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X1 Prototype- WOW!
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SuperShouden
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I remember that bike from PGR4. It had a slow start up as the Turbine warmed up, but once it got going, it was FAST!
And the Dodge Tomahawk can hit supposedly hit 400mph, but it's a Viper V10 on wheels. The X1 is a Twin Turbo V6...that pulls more than twice the G's than the Space Shuttle leaving orbit. You'd need to be be a fighter pilot or an astronaught to actually drive this thing in real life.
A normal Race car only pulls maybe 2 G's when accelerating. Can you imagine signing up for a team and they tell you, "Well, you'll need to sign up for the NASA space program before you can race with us."
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Well spotted! It seems the general shape and design of the car have carried over, but the back-end has been more-or-less revamped - not only the fan, but the diffuser and other under-body parts, the wells between the rear wheels, the rear wing design etc.
Also, has anybody seen the kick-ass wing-"mirrors" yet?
Does Vettel have legs, does not look like there is any room for a pair of legs!!
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F1 cars on certain tracks (like Suzuka) can hit 5 Gs on corners.
SuperShouden
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Yes, in the corners. Not accelerating. That's what I was talking about. And if the X1 pulls 8 G's pulling away from the line, the G's in the corners are probably enough to toss you out of the cockpit if it wasn't enclosed. I would probably say around 10-11G's. You'd probably need life insurance and would probably have to sign a waver to drive it, 'cause if you were a normal human being, the acceleration could kill you and the corners could kill you...So, think of racing the X1 as racing in a REALLY FAST coffin.
To put the acceleration of the X1 (and Y2K Superbike) into context the Suzuki Hayabusa takes 16 seconds to get to 186mph and that's damn fast. Anyone know how quick an F1 car gets to 200mph?
SuperShouden
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It wasn't designed to be good looking, it was designed to be VERY fast. I can't wait to see the record laps for this car. Top Gear Test Track in 30 seconds?
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Well of course they are achievable in real life. There are real cars that make this bike seem slow in comparrision. Top Fuel funny car for example 0-300+ in the wink of an eye almost. Good luck in the corners.That's exactly right, it has a helicopter turbine engine driving the rear wheel through a 2 speed transmission and does 0-200mph in 5.4 seconds which is 0.5 seconds faster than the X1, I was just posting to show the acceleration figures are achievable in real life even though they are almost unbelievable. You'll see from my comments on the previous page I think the X1 will have a separate turbine engine for the fan
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Not any less leg room than a current F1 car offers though.
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Yeah, I think going through T1 and into T2, they can generate up to 5G's. 130R, correct me if I'm wrong, is only around 3-4 lat. G.
Haha, I guess its the angle of the pic. His feet/pedals will probably be right behind the front-axle, similar to F1 cars.
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The Renault F1 car went around in 59 seconds, so this will probably go around in 45 or so.
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If you read the text, the X1 has a maximum cornering of 8.5g, that's not the acceleration number.
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The 8.25 G figure is indeed for acceleration (that's what G means) but not in a straight line due to the engine. Yes, that figure was calculated based on the tyre grip and downforce levels, but it's therefore a theoretical maximum that is easier achieved by cornering at very high speed, not by gunning the engine.
I'm sure most high-level professional racing drivers have life insurance, and nobody would sign a waiver to drive this car - it's not military
It was designed with the abilities of the human body in mind; if fighter pilots can do it, then there's no reason (the select few) racing drivers can - that's already what happens with F1, they'd just need to train a bit harder for the X1!
EDIT: Yeah, too slow...
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^True the human body is at its limit in supersonic airtravel, especially the lateral Gs experienced in modern fighter jets. But, just as these pilots wear special G-suits to counteract the gravitation effects on the human body's blood flow, I would expect for this car to exist in the real world, a similar G-suit would be needed by it's driver. Even the G-forces experienced by present Indy Car drivers when racing on certain ovals (Texas Moter Speedway, ex) bring the drivers to the edge of black-outs. Some have even commented on the illness they feel after 2-3 hours of these almost constant Gs.
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New dynamic chase cam? Looks great! At 1:46 in the new trailer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eM5oKB4Ng4
Or maybe it's just off-screen camera creating all the movement?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eM5oKB4Ng4
Or maybe it's just off-screen camera creating all the movement?
shirakawaa
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I think that is simply a ghost replay seen from behind.
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Looks like a ghost car to me.
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Even with super soft tires, unless it's got ginormous rear slicks on rubber coated asphalt, how do you put enough power down to pull anything close to 9 Gs. The car weighs about 500 kilos or so... I think it would just spin the tires...
EDIT: even during cornering, I think about 9 g is about the limit a human body can handle. I wonder if the driver will experience head aches...
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Absolutely, I can see G-suits or pressure suits (or whatever) being a necessity for this car. Quite insane, when you think about it!
I imagine B-Spec Bob might complain a bit in this thing; watch his "physical" meter plummet after a couple of laps
SuperShouden
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Turning at nearly 9G's would suck much worse than accelerating at 9G's. Accelerating in a straight line, you have the seat for support, turning, you're being tossed against the side of the car and you have centripetal force. It would still be a VERY unpleasant ride and you'd still need an oxygen supply to drive it at those forces. A fighter pilot would probably be the best driver for the X1. I think an F1 driver might survive, but he'd be queezy and hurting after a couple laps.
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True, but an F1 driver of 40 years ago would struggle in modern F1 cars even at their peak; they just didn't (need to) train anywhere near as much.
The X1 represents a similar step up from current F1 as modern F1 does from the F1 of 40-odd years ago! Basically, "X1 drivers" would be a new breed of driver, just as the modern F1 boys are.
SuperShouden
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Right. 'Cause at those forces, driving a 500 mile race in the X-1 would essentially be like doing a 1000miles, since the car is pulling twice the G's. Even with a G-suit, you'd probably be sore and woozy at the end. I would suspect that there would be driver changes if the X1 were to actually race.
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Wouldn't a jet fighter pilot be up to the job. I mean the Gs they pull.
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G Suits are to prevent blood going to your feet, jets only do significant Gs in the vertical direction.
Not sure how a G Suit would stop the lateral forces making your blood flow pile up in one half of your brain
If blood flowing left and right per turn isn't much of a problem, something to heavily support and protect your neck would be the main thing they need.
Not sure how a G Suit would stop the lateral forces making your blood flow pile up in one half of your brain
If blood flowing left and right per turn isn't much of a problem, something to heavily support and protect your neck would be the main thing they need.
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G Suits are to prevent blood going to your feet, jets only do significant Gs in the vertical direction.
Not sure how a G Suit would stop the lateral forces making your blood flow pile up in one half of your brain
Yeah, this just occurred to me too... Maybe the suit can pressurise individual limbs / sides of the body
Quite the challenge for long distances. Mind you, the ground effect cars of the 70s were apparently already taking their toll on the drivers, hence the technology being banned. Maybe the X1 would only be suitable for sprint races, rather than the typical F1 / GT distances. Or driver swaps, as SuperShouden says.
