WSGTC 2 discussion

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Roll call for Test session: Friday 27th

GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)

Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50

GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)

If there's more people from gt500 than there are gt300, maybe someone could switch to gt300, someone who could be considering switching to gt300 next season. But then again there's more gt500s to test... we'll see how it goes anyway lol.
 
Well as I said, I have been considering jumping to the 300s. Now to pick one of the least used cars for in GT300.

Roll call for Test session: Friday 27th

GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50

GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)
 
Roll call for Test session: Friday 27th

GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50
OwensRacing (OwensRacing)

GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)






I know it's be asked before. Can we get the EPSON tested and in. Maybe added 50kg to all NSX's and balance to field from there. Love to run that car or see it on track anyway. Such a beaut.
 
I can't make it for the test this weekend, but i'm here for the weekend after for the series 1 finale.

Definitely going to run the is350 next seadon if its now competitive. Thanks aderrrm for taking the time to test and fine tune the cars, we should see much more variety in gt300 now! :D

And btw, gt500 might be the quicker class, but the gt300 class has just as quick drivers and we see some seriously close racing at the front especially - so maybe give the slower cars a try, don't just go gt500 because "they're faster". Just thought i'd mention the obvious, but it'd be nice to see some new faces in gt300.
 
GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50
OwensRacing (OwensRacing)
JPzer (JPzer) - not 100% sure yet

GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)
 
Ok, while we wait for the roll call to fill up (hopefully) until Friday, I want to start up another discussion regarding WSGTC 2. Or, I don't think it will be much of a discussion.
But I'm planning, or have pretty much decided that I'll throw in some PRIZE CARS! :cheers:

Overall winner: Any car from the NCD worth up to 1.000.000cr
Overall runner up: Any car from the NCD worth up to 750.000cr
Overall 3rd: Any car from the NCD worth up to 500.000cr
All drivers that make "the final 8"-round: Any car from the NCD worth up to 300.000cr
TOT prizes: 4.650.000cr

Complete 100% of the races: Any car from the NCD worth up to 250.000cr
Complete at least 8 out of 11 rounds: Any car from the NCD worth up to: 150.000cr
TOT prizes: Aprox. 3.100.000cr

Overall best team: Any car from the NCD worth up to 350.000cr
(provided by the overall last place team)
TOT prizes: 700.000cr

As you can see, the total prizes will end up worth at around 8.500.000cr.

If I have to, I'll supply all the prize cars. But it would be nice with a bit of help.
I got an idea for this as well.

Since top 4 from each class will make the season final, the nerve in the top of the table will be present thru the entire Championship. But to put a bit of nerve in the lower parts of the tables, how about bottom 4 from each class provide all the prizes for the championship completion prizes. The prizes handed out for competing 11/11 or 8/11 of the races. In this case, the nerve will be present for all drivers thru the entire Championship. How about that?

NOTE: I know that some might think "If someone only turns up for one race, and does not send a car in the end of the season or respond to PM's?". I'd say, if that's the case, the driver will be blacklisted by us (and probably the entire GTP) if he can't deliver what he signed up for. And if someone won't send a car as he's supposed to, I'll jump in and provide that car.

What do you guys think?
 
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1. Fuji F 175 km (mixed class/2 div)
2. Tsukuba 175 km (same class)
3. La Sarthe 250 km (same class) / Time/Weather
4. Nurburgring GP/F 175 km (mixed class/2 div)
5. Monza 175 km (same class) / Weather
6. Indianapolis Road 175 km (same class)
7. Nurburgring 24h 250 km (same class) / Time/Weather
8. Laguna Seca 175 km (mixed class/2 div)
9. Monaco 175 km (same class)
10. Daytona Road 175 km (mixed class/2 div)
11. Suzuka 250 km (same class) / Weather
12. Finals: Top 4 from each class battle eachother out in the Acura NSX RM​



GT500

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    chorda (Denilson) - car
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    Paginas (Paginas1) - car
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    nycrom (nycrom1971) - car
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    C-Falcon89 (CaptainFalcon89) - car
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    OwensRacing (OwensRacing) - car
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    Wardez (Wardez - car
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    GTP_monoha (monoha) - car
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    JPzer (JPzer) - car
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    M4Hwheel (otsdarva) - car
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    Joshua1994 (Joshua1994) - car
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    bkeveryday (bkeveryday) - car
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    UAE_ReDLiNe (UAE_ReDLiNe) - car
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    TKNiNJ (TKNiNJ) - car
  14. Scotland jimmy281090 (D-Max) - car


GT300
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    Moleman (Andil) - car
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    GTP_Aizen_93 (Aizen93nasty) - car
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    KamyKaze1098 (KamyKaze1098) - car
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    GTP_Senninha2 (competizione) - car
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    Jav122678 (Jav) - car
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    Doctsuru_69 (Doctsuru_69 - car
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    Scanny_Flick (Scanny_Flick) - car
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    Neomone (Imari) - car
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    GTP_Aderrrm (Aderrrm) - car
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    Shrugging_Atlas (Ultrap13) - car
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    SteelToedSloth (SteelToedSloth) - car
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    maximus254 (Genko_Max) - car
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    HortusIX (HortusIX) - car

Stewards
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    Paginas (Paginas1) - Steward
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    Moleman (Andil) - Steward
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    nycrom (nycrom1971) - Steward
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    Wardez (Wardez) - Steward
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    KamyKaze1098 (KamyKaze1098) - Steward
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    Shrugging_Atlas (Ultrap13) - Steward
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    HortusIX (HortusIX) - Steward
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    OwensRacing (OwensRacing) - Capable Host
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    GTP_monoha (monoha) - Capable Host
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    Joshua1994 (Joshua1994) - Capable Host
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    JPzer (JPzer) -Capable Host
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    Scanny_Flick (Scanny_Flick) - Capable Host
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    GTP_Senninha2 (competizione) - Capable Host


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RULES & REGULATIONS

Race Rules
*Your car must be modded as listed below! No modifications/bolt-ons unless it is noted.
Fixed tuning is allowed with stock parts (ie. trans, suspensions, brakes, etc.)*


DIAGRAM OF CARS, AND WHAT MODS/TUNES THAT ARE ALLOWED FOR EACH CAR

Tires: Racing Hard
Oil Change: Allowed
Engine Overhaul: Allowed
Chassis Restoration: Allowed
Installing Modified/Aftermarket Parts: Banned! (Unless it's in the list above)
Tuning (Suspension, Aero, Trans, Brakes, LSD): Allowed
Weight Ballast Tuning: Banned! (If forced upon you as a penalty, ballast is used)
Power Percentage Tuning: Banned! (It's only allowed for some cars according to the list above)

All cars must follow the list above as far as modding goes. The PP stated for each car is with it's AERO set to max. You may change your AERO, but your engine specs/Power curve/Power limiter can NOT be changed to make up for the PP lost due to reducing AERO.

Race Distance: 175km-250km
Mandatory Formation/Parade Lap: 1 (Nurburgring 24h and La Sathe will not be run with a full formation-lap)
Mandatory Pit Stop: 1
Damage: Heavy

ABS: Optional
Driving Line: Off
Active Steering: Off
Traction Control: Off
Skid Recovery Force: Off
Active Stability Management: Off
Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Tracks Edge: Real
Mic/Headsets: Off

*Do not buy any upgrades that are not listed/approved with the plan to remove/downtune it later.


Super Lap Qualifying

Qualifying will be held through live online sessions.

Procedure
  • A group of drivers per class will be given 2 laps to set a qualifying lap.
  • Laps will be run in 'Race' and will depend on track size. (Standard=2 laps)
  • Laps will be monitored and watched by fellow competitors to validate cleanliness.
  • The number of cars will depend on track size.
  • Once the race has been commenced, cars will roll on their warm up lap.
  • Cars must stagger a number seconds between each other to make room (about 20-30 seconds)
  • Standard '2 wheel on track at all times' rule apply (Check Post 3 for Racing Conduct 'Ch.IV Track Contact')
  • Once finished, spectators will declare if their competitor ran a clean or dirty lap
  • If a protest arise for a doubtful or dirty lap, the replay will be saved and checked.
  • If confirmed dirty, a timed penalty will be imposed depending on severity of offense. (Standard 5 seconds)
  • The process will repeat until we reach the limit of available drivers

NOTE: Any ballast forced upon you as a success penalty will not be used during the quali sessions. All quali-sessions will be with stock* cars.

*stock = A car that are moded/tuned by the WSGTC's diagram are concidered stock. Do not mix up the word "stock", as a completeley stock car from the dealership.


Rules regarding qualy-procedure:
  1. If a driver runs into ANY trouble during an official qualy-session, the session can under no circumstance restart.
  2. If a driver does not complete the 4th lap, and the replay file is corrupt, he runs the risk of not getting an official time, EVEN if the
    lap was watched and verified clean by a spectator. (It's VERY important that you end the 4th lap)
  3. If a driver disconnects during a session, he may reconnect and drive up to that point where he got DC'd. If the DC occurs while on the 1st (2nd lap) qualy-lap, he may restart and this time ONLY his 2nd (3rd lap) qualy-lap will be valid. The lap where the driver got DC'd counts as "dirty" with no registered lap-time.
  4. If the car that DC's has any form of damage, but still are able to reconnect and restart his session, that drivers must damage his own car to the same grade of damage that the car had just before he got DC'd.
  5. If a qualy-lap is "dirty", there are 2 possibilities.
    a. If a lap-time beyond any doubt was slower due to an "off track/dirty" situation, no penalty is given and the lap-time stays.
    b. If a lap-time could have gained any time what so ever due to an "off track/dirty" situation, a penalty of 5 seconds will be added to the lap-time.​



Qualifying Deadline: Friday 02.00 am CET / 01.00 am GMT and Thursday 20.00 pm EST / 17.00 PM (PST). The deadlines are Fridays (GMT/CET) and Thursdays (PST/EST) same week as race is held. Around 20 hours prior the race to give organizers
time to sort the grid, view replays find hosts e.t.c. Under no circumstance can a Qualifying lap be run after the deadline has passed.

Any of the Stewards or Capable Hosts, under the supervision of a Steward/Capable Host, can announce and hold qualifying sessions of their own.
No qualifying sessions can be conducted after Thursday (Friday, depending on time zone). Qualifying will be on hard Racing Tyres.



Setting Grid Positions on Race Day
We will set the grid by running a formation/parade lap. After the race countdown reaches zero, you must Hold your positions! DO NOT MOVE ONE INCH!. Remember your
spot from the qualifying results; as well as the person in-front of you and behind you.

Same class:
Cars move from the grid ONE by ONE. The Pole car drives up and parks about 100 m (300 ft) a head. (WHILE DOING SO, THE OTHER CARS DO NOT MOVE ONE INCH). When he pass the start-line, the next driver can move up, and so on. When all cars are in the correct position and are NOT moving, the pole car starts the formation lap.

Mixed class
GT300's will sort their grid positions first. While GT300's sort their grid, GT500's DO NOT MOVE.
GT300 cars move from the grid ONE by ONE. The Pole car drives up and parks about 100 m (300 ft) a head. (WHILE DOING SO, THE OTHER CARS DO NOT MOVE ONE INCH). When he pass the start-line, the next driver can move up, and so on. When all cars are in the correct position and are NOT moving, the pole car starts the firs of two formation laps. When the first lap is comleted, make sure to pass the parked GT500 pack with caution.
From here on, GT300's lead the formation lap, with GT500's about 60 seconds behind.

We use this procedure to make sure all cars got a decent chance at completing the race before the timer (max 180 sec) runs out. By doing like this, we also get final times for (hopefully) all cars. And penalties will be much easier to hand out.

With this in mind, follow the steps below:

  • First, you must remember your Grid Spot (Super Lap Qualifying)
  • Hold your positions when countdown reaches zero.
  • Cars will make their way ONE BY ONE upfront and roll as a separate pack.
  • Cars must roll in a maintained pace of 55 mph / 90 kmh
  • Field will roll double file (Single file for the Nurburgring 24h race)
  • Odd numbers will start on the inside lane relative to turn 1.
  • Even numbers will stay on the outside lane (Opposite side)
  • The Pole sitter will decide the Green Flag before the Finish line
  • You must maintain a minimum of One car length between you and the car in-front (same lane)
  • One car length is minimum, meaning it's up to you how large the gap will be
  • You must always maintain visual contact with the car beside you
  • You're bumper must not go pass the rear bumper of the car beside you, doing so can be viewed as a false start and a penalty can come as a result.
  • You must wait for the car beside you to accelarate before you do!
  • No passing before the start finish line! Penalties will be strictly enforced for false starts, illegal passing, and overall aggressive driving!


IMPORTANT: In case of a disonnect during the formationlap, the cars behind have to maintain their position, and can NOT move up the grid. Doing so can result in a penalty for breach of "jump start".


Diagram of an ideal rolling pack

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Real Life Example of a Rolling Start:




Raceday
Mixed Class: There will be 2 races held which will be split into two rooms. Each race/grid
will consist of Seven GT500 cars and seven GT300 cars. The top seven qualifiers for each class will
be relegated to Division 1, while the bottom seven will go to Division 2.

Same Class: GT500 and GT300 cars will battle their own kind. There will be only one room per class.
Top 14 qualifying times will make this single-room event.

Hosts: Announced 20 hours prior to the race.


Points System
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Point system:
Mixed class point system:
D1.1: 55p
D1.2: 49p
D1.3: 43p
D1.4: 37p
D1.5: 32p
D1.6: 27p
D1.7: 22p
D2.1: 32p
D2.2: 27p
D2.3: 22p
D2.4: 18p
D2.5: 14p
D2.6: 10p
D2.7: 6p

Same class point system:
01. 55p
02. 49p
03. 43p
04. 37p
05. 32p
06. 27p
07. 22p
08. 19p
09. 16p
10. 13p
11. 10p
12. 8p
13. 6p
14. 4p


Bonus Points/Race % competion:
Pole Position: 3p
Fastest Lap: 2p
Finishing race: All drivers will recieve points if atleast 10% of the race is completed before a DC.
% completion points:
0-9: 0p
10-19: 1p
20-29: 2p
30-39: 3p
40-49: 4p
50-59: 5p
60-69: 6p
70-79: 7p
80-89: 8p
90-99: 9p
100: 10p

Race Percentage Completion
Drivers must complete atleast 85% of the overall race lenght or he/she
will not earn a single championship point (bonus points is kept).
Points classification will move up accordingly. This means any D2 driver can
earn as much as finishing second overall.

Ballast: Succes penalty system
3 first cars from each class to cross the finishline will get a succes ballast penalty for the next race.
50 kg for 1st place, 30 kg for second place, 10 kg for third place.

Success penalties can only be removed with 20 kg at a time. And to be able to remove 20 kg, you need to miss the podium. If you keep hitting podiums, your success ballast will keep on adding up until you finally miss the podium.

Participation
To accommodate real life commitments (absences), only 8 races will be counted into your standings.
You can drop which ever 3 races you feel like.

Tie Breakers
  • Points
  • Wins
  • Podiums
  • Finished Races
  • Bonus Points
  • Race Starts


  • CONNECT TIME AND RACE TIME
  • ALL drivers must be in the room atleast 30 minutes prior the race. If not, you will be excluded from the race, and all drivers below will move up accordingly. We need to have 30 minutes to make sure that drivers have the time to change rooms/comming in from waiting lists.
  • All drivers must stay tuned of the situation 30 minutes prior the race by looking in this thread. If a driver is missing, a steward or the host for that race where a driver is missing will state that wery clearly in this thread. If a driver is missing in D1, pole for D2 will move up to 7th in D1, and the first on the waiting list will move up to 7th in D2.
  • This is a bit of a communication issue, and that's why I ask all drivers to stay sharp during the half-hour-mark prior the race to make the task as easy to manage as possible for us stewards.


Host Checklist

1. Setup the Raceroom atleast 1 hour prior race start (Connect Time).
*Type: "WSGTC ROUND x"
*Track for that week, set to 175 km. Round up the number of laps. And remember to add the formationlap as well.
*Race For Real
*Number of Participants: 14
*Mic/Headset: OFF
*High (Recommended)
*NOT fixed room

*Penalty: OFF
*Grid Start
*Grip Reduction on wet track/track edge: Real
*Damage: Heavy
*Race Finish Delay: 180 (max)
*Time/Weather on the enduros
*Bost: OFF

*542 hp limit (When the race is about to start, let the car on track in PP order. From lowest to highest, you can let the cars to track using bhp as well. If we change the method we are using, the possibility to cheat will decrease)
*1050 kg limit for races that include GT300's/1090 kg for races that only includes GT500's
*Tyres: Racing Hard
*ASM: OFF
*TCS: OFF
*SRF: OFF
*Active Steering: OFF
*Driving Line: OFF

2. Post Room Number in the thread

3. Make sure to have the sarting grid close at hand. It will make it easy for you to answer any questions regarding grid spots.

4. If a driver is missing 30 minutes prior the race, you shall post in the thread that a driver from D2/Waiting list can enter. If the "original" driver shows up after you have posted that a spot is open, you have to kick the "original" driver. If a driver states very clearly in the thread that he for some reason will arrive late, it's perfectly fine. But he NEEDS to make sure that the host for the race he is going to participate in knows. Throwing a way a PM as a compliment to the post in the thread is a smart move.

5. Make sure to save the replay.





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::::: CODE OF RACING CONDUCT :::::


I. Gentleman's Rule
Any GT300 car can use the entire width of the track, however, as soon as it is caught by a fast approaching GT500 car, the GT300 driver must hold its line and allow the faster car to go through at the first available opening. If for some reason the GT300 driver has been caught up in traffic and is unable to hold it's line, the overtaking car will flash his high beam lights to indicate that he is about to overtake. A driver that chooses to ignore the signal multiple times will be reported to the Stewards.

II. Passing
Who has the right of way into a corner will depend on the positions of the cars. If an overtaking car is fully alongside its competitor within or after the braking point, the rights to the corner goes to the overtaking driver. The car being overtaken must surrender the position and should not turn in to the other driver. Otherwise, if the overtaking driver is not fully alongside its competitor at the turn in point, the rights belong to the driver ahead, and it is the obligation of the car attempting to overtake to give the other driver room and do everything possible to prevent an incident. As we all know, peripheral vision is limited in Sim Racing so it is advised that you maximize the available resources we have, such as mirrors, track maps, and audio cues like engine and exhaust notes, to prevent incidents.

III. Defensive Driving
Depending on the situation, any car can be overtaken from either side of the track. You can defend your position only 'once' by changing directions. Anything overly aggressive like sudden movements (when the overtaking car is about to pass and is very close) or deliberately squeezing the car beyond the edge of the track or any other unusual change of direction are strictly forbidden. This is considered illegal blocking and any driver found guilty of using such a method of driving should be reported to the Stewards.

Driving down a straight and placing your car off or opposite the driving line far in advance before the braking point, forcing your opponent to take the outside line or a different line in general, is considered a reasonable strategy for defending your position. This counts as 'one move' - pertaining to the 1st paragraph above. Any more sudden movements right after will be considered illegal blocking and should be reported to the Stewards.

IV. Track Contact
a) Drivers must always keep 2 wheels on (or vertically in line with) the track at all times
b) The edges of the track are marked with white lines and are considered to be a part of the track. Gray/Concrete cobbles are part of the tack.
c) The Rumble Strips are part of the track; however, all surfaces with green paint, either beside it or be the rumbles themselves, are not part of the track
d) Do not hit any objects visible or invisible (eg. cones, barriers, walls, etc.)

In a situation where the driver goes off the track, and without prejudice to part (e) below, he may rejoin, only when it is safe and without gaining any advantage.
Also, if a driver unintentionally or intentionally leaves the track and gains a spot, he must relinquish that spot or he will be penalized.

e) Drivers committing serious mistakes repeatedly or seem to have a problem with keeping the car on the track would be reported to the Stewards and could result in penalties.

At any given time during the season, drivers are expected to follow these rules. Any driver who deliberately appears to break any of these rules to gain advantage at any stage in the race or the season could be penalized by the Stewards as in the case of 'Excistor' during the 2nd race of the preseason, when he deliberately collided with multiple cars, resulting into damaged cars and ruined races. 'Excistor' has now been banned from the series.




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::::: PENALTY SYSTEM :::::

Stewards have the power to impose various penalties on a driver if he commits an offence during a race. Offences include jumping the start, causing an avoidable accident, unfairly blocking another driver, impeding another driver when being lapped, or gaining an advantage by leaving the track. Penalties will vary depending on severity of offence. Stewards can impose time penalties, reprimand a driver, exclude him from the results, or suspend him from the next race.


I. Offences
  • Breach of the required vehicle specs and 'Race Rules' (minimum DQ)
  • Breach of the 'Gentleman's Rule' (minimum 10 second penalty)
  • Breach of Track Contact Rules (minimum 10 second penalty)
  • False Start (Passing before start finish of Rolling Start) (minimum 10 second penalty)
  • Avoidable contact resulting to damage (minimum 25 second penalty)
  • Hindering drivers from overtaking by changing directions more than once (minimum 10 second penalty)
  • Illegal blocking/forcing cars off track (minimum 10 second penalty)
  • Not relinquishing gained position/s after leaving off track (minimum +25 second penalty)
  • Rejoining track after an off without regards to oncoming traffic (minimum +10 second penalty)
  • Overall aggressive driving (minimum warning)

Any of the above can add up together resulting to bigger timed penalties and/or Disqualification.


II. Penalties
Specifics
  • +10 seconds to Total Time
  • +25 seconds to Total Time
  • +40 seconds to Total Time
  • +5 spots down the grid to next race
  • Exclusion from Results (DQ)
  • Suspension for 1 Race + Probation for whole season
  • Exclusion from the whole Championship


Breach of Racing Code - IV. Track Contact
Three Strike System

Strike 1: Warning
Strike 2: +10 seconds
Strike 3: +25 seconds (May depend after Steward deliberation)
Further track contact violations will result to bigger timed penalties and/or Disqualification.


III. Reporting an Incident
Issues must be first kept privately between the parties involved (through the PM system). If the said parties do not come to a mutual agreement, the issue must be escalated and reported to the Stewards within 24 hours after the race, otherwise, thanks to the crap replay system, penalties will not be given out or considered unless it is noted by the Stewards (If you are involved, it is your responsibility to inform the Stewards of your side of the story within the 24 hour time limit). Furthermore, if a Steward/s is/are involved in an incident, he/she will be excluded temporarily from the Stewards Committee.

Please disclose important information about incidents along with your report.
  • Lap/Time when incident occurred
  • How long did incident occur (approx.)
  • How many were involved
  • Who was/were involved

Deliberation Process
  • An incident is reported and/or noted by Drivers/Stewards
  • Stewards will contact driver/s in potential fault
  • After hearing both parties, Stewards will review the replay and give suitable penalties.

Enforcing Penalties
Penalties will be strictly enforced. They can neither be appealed nor reversed.



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GT500

NICE LOOKING TABLE


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NICE LOOKING TABLE



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"The rep-point system will not stay with us for this season"


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Galleries
[Link to the photo thread]
"We'll create a new thread in the Photo forum for each race where we can upload photos."

Race Reports
[Link to the race report thread]
"We'll create a new thread in the Race report forum for each race, where we can write down our own reports, and how the race went from each drivers perspective"


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GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50
OwensRacing (OwensRacing)
JPzer (JPzer) - not 100% sure yet
Wardez - Dependant on time.

GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)
 
GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50
OwensRacing (OwensRacing)
JPzer (JPzer) - not 100% sure yet
Wardez - Dependant on time.

GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)

Since it's a test session with a lot of shorter races, you can pretty much come and go as you please. But ofc, the best would be if as many as possible are in the room together. The amount of input for each tested car will be more accurate the more who joins.
The room will officially open up at the latest 19.00 PM (GMT), and stay open until we are done. I'd guess the room would be up between 18.00 PM (GMT) to around 23.00 PM (GMT). I'll probably open up the room at 18.00 PM (GMT) as it looks for now. I'll make sure to post the romnumber here as soon as the room is up. 👍

About the ruff WSGTC 2 thread: I'll update it further with the ballast system and with the prizes (as soon as we decide how to handle them).
 
GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50
OwensRacing (OwensRacing)
JPzer (JPzer) - not 100% sure yet
Wardez - Dependant on time.

GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)
KamyKaze1098(KamyKaze1098)
 
Denilson you should read people's posts better :P Previous page but nevermind.

Another idea for WSGTC 2: I'd be happy to supply prize cars so more people may be swayed to sign up. Something along the lines of... 500,000 (or less) car for finishing 1st in class, 250,000 for 2nd and 3rd - applies to gt300 and gt500. Then a 1,000,000 prize car for the overall finals champion in the NSX's.

I like your idea, although I would make sure you don't give out too many prize cars otherwise you're kind of devaluing the achievement of receiving a prize car.

And people who are at the bottom of the table shouldn't give out the prize cars. What do the winners get? The achievement of winning, and a 1,000,000 credit prize car. What do the losers get? They might be disappointed that they've lost, then they have to supply prize cars. :scared: People who race, try their hardest. If people have in their mind that if they lose, they will have to give away 1,000,000 of their credits, they'll probably try just as hard as if they didn't have to give away their credits. At the end of the day, the slowest drivers will end up at the bottom end of the table. If someone was a newcomer to online racing and wanted to improve their skills, I don't think that this rule would be very welcoming to them?

Edit: The new thread looks good aswell. 👍
 
You're right Aderrrm.. Must have forgot/missed your post regarding the prize cars. Sorry.

But about the prize cars: I can't see the problem with a lot of different prizes. It will help motivate drivers to participate. And in the bottom of the table, it's just a good thing to make the bottom 4 supply prizes. It will make the nerve ever present in the championship. I fail to see the problem it causes. And I hear you about the "first-timer" that shows up. But I don't think that first-timers should jump in to this league as the start of his on-line career. We aim much higher as far as race quality goes. And true knowledge how to race by the OLR guidelines is a minimum.
I'd like to discuss this further, and also hear from the others.
But I do have another idea to achieve some what the same thing. Maybee this one is even better imo.

How about every one who signes up need to send me a 1.000.000cr car as a proof they will stay commited? In this case we won't get any driver who just signs up and forget.
These drivers are one of the biggest problems we got at the moment.
When the season is over, I'll send the cars back to everyone who have participated at least 7 rounds.
And if this method is used, we can hand out less prize cars:

Overall winner: 1.000.000cr
Overall runner up: 750.000cr
Overall 3rd: 500.000cr

Overall best team: 500.000cr car/each

Completing 11/11 races: 350.000cr

Ideas?
 
KamyKaze1098
GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50
OwensRacing (OwensRacing)
JPzer (JPzer) - not 100% sure yet
Wardez - Dependant on time.
GTP_Senninha2


GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)
KamyKaze1098(KamyKaze1098)
GTP_Senninha2

I Think mauve i Will try the gt500 but not sure yet but count mé in.
 
Looks like you guys have a great series here.I would love to join but there is no way to make that afternoon race time consistently.

I have one question.Why isnt the Woodone Supra 03 included in the GT500 field?
 
Looks like you guys have a great series here.I would love to join but there is no way to make that afternoon race time consistently.

I have one question.Why isnt the Woodone Supra 03 included in the GT500 field?

Yes, I'm sorry, but we just can't move the races any later. In CET, we finish the race way past midnight all ready. I guess this is one of the biggest hurdles to pass as long as drivers from both sides of the Atlantic is signed up. And as it looks for now, the times we race are the best compromize.

Toyota WOODONE SUPRA: Since there is a lot of much more present models, that are also premium, we decided to rule out all of the standard GT500/JGTC cars. Another reason for this is that we are testing all models to be as equal as possible before launching the next season. And it would be impossible to test all the Standard and Premium GT500/JGTC cars.
We do got a few standards in the GT300 class. But we had to include them in an attempt to make the GT300 grid more diverse.

I'd love you to join us if you think you can stay for at least 8/11 rounds. You should think about it, it's going to be a great Championship in every aspect. 👍
 
I've always wanted to participate in this, so I think I will join for season 2.

I'll likely join up for GT300, as I'm probably not experienced enough to hang with the GT500 "bigboys" :lol:
 
Denilson. I have several level 21 tickets. Hopefully tonight I will the level 24. As well a 1000 ticket. So we could work on something where you have these backed up on thumb drive and the. Send them out to winners. Reload game save and have prices back for next race.

Research that cars a guy can get from these and decide the order they be gifted or random.
 
How about every one who signes up need to send me a 1.000.000cr car as a proof they will stay commited? In this case we won't get any driver who just signs up and forget.
These drivers are one of the biggest problems we got at the moment.
When the season is over, I'll send the cars back to everyone who have participated at least 7 rounds.

This idea's even worse! :lol: Don't take it the wrong way, it's just my opinion and there's a lot of us here. :P

Sure if you had to implement this rule, I would lend you the car. But for someone looking to join a new championship (not necessarily a newcomer as I described in my previous post), in particular this one, would join not knowing any of us and their trust in us might not be enough to lend us a 1m credit car. Realistically I think you would have less people joining us next season if you introduced this rule. The biggest problem I think we have is that the championship takes too long to complete and people forget about us or get bored, but obviously you know I think that already. :P
 
I see what Denilson is saying.


We need a global rep system. Maybe a GTP licensed drivers list. Where a group of known clean and fast racers operate the license committee.
 
GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50
OwensRacing (OwensRacing)
JPzer (JPzer) - not 100% sure yet
Wardez - Dependant on time.
GTP_Senninha2


GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)
KamyKaze1098(KamyKaze1098)
GTP_Senninha2
SteeltoedSloth

I'm heading out on a trip that day, but I should be able to stick around for an hour or two. I agree with Aderrrm regarding the lending of cars, I think it will hurt new people from joining.
 
GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50
OwensRacing (OwensRacing)
JPzer (JPzer) - not 100% sure yet
Wardez - Dependant on time.
GTP_Senninha2


GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)
KamyKaze1098(KamyKaze1098)
GTP_Senninha2
SteeltoedSloth
MÜLE_9242 (MULE_9242)
 
This idea's even worse! :lol: Don't take it the wrong way, it's just my opinion and there's a lot of us here. :P

Sure if you had to implement this rule, I would lend you the car. But for someone looking to join a new championship (not necessarily a newcomer as I described in my previous post), in particular this one, would join not knowing any of us and their trust in us might not be enough to lend us a 1m credit car. Realistically I think you would have less people joining us next season if you introduced this rule. The biggest problem I think we have is that the championship takes too long to complete and people forget about us or get bored, but obviously you know I think that already. :P

I hear you Aderrrm. But truth be told, I would much rather have a championship with 6 drivers/class that trust eachother, and stay comitted than just use an argument like "We need as many sign-ups as possible, and to make that happen we have to be loose in the way we run this championship", than have a list of 30 drivers/class where at best 1/4 of them will show. Just look at the roll call for WSGTC 2 that I started a couple of weeks back. I've not seen or heard anything from most of them since then, and when sending out PM's, I get reports that they are opened, but I don't get a lot of answers back. With this in mind: I'm leaning more towards the line that we should put demands on the drivers entering, since we put demands on our selves. By demaning things from your surroundings, you automaticly get a strong group of drivers which in the end will provide the best racing/championship. And if this demands from WSGTC will push a way a sertain type of entrants, I'm not the one who actually cares, since drivers who sign up, but don't stay commited does'nt help the championship at all, it's more of a hassle to PM everybody all the time to try and get them to race.

But I'm a guy with selfcritisism, and I do see that since I'm the Admin for this series, I might look at it in another way than others. Since I put a lot of effort in to this, I want the drivers that participate to do that as well. But I do understand that it's impossible to demand that kind of commitment as me, you, and a few others put in to this championship. And this is the part where my selfcritisism shows. If I did not got that, I'd not even discuss some of this matters as far as demanding sacrifices from the participators (my surroundings). So by forcing the entrants to send me a 1.000.000cr car (That I will send back when their part is fulfilled (participating in at least 7/11 races) ) is not that big of a deal when you look at the whole picture. We've also been around here for quite some time, and a lot of members here know about us. So the part about not trusting us would'nt be that big of a problem (I hope). :scared:
I'm sure most of the guys interested in this series trust at least one of the Stewards around here, so if he does'nt want to send me the car, send it to a steward you recognize/trust.

To sum it up: I've dealt with groups my entire life in different ways. And one thing that I know for sure is that by putting demands on eachother is a fundamental tool to keep a group together, and aim for tha same goal. The goal in this case is to get a solid group of drivers to the championship that we know will stay commited, and that in the end will provide us with the best racing along with the best possible participation over the ENTIRE championship. And if we put demands on the participators, participators can ofc put demands on us. That's the way a group should work, even if the group hangs out on a forum, and not in an office/locker room/class room..

To just hold sign-ups completeley open will only drag half commited drivers to us. Look at it as a commercial. If you put up big signs "Come to us and by this car, the best in the world for only 19.99$", and on the other hand you got the Ferrari dealer that does'nt put up big signs at all. Yes, most people will by the 19.99$ car, but the most commited will buy the Ferrari despite it's much bigger price tag, and less commercial efforts. Howcome a small group of people still ends up in a Ferrari? Well, the shere commitment and sacrifice they have to give up to actually buy that Ferrari will make them get so much mor in return.
My aim is not to start a championship thread with the most posts or most participators, my aim is to create a championship where a solid and skilled group will race eachother the entire season. The ones who are up for it will get a lot of joy out of it, and the much bigger group that don't think they will get enough joy per commitment spent, will end up buying the 19.99$ car instead. Not saying that either choice is bad. Just saying what kind of drivers/personalities I'm searching for.

MULE_9242: Hi, and nice to have you here. 👍
Actually, the "big boys" is mostly in the GT300's if you ask me. GTP_Aderrrm, Moleman, GTP_Senninha2, Neomone (Hope he returns), KamyKaze1098 and a few more are extremely good drivers. Ok, there is a bunch in the GT500's as well, but the numbers of seriously fast drivers is bigger in the GT300 class if you ask me. Unfortenutly, we had some issues with low GT300 participation during the later part of the first season. Not saying that you should switch class. GT300's need more drivers at the moment. So you picking tha GT300 class is more than welcome. 👍

And since you are new here and all, I want to ask you a question:
Would you be up for sending me (Admin), or any of the stewards a 1.000.000cr car as a proof that you'll stay commited. And you'll get the car back as soon as you've participated in 7/11 rounds?
 
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MULE_9242: Hi, and nice to have you here.
Actually, the "big boys" is mostly in the GT300's if you ask me. GTP_Aderrrm, Moleman, GTP_Senninha2, Neomone (Hope he returns), KamyKaze1098 and a few more are extremely good drivers. Ok, there is a bunch in the GT500's as well, but the numbers of seriously fast drivers is bigger in the GT300 class if you ask me. Unfortenutly, we had some issues with low GT300 participation during the later part of the first season.

And since you are new here and all, I want to ask you a question:
Would you be up for sending me (Admin), or any of the stewards a 1.000.000cr car as a proof that you'll stay commited. And you'll get the car back as soon as you've participated in 7/11 rounds?

I honestly have no problem with sending you something like my Enzo, or whatever 1,000,000 credit car I have. The one thing I'm not sure about is:

If I send the car, and something comes up where I'm forced to withdraw before race 7, would I get the car back?


And as for my "big boys" comment, I'm still not all that familiar with people outside of the series' that I've taken a part in, so I guess I'll take your word for it. :lol:
 
MÜLE_9242;5356659
I honestly have no problem with sending you something like my Enzo, or whatever 1,000,000 credit car I have. The one thing I'm not sure about is:

If I send the car, and something comes up where I'm forced to withdraw before race 7, would I get the car back?


And as for my "big boys" comment, I'm still not all that familiar with people outside of the series' that I've taken a part in, so I guess I'll take your word for it. :lol:

Since you need to attend to at least 7 out of 11 races, the possibility for you to drop 4 rounds are always there for you to use whenever you need to. With this in mind, you could "drop out" after race 6, but show for race 11 and still get your car back.
But I hear you about withdrawl from the championship. If you really have to, and are unable to participate in 7 out of 11 rounds, I'd like a solid explenation thru PM about why. If the expenation is good enough, I'll send you the car back.
And by "good enough", I meen a reasonable explenation. It's not like it have to be something about a hospital or anythin. Just a reasonable one, and I'll be happy to return your car. But if you just dissapear from the championship, and I get a PM when the season is over about you wanting your car back, I'd most likeley not send it back to you.

This is a sensitive part of the sign-up procedure, and I'll make sure to state clearly in the OP what rules and obligations that regards the 1.000.000cr car.
(If we decide to go that route ofc)
 
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How about every one who signes up need to send me a 1.000.000cr car as a proof they will stay commited? In this case we won't get any driver who just signs up and forget.
These drivers are one of the biggest problems we got at the moment.
When the season is over, I'll send the cars back to everyone who have participated at least 7 rounds.

Is this really necessary?:lol:

You know you can backup your save file, send the car and reload the backup save file, so what's the point?:confused:

Well, you will get a lot of cars...
 
Is this really necessary?:lol:

You know you can backup your save file, send the car and reload the backup save file, so what's the point?:confused:

Well, you will get a lot of cars...

The point is that if you give something away, you'll get it back when you've participated in at least 7 rounds.

Yes, you can duplicate as many cars as you'd like. I can't do anything about it. And my guess would be that all of us got quite many 1.000.000cr cars in our garages. It's not the actual car that one lose if less than 7 rounds are completed, it's more a way to proove that you'll stay commited. It will remove some of the "sign-up and leave"-persons. That, I'm positive of.

And if a few drivers duplicate the car they send just to stay for 1 round are happy with that, so be it. In this case, I at least got a few prize car to give to the winners instead of buying them myself. See my point?
 
The point is that if you give something away, you'll get it back when you've participated in at least 7 rounds.

Yes, you can duplicate as many cars as you'd like. I can't do anything about it. And my guess would be that all of us got quite many 1.000.000cr cars in our garages. It's not the actual car that one lose if less than 7 rounds are completed, it's more a way to proove that you'll stay commited. It will remove some of the "sign-up and leave"-persons. That, I'm positive of.

And if a few drivers duplicate the car they send just to stay for 1 round are happy with that, so be it. In this case, I at least got a few prize car to give to the winners instead of buying them myself. See my point?

Which color do you want your car? road or race?:D
 
GT500
chorda (Denilson)
joshua1994 (joshua1994)
Goruk77 (Goruk77)
Paginas1 (Paginas) - 50/50
OwensRacing (OwensRacing)
JPzer (JPzer) - not 100% sure yet
Wardez - Dependant on time.
GTP_Senninha2


GT300
Aderrrm (GTP_Aderrrm)
Otsdarva (MH4wheel)
KamyKaze1098(KamyKaze1098)
GTP_Senninha2
SteeltoedSloth
MÜLE_9242 (MULE_9242)
ultrap13 (Shrugging_Atlas)
 
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