The Xbox One Thread - One X & One SXBOne 

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Jawehawk
Sorely dissapointing that Forza 5 was shown as an arcade game, rather than the great Sim that I would expect it to be.
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I wish people would stop posting stuff like this when they know nothing about the game besides 2 of the cars that might be in it. You can't tell it's not a sim from that short clip. The trailer was designed to be exciting, Forza 3 had a similar one and that turned out just fine.
 
SimonK
1080p will be the max for gaming so I'm pretty sure some will drop to 720p if they want a lot of eye candy, sure. Many current gen games are actually below 1280x720.
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I read that both Sony and Microsoft have said they support 4K.
That would also mean they should include a new HDMI standard.

Are we really talking approx 5x the performance but upto 4x the resolution?
No doubt by the time 4K sets are starting to sell in large numbers the developers will be well advanced at programming these new consoles.

1080p 60Hz should be a minimum from these machines but funnily not once have I heard much on 3D gaming!
 
dr_slump
Not all specs in that chart are confirmed though.

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Does anybody else struggle to see the sense of the HMDI input? Sure, you can switch between game and TV, but heck, I need nearly no time to press the source or input button on my remote control. And it's not as if I were going to switch between TV and game a hundred times per hour.

But maybe we can use the XBOX as recorder? I mean HDMI input + HDD...
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Which ones?
 
Moglet
I wish people would stop posting stuff like this when they know nothing about the game besides 2 of the cars that might be in it. You can't tell it's not a sim from that short clip. The trailer was designed to be exciting, Forza 3 had a similar one and that turned out just fine.
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You misundserstood me. I know that Forza 5 will be a sim, but what they showed at the press conference made it look like an arcade game.
 
An "all-in-one" entertainment solution with an umbilical cord to the internet and "the cloud", involving online authentication for essential tasks at least once a day or so? Fees to authenticate used games, possibly full price? "TV! TV! TV!"?

Please, I would appreciate it if someone could explain how I'm wrong, because this is so do not want for me.
 
sems4arsenal
Which ones?
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Where did MS confirm that the CPU is based on Jaguar? Where's the confirmation of the size of the L2 cache? Did Sony ever say that their GPU is going to have 1152SPs? Does MS anywhere list the bandwidth of the ESRAM? Manufacturing Process 28nm, oh really? Who said that? I heard of 40nm.
 
Something has been on my mind, these new consoles are essencially PC's, running x86 architecture. In the past emulating console games on your pc has required far more PC power to do the emulation than the consoles used and was generally very difficult to achieve, but does this change things?

Could piracy become an issue where people are successfully running console games on the PC?
 
Bigbazz
Something has been on my mind, these new consoles are essencially PC's, running x86 architecture. In the past emulating console games on your pc has required far more PC power to do the emulation than the consoles used and was generally very difficult to achieve, but does this change things?

Could piracy become an issue where people are successfully running console games on the PC?
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It would make it easier and the performance loss would be smaller (still quite big though) because you need no additional emulation for the CPU architecture. But anyhow, you'd need to code an virtual emulation platform for the whole PS4 firmware. Sony can use software and even hardware based barriers to prevent this though. Don't expect this way of piracy to be a problem.
Wolfe
An "all-in-one" entertainment solution with an umbilical cord to the internet and "the cloud", involving online authentication for essential tasks at least once a day or so? Fees to authenticate used games, possibly full price? "TV! TV! TV!"?

Please, I would appreciate it if someone could explain how I'm wrong, because this is so do not want for me.
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You're absolutely correct! 👍
 
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Mr Latte
Oh damn although maybe 4K Tetris with hires backgrounds will appear then :ouch:

Thanks Scaff on the DF link.
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By far the most people couldn't use it anyway. I mean who's honestly going to get a 4k TV in the next couple years? A small minority.
 
Probably won't be able to do PC PS4 emulation unless you're running a jaguar server with gddr5 memory. Lol.

Xbox might theoretically be able to be emulated, but that remains to be seen. There's probably so much crap involved that it'd be cheaper to just buy the unit.
 
Omnis
Probably won't be able to do PC PS4 emulation unless you're running a jaguar server with gddr5 memory. Lol.

Xbox might theoretically be able to be emulated, but that remains to be seen. There's probably so much crap involved that it'd be cheaper to just buy the unit.
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Seeing how Killzone uses ram and GNC compute cores, this will not be "playable" on any PC for a very long time.
 
Wolfe
An "all-in-one" entertainment solution with an umbilical cord to the internet and "the cloud", involving online authentication for essential tasks at least once a day or so? Fees to authenticate used games, possibly full price? "TV! TV! TV!"?

Please, I would appreciate it if someone could explain how I'm wrong, because this is so do not want for me.
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I can't stop watching the TV TV TV video
TV TV TV
TV! TV TV TV
television television televison
TElevision
introducing halo television
television televison
Sports? Sports sports sports
Call it doody
Call a doodie
Call a doodie
Introducing dog
Callaw doody
Call it doody
Xbox? Go home.

EPIC xD.
 
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Some people don't seem to realize how amazing it will be to have dedicated servers for EVERY multiplayer game. So I will try to clear up the confusion.

Current servers are person to person (P2P). You would be the host and I join your game. Most games pick a random host. If the host in the P2P has a crappy connection, everyone in the game sees lag, hit detection, and connection problems. You also see host migration with this setup. If the host leaves, the game pauses, finds a new host, and then continues playing again. This is how most online games work like COD, Halo and most other games.

In dedicated servers like BF3, the server is the host. You join and leave that server without interrupting anyone in the game, along with no host migration. If you have a crappy connection it does not effect everyone in the game. Only YOU see the lag. Dedicated servers are THE best online experience you can possibly get but it is very rare for games to have dedicated servers.

This has never happened. Not on PC, not on the PS3, not on 360. To have dedicated servers for EVERY multiplayer game would be an innovative revolution for gaming. Beyond incredible. :drool:
 
dr_slump
By far the most people couldn't use it anyway. I mean who's honestly going to get a 4k TV in the next couple years? A small minority.
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You can buy a 4k HDTV now for $1200 at 30Hz. Two years is a long time. What we're waiting for is HDMI to update to 60Hz at 4k res which is this year.
 
Just digging in XBOX One news in the internet.

Well, I just read/hear "TV", "televison", "🤬 fee for used games" and stuff.

Sounds like M$ 🤬 it up. Who needs a TV remote controller which is able to play used games only after you have paid a fee? (Tbh, I can't believe it. The used game fee could decide on next gen console war. WiiU lost already and XBOX One doesn`t focus on gaming but on televison and punishing gamers...)

Or did I miss something special?
 
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HKS racer
I can't stop watching the TV TV TV video
TV TV TV
TV! TV TV TV
television television televison
TElevision
introducing halo television
television televison
Sports? Sports sports sports
Call it doody
Call a doodie
Call a doodie
Introducing dog
Callaw doody
Call it doody
Xbox? Go home.

EPIC xD.
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:lol: Saw this and the parody and I was in stitches. You know what, I might actually hop on this bandwagon and do my own.
 
Jonathan Blow talking about what he has heard about performance of Xbox One relative to PS4:

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Reading threads like this makes me almost give up on the human race. It's pathetic. The interwebz fails yet again.
 
What a shame, guess he was hoping to "Kinect" in a totally different way.
 
CAMAROBOY69
Some people don't seem to realize how amazing it will be to have dedicated servers for EVERY multiplayer game. So I will try to clear up the confusion.

Current servers are person to person (P2P). You would be the host and I join your game. Most games pick a random host. If the host in the P2P has a crappy connection, everyone in the game sees lag, hit detection, and connection problems. You also see host migration with this setup. If the host leaves, the game pauses, finds a new host, and then continues playing again. This is how most online games work like COD, Halo and most other games.

In dedicated servers like BF3, the server is the host. You join and leave that server without interrupting anyone in the game, along with no host migration. If you have a crappy connection it does not effect everyone in the game. Only YOU see the lag. Dedicated servers are THE best online experience you can possibly get but it is very rare for games to have dedicated servers.

This has never happened. Not on PC, not on the PS3, not on 360. To have dedicated servers for EVERY multiplayer game would be an innovative revolution for gaming. Beyond incredible. :drool:
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Fantastic feature ,hope Sony follow suit.

Can't stop laughing at Collar Duty :lol:
 

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