Super GT/JGTC Shootout - 07/06 - Shootout Officially Finished!

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Nascar, Thanks for testing our Gt300 entry. You are right inline with my best times in testing this car so I feel really good about that. I know you drive with a DS3 as do I so I am very egar to see if the wheel drivers can post an even faster time. I always use this car for HP races online but never for a PP race. PP penalizes this car really bad.

I would like to hear something negative if you do have something though because I know the car has to have something that u didn't like.

Again Thanks for the Test.
 
I'm closer to the top times than I expected. I thought the 4WD would penalize me on the straights too much to make it anything close to competitive. I did set second gear a bit short to encourage the rear to slide around the first and last corners since you rarely need to use second at Fuji.

As for the tie with Onboy, I think the faster car should get priority. :sly:

Gotta wait for CSLACR times, boys. If it doesn't feel good enough to knock you guys off, then I put Roj in 5th and Onboy falls.

Thanks for testing the car. It is turnig out to be better then I thought. I was just going for ease of drive, but it seems to be rather fast as well 👍

Easy and fast. That's a really slick combo you done.

Nascar, Thanks for testing our Gt300 entry. You are right inline with my best times in testing this car so I feel really good about that. I know you drive with a DS3 as do I so I am very egar to see if the wheel drivers can post an even faster time. I always use this car for HP races online but never for a PP race. PP penalizes this car really bad.

I would like to hear something negative if you do have something though because I know the car has to have something that u didn't like.

Again Thanks for the Test.

For real? Nothing negative. I would have typed if I had found something negative.
 
I've just realised something.

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Why is this car not in the game. I wanted to use it. For this shootout.

HATSUNE MIKU! :lol:
 
I've just realised something.

*snip*

Why is this car not in the game. I wanted to use it. For this shootout.

HATSUNE MIKU! :lol:

Maybe GT6 will add the ability to make custom livery, so we can finally become "The Real Stick-A-Waifu-On-Your-Car Simulator" just like Forza. :lol:
 
Just realized I didn't have MotorCityHami on my friends list, so I've sent off a request to him. Still wating for CSLACR... :odd:

And.. more results! Plus a correction - Desperado's time was a 1:40.214 not .246 (hastily typed from memory last night just before running out to catch a movie.)
 
NascarManiaco
*XDesperado67 Autobacs Garayia '03:**Very stable. No understeer or oversteer. Holds it's lane pretty well and it's very calm, forgiving car. Nice acceleration out of the turns and a good final speed at the end of the long straight.
Time: 1:45.701
Thanks for the test and kind words, wondering though what held it back since Onboy's is a half second faster despite apparently being a bit tougher to drive...
 
I'm probably going to be able to test with GTP_CSL for the most part, but add CSLACR cuz I know there's room there, and I can drive a couple from there.👍
 
Updated the GT300 list with CSLACR feedback. The Celica's pull a 1-2 in the GT300!!

All I can say is wow, p63 told me that looking at the tunes CSL could prob beat me by less than .5 (depending on the tester) because my tune was more on the safe side. My wow is because of CSL's car and because just by looking at the tunes the time can be called out like that.
 
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CSLACR - '03 Toyota Celica: 1:42.767
I personally think this tune is better online, it has some not-quite-resolved issues between lifting and getting back on throttle, but still works nicely.

GeeBaby/Praiano - '03 Toyota Celica: 1:43.111
Disappointing amount of under-steer, it's very planted with lots of grip, just can't go faster than the front tires will take it.

krenkme - '06 Asparadrink RX-7: 1:43.825
Another great feeling car, tad bit of exit over-steer in the suspension, but a loose enough lsd it was just lovely. Exiting at full throttle dipping a wheel into the inside grass without lifting or changing steering angle is a phenomenal feeling. :)

Onboy123 - '03 Garaiya: 1:43.838
Fun car, not incredibly unlike Despy's, a bit of over-steer on entry and exit, but fabulous mid-corner, a little twitchy to nail down a solid lap, but certainly quick when you get it right.
TOO MUCH POWER *301* - I fixed it for my run, but...

JackThalad - '06 Asparadrink RX-7: 1:43.998
Very nice, not unlike other RX7's, but a bit of over-steer on trail-braking made it difficult to really nail a lap.

TrackRipper/Ziz528 - '03 Subaru: 1:44.261
A little under-steer prone, gears quite short, though I didn't check if the power band tapers off or not, easy to drive and a good time for the car.

VTiRoj - '08 Impreza: 1:44.445
Really nice car to drive, probably the best I've driven from you to date, a slight will to over-steer under braking, countered by a slight push provided by hard downshifting pretty much canceled out to "very nice", a bit mid-corner push, perfect on exits. I was literally talking and looking away through the final sector driving this car, and I didn't screw up.👍

ugabugaz - '08 Subaru: 1:44.478
Nice car, easy as pie to drive, the 45/55 split is a real shame, the exit under-steer is locked in, and the car feels pretty dull to drive overall, very mechanical. Sorry, I know it just went from 43 to 44, and now I'm adding that it's boring.:indiff:
A change on the torque split and/or lsd would easily turn this into both a speedster and a blast.

XDesperado67 - '03 Garaiya: 1:44.598
It feels fantastic, slight tendency to lose the rear if you enter too fast, which sets the rear astray ruining the exit, but as long as you don't cross that line it's all-but perfect. Feeling.
I can't help but think this would be a 43.5-43.0 with full down-force though.:indiff: Because I know the Garaiya is faster at these specs than the '08 Subaru, and this car is equipped with a more aggressive, faster tune than VT's. It's a testament to be so close to VT's time with the low down-force, while VT's car is great, this is just :drool: (feeling)

MrGrado - '08 Lexus IS350: 1:45.927
:(
I struggled to break 46. In your defense, this is by far and away the slowest "non-Razo" car eligible for this shootout.


1. krenkme
2. VTiRoj
3. Desperado
4. Onboy123
5. Geebaby/Praiano
 
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I deleted The CSLACR account I had friended (Dunno which one it was), dammit, why are you being all reliable and testing and such..Anyway which account should I re-friend? I shall re-friend and start testing GT500.
 
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XDesperado67 Autobacs Garayia '03: This is a very stable car. But due to the lack of downforce, this car really struggles in the first sector of this track with horrid understeer.
Time: 1:45.522

VTiRoj Subaru Cusco Impreza '08: Firstly I have to say that I'm not a fan of 4WD cars, and in this class of cars I can't see them having any benefit over RWD cars on a dry track. Having any more than 10% of the power to the front wheels is a no-no for me. The tune feels good, but the 30/70 split just makes it feel unnatural to me and understeers.
Time: 1:45.199

Krenkme RE Amemyia AsparaDrink RX-7 '06: This car is very easy to drive, very stable, and naturally does what you want it to. I was able to run very consistent laps with this car. This is the best RX-7 of the group.
Time: 1:44.662

Onboy Autobacs Garayia '03: This car is fast and has more potential than I was able to show for it, but for me the understeer mid corner transferring to power-on oversteer caused this car to be a handful for me and very inconsistent.
Time: 1:44.981

CSLACR Toyota Celica '03: I have a love-hate relationship with this car. Some laps were great, some laps were horrible. The turn-in on this car is awesome, but it seems like it needs to be just right or the car will understeer from the middle to the exit.
Time: 1:44.240

Trackripper123 Subaru Cusco Impreza '03: This is how a setup should be! Awesome work Trackripper. This car is a blast to drive, and competitive as well. Handles like a dream. The trans gearing was spot on as well.
Time: 1:44.914

Jackthalad RE Amemyia AsparaDrink RX-7 '06: This tune is very neutral, maybe a bit on the understeer side. This car likes to be pushed to get the most out of it.
Time: 1:44.989

Ugabugaz Subaru Cusco Impreza '08: Interesting setup we have here. I really like the way the weight transfers on this car, and I think it has alot of potential. But what holds it back for me is the 45/55 torque split, as well as the short gearing. Some very minor tweaks and I believe this would've been the fastest Scuby of the bunch.
Time: 1:45.351

GeeBaby/praiano63 Toyota Celica '03: Fastest car of the bunch! Great setup to drive. Brakes are better than expected, and the trans gearing is perfect for me. I was able to hit the same times lap after lap.
Time: 1:43.777

MrGrado Lexus Weds Sport IS350 '08: (still hasn't excepted friend request)
Time: None

POINTS

1st - Trackripper123
2nd - GeeBaby/praiano63
3rd - Krenkme
4th - CSLACR
5th - VTiRoj
 
VTiRoj - '08 Impreza: 1:44.445
Really nice car to drive, probably the best I've driven from you to date, a slight will to over-steer under braking, countered by a slight push provided by hard downshifting pretty much canceled out to "very nice", a bit mid-corner push, perfect on exits. I was literally talking and looking away through the final sector driving this car, and I didn't screw up.👍
I think I'm getting the hang of tuning easy to drive Impreza's now. Thanks! 👍

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VTiRoj Subaru Cusco Impreza '08: Firstly I have to say that I'm not a fan of 4WD cars, and in this class of cars I can't see them having any benefit over RWD cars on a dry track. Having any more than 10% of the power to the front wheels is a no-no for me. The tune feels good, but the 30/70 split just makes it feel unnatural to me and understeers.
Time: 1:45.199

Yeah I went with 4WD to be different, knowing everyone else would be picking RWD. I don't like going for 10/90 splits though, it just feels cheap when it comes to 4WD tuning. I'd rather keep the 4WD functional instead of neutering it to make it feel RWD.
 
Yeah I went with 4WD to be different, knowing everyone else would be picking RWD. I don't like going for 10/90 splits though, it just feels cheap when it comes to 4WD tuning. I'd rather keep the 4WD functional instead of neutering it to make it feel RWD.
Yeah, that's a fair point. And I give you props for going that route. This game just makes them very hard to be competitive IMO. But you did get your 4WD into my top 5, so hopefully that's worth something.
 
I'm confused how you made Desperado's car under-steer horribly.
The harder I turned the wheel the faster it cornered.
 
I'm confused how you made Desperado's car under-steer horribly.
The harder I turned the wheel the faster it cornered.
Just because of the lack of downforce. If it was maxed out, I think the car would've been great.
 
GT300



Ugabugaz Subaru Cusco Impreza '08: Interesting setup we have here. I really like the way the weight transfers on this car, and I think it has alot of potential. But what holds it back for me is the 45/55 torque split, as well as the short gearing. Some very minor tweaks and I believe this would've been the fastest Scuby of the bunch.
Time: 1:45.351

Transmission settings are my weakest link :sly:

-ALL GT500 Tests HERE - Fuji's one of my worst tracks but I'll try my best

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1) MotorCtyHamilton - Takata Dome '03
Fuji F Time: 1:37.173

Feedback: Initial impression wasn't good. Car felt really odd, and I thought it was in a for a slow time, though that's not really the case. I'm not a fan of the tune, it feels just a little bit odd and really not something I enjoy. My issues with it were the brakes - a bit too sensitive which made me blow the first turn a few times. Second thing is the application of throttle - the car tended to start rotating the moment I hit the throttle which made coming out of turns a bit tricky. I think this car will be able to break the 36 barrier though it might take me time to do it. Once I run all cars, I might return to see if I can get a faster time.

2) Onboy123's Raybrig NSX (P)
Fuji F Time: 1:36.689

Feedback: A welcome change from Hami's Takata. Very smooth car, fantastic brakes (Great for rotating), pretty good at putting the power down. The stock Raybrig is a great car as is, so what this tune does is enhance an already solid package. My time with the car revealed a wild side that I had previously missed. Treat this car wrong and it will bite back, treat it right and it will reward you with a fantastic drive.

3) krenkme's Diablo
Fuji F Time: 1:38.599

Feedback: Things just seem to be getting better and better. This is a very pleasant car to drive. Wonderful all around from braking to cornering to putting power down. My only slight nitpick is that it feels a bit understeery in spots. I'm going to save this tune for my own use - Unless I like another Diablo more though that seems unlikely. Great job krenkme.

4) GeeBaby/praiano63's Takata Dome '03
Fuji F Time: 1:36.222

Feedback: Incredibly smooth all around car. You'd be surprised you're driving a 500 HP race-car, it's that controllable. My only problem with the car is it's a bit lazy going into corners, I only discovered this fault after driving GeeBaby's Loctite Mugen. Giving the car a bit more corner entry spunk would make the tune in my view, perfect. In a best composite lap, this car could probably go .300 faster, judging by split times. I just had to stop lapping at a certain point and so I settled at the current time. A better driver could easily move the car under 36 - I'm pretty sloppy at Fuji.

5) Adrenaline - Takata Dome '03
Fuji F Time: 1:35.888

Feedback: The odd banana in the mix. It has the stability of the GeeBaby/praiano63 Takata with what feels like a transplant of the corner entry/exit of VTiRoj's NSX from the last shootout. It's really weird but in low speed corners this car sorta dives and just chucks in the direction of whatever turn you point it at. This feeling was great for the first corner as I could turn and jump on the throttle without hesitation - normally I'd have to wait for the car to rotate a bit then hit the throttle. The same feeling persisted in most low speed corners and I really appreciated it. Now that we've done the good stuff let's move on to the not so good. First off the brakes are a touch too sensitive in my case at least. I adapted to them but it took me a bit of time and sanity :P. Also unless I was 100 % with the car, it tended to want to slide in corners and get all out of shape - a nasty side effect of the corner dive chuck thingy. Overall I'd say the car is great but it could probably be improved and made a bit smoother.



6) CSLACR's Calsonic GT-R
Fuji F Time: 1:36.479

Feedback: The car does the first section of the track superbly. My only memory of a GT500 GT-R is the stock XANAVI version, and I hated that. Glad to say CSL's Calsonic feels pretty good, but it does have a few faults. I don't know if it's the car, or perhaps the tune but the car can be a bit sluggish in low speed corners. This could possibly be because I'm coming straight off the NSX bandwagon. In any case I had to change my line significantly through the last sets of corners and swing out much wider than I did with the NSX. Unlike most of the NSXs I couldn't use the brakes for rotation much. Overall though I do think this is a great example of a GT-R tune and one I'll definitely keep in my garage. I bought a Calsonic of my own just to have this tune available. A best composite lap should be about .200 quicker for this car and my skill set

7) trackripper's Supra
Fuji F Time: 1:37.559

Feedback: This car felt broken in a lot of ways. Right off it was by far the slowest clocking only 174 MPH where other cars are 178 MPH +. Through some corners the car feels like it's sorely unhappy about being a car. What I mean by that is it's shaky, jumpy, bouncy..etc. I think some of the dampers may be to blame for this weirdness. Another point of concern are the brakes. In low speed corners they tend to sort of lock up which I found a bit annoying. The last corner and this car also don't seem to like each other very much - I'm still looking for the best line through there with this Supra. (I'm still doing laps).
 
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CSLACR
*XDesperado67 - '03 Garaiya: 1:44.598*
It*"feels"*fantastic, slight tendency to lose the rear if you enter too fast, which sets the rear astray ruining the exit, but as long as you don't cross that line it's all-but perfect. Feeling.*
I can't help but think this would be a 43.5-43.0 with full down-force though.*Because I know the Garaiya is faster at these specs than the '08 Subaru, and this car is equipped with a more aggressive, faster tune than VT's. It's a testament to be so close to VT's time with the low down-force, while VT's car is great, this is just**(feeling)
Thanks for the test and as usual fantastic time.👍👍
Might have just been me and the rush I was in to get the car tuned and posted in time (note don't wait until the day of a tuning deadline to actually look at a car and drive it for the first time...not smart at all.:dunce:) but when I was tuning it more downforce made for more understeer and less feel for th car and track. More time spent with it probably would have corrected both issues I had with a higher Aero but I'm happy with the drive of the current tune as I feel it makes it a drivers car and not just another slotcar. For me at least I feel a greater sense of accomplishment when I nail a good lap in a tune like this than in some safer tunes I've done in the past.:crazy:
 
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