRC Mode" in GT5.

are you aware that there is a wrc 5? it was released on ps2 titled "wrc rally evolved". An amazing game, and represents the wrc experience well. The physics system is a huge step forward from wrc 4. I recently dusted off my copy and started playing it again, itll keep me happy till gt5 and the new wrc title is released

 

[mr_VOLCANO]

Imagine a rally track like this with a good damage model and rollover I really hope will will see some real narrow rally tracks 👍




And please give me this legendary finnish rally track 👍

 

[chepe371]

A nice shot of the Tuscan "stage\circuit wtv" appeared today, however, it does not say much about WRC style rallying, as far as Point to Point time attacks. 3 cars on track, rallycross at best.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

3 cars on track, rallycross at best.

They may be ghost cars. Remember in GT2 when you could race against a solid-looking ghost? Given the way rallying in GT4 was received with its dodgy collision detection (you know, you'd get a penalty for hitting the other driver when it was the other driver that rammed you due to the lacklustre AI), Polyphony may go back to ghosting. Especially if they're trying to create an authentic experience.

 

[freshseth83]

They didn't look like ghosts to me, could be wrong, but it just looked like 3 rally cars at once. Hopefully it's point to point, then again it doesn't HAVE to be.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

They didn't look like ghosts to me, could be wrong, but it just looked like 3 rally cars at once. Hopefully it's point to point, then again it doesn't HAVE to be.

Didn't you read my post? I said GT2 had ghosts that appeared solid.

 

[paulpg87]

A nice shot of the Tuscan "stage\circuit wtv" appeared today, however, it does not say much about WRC style rallying, as far as Point to Point time attacks. 3 cars on track, rallycross at best.

same tought i had when i saw it.. really bad. i really can't stand rally cross and also why i hate DIRT.

 

[Raitziger]

And please give me this legendary finnish rally track 👍

If a one thing from WRC history should be in the game, it is the old ouninpohja from rally of the 1000 lakes (neste rally finland afterwards)

 

[Dave A]

A nice shot of the Tuscan "stage\circuit wtv" appeared today, however, it does not say much about WRC style rallying, as far as Point to Point time attacks. 3 cars on track, rallycross at best.

Just a few points, we won't know for sure until it's confirmed either way but just somethings to consider.

1 - There might be different types of rally events, some events where it's you v other drivers times, others where it's you and other drivers racing at the same time.

2 - This is just done like that for promotional material and nothing more.

3 - That the cars set off at intervals and the back two cars have just caught up to the front car.

4 - They could be ghosts and only look transparent when the player gets close to them if they look transparent at all, but you'd assume they should.

Any of these could be true, they equally might not be but we'll just have to wait and see.

 

[scope72]

Considering the history of rally in GT..

I'm of the opinion that if we get any point to point... It should be considered a pleasant surprise.

Then again, isn't this the first time they have had the actual WRC license? So, its more than possible.

 

[RACECAR]

Considering the history of rally in GT..

I'm of the opinion that if we get any point to point... It should be considered a pleasant surprise.

Then again, isn't this the first time they have had the actual WRC license? So, its more than possible.

It is the first time that they have had the WRC license.

 

[Raybrig100]

Yeah i was a little dissapointed at the 3 cars on track....


@ Dave A there is another possible idea, similar to your ghost theory, how about its online, cars all start at the same time but appear in ghost rather than solid??

 

[Skidmark]

Yeah i was a little dissapointed at the 3 cars on track....


@ Dave A there is another possible idea, similar to your ghost theory, how about its online, cars all start at the same time but appear in ghost rather than solid??

That would be a good way to implement point to point online. I hope thats the case.

If its three cars at once its just going to be a demo derby, the tracks will probably be too narrow to pass properly.

 

[chepe371]

A few things also, the E309 trailer showed the Ford rolling off the infamous Rally gates onto the "track\stage", which unless its just for eye candy, would support the notion of proper rally stages, which would support the idea of multi-ghosting, just like WRC does to show split runs.

Which would make one more than happy.

However, as rally lovers know, stages usually have much much narrower roads, and tracks like Swiss Alps have had ridiculously large road area, so it could also suggest that we might be seeing the same old GT Rally style, a "dirt" circuit with enough width to pass(urgh).

Arguments are strong on both sides, i just wish they really rape their WRC license for all its worth.

 

[Sidders]

If we are limited to the number of total tracks on gt5, how many or what percentage of tracks would you like to be dedicated rally stages/tracks?


I am really looking foreward to the WRC in GT5, but i dont want it to take anything away from the rest of the game.

 

[Jake360]

Maybe a whole Rally is a track, and the different stages are variations.

I'd be very suprised if we only have 20 locations (tracks) With NASCAR and WRC being included in that count. There wont be more than ten other tracks from the already confirmed curcuits. I think we'll end up with 40+ circuits including rally stages. Not long to go till we'll know more, i'm sure.

 

[Spagetti69]

I was under the impression that Black Bean held the official WRC license.

 

[RACECAR]

I was under the impression that Black Bean held the official WRC license.

Well to my memory, it was never said it was exclusive to Sony. Of course, I'm not so sure I'd trust Black bean and Milestone after seeing what they did with "Superstars V8"

 

[Raitziger]

I was under the impression that Black Bean held the official WRC license.

There seems to often a false assumption that only a one developer can hold a official licence at time

 

[Dave A]

Yep, there's a difference between holding a license and holding an exclusive license. Some licenses are exclusive, most aren't.

 

[trk29]

A few things also, the E309 trailer showed the Ford rolling off the infamous Rally gates onto the "track\stage", which unless its just for eye candy, would support the notion of proper rally stages, which would support the idea of multi-ghosting, just like WRC does to show split runs.

Which would make one more than happy.

However, as rally lovers know, stages usually have much much narrower roads, and tracks like Swiss Alps have had ridiculously large road area, so it could also suggest that we might be seeing the same old GT Rally style, a "dirt" circuit with enough width to pass(urgh).



Arguments are strong on both sides, i just wish they really rape their WRC license for all its worth.

I agree with you. The latest trailer showed several Rally cars on that track at once. But I am hoping for point to point.

 

[Spagetti69]

Yep, there's a difference between holding a license and holding an exclusive license. Some licenses are exclusive, most aren't.

That's good news. Blackbean aren't the best at Motorsport games IMHO.

 

[Raitziger]

Also WRC is not currently in a possition to be picky who they give the licence. (they need more crowds and TV contracts to compete with other motorsport)

 

[analog]

Also WRC is not currently in a possition to be picky who they give the licence. (they need mode crowds and TV contracts to compete with other motorsport)

And more manufacturers to make it interesting again, this certainly is a good time for PD to get that licence from a financial point of view.
WRC isn't one of the pinnacles of motorsport right now that it once was.
Just hope PD can keep the licence to themselves up until it gets really interesting again, at least we still have the cars ( not least the Group B classics ) to enjoy ourselves on those licenced tracks....