2012 F1 Mechanics: designs and pieces that will win WDC & WCC
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Pat Symonds doesn't design cars. His background and career has been in engineering. He will be helping guide and direct the operations and management of the design team, but he doesn't really have much to do with the design of the car - not directly anyway - not as much as Nick Wirth was.
Pat Symonds is more of a Patrick Head/Ross Brawn (though even those two have more background in aerodynamics) type figure.
As ever, the job titles of "technical director" and "team principal" (among others) are not really strict definitions.
Funnily enough, the chief designer is the same person who helped design (at a late stage) the MVR-02. (John McQuilliam for the record)
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On that supposed picture of the new Ferrari, though the wings in front of the sidepods look innovative enough, wouldn't they divert most of the air upwards and away from the radiator intakes? In which case I hope it stays, I could deal with watching the Ferrari's blow an engine every weekend!
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A repost from F1 Fanatic, which itself was a repost from scarbsf1:
Ferrari are also believed to have - finally - picked up pull-rod suspension on their car. They've very late to the party, since Red Bull started doing it in 2009 and almost all of the other teams have started doing it since.
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I found this on SPEED if you havent seen it more.. hints on the 2012 Ferrari
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-details-of-2012-ferrari-emerge-in-italian-press/
found a rendering aswell
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-details-of-2012-ferrari-emerge-in-italian-press/
found a rendering aswell
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I found this on SPEED if you havent seen it more.. hints on the 2012 Ferrari
http://formula-one.speedtv.com/article/f1-details-of-2012-ferrari-emerge-in-italian-press/
found a rendering aswell
Yeah it looks like the CT-01 nose.
Oh and I'll just add this because it will probably be important for the year along with the aero parts and other mechanical stuff.
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Here are a couple of speculative renderings of the Ferrari F2012 (well actually the code name is still to be announced I believe). Should be interesting to see if the launch car does in fact have the unique winglets/flow conditioners in front of the sidepods, as well as the rumoured pull-rod front suspension, and revolutionary cooling system.
Also, I believe the dolphin nose rendering (of the F2012) that Endless-Wilso posted, doesn't fit within the regulations.
Also, I believe the dolphin nose rendering (of the F2012) that Endless-Wilso posted, doesn't fit within the regulations.
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Oh and I'll just add this because it will probably be important for the year along with the aero parts and other mechanical stuff.
What does the Wet Weather tyre say?
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"Cinturato". It's another Pirelli brand, just like P-Zero. In fact, I think it was one of their earliest brands, produced for family cars.
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Edit: PrisonerMonkeys beat me to it
According to F1.com Pirelli raced and won with that name in the 1950s.
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They all beat me to it.
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Well, it's unlikely that they were going to be winning anything anyway, but Marrusia will not run Kers this year.
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Thanks, though I'm not all that surprised they're still the glorified worst team on the grid though everyone wants to say it's HRT.
Also speaking of technical stuff does anyone know who does these, technical drawings so I can keep a look out for 2012 ones. http://www.formula1.com/news/technical/2010/832/764.html
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It makes sense when you think about it - KERS might give up to half a second per lap, but it weighs between 24 and 30kg and is a very complex system in its own right. Would that half a second be worth the added problems it presents? Marussia evidently don't think so, since their aim is to build a car with better aerodynamics.
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possible ferrari f12
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That's the same image they used to promote the launch of the MP4-26 last year.
Details of the new Ferrari are leaked to the press on a yearly basis. They've never had any resemblance to the final car.
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If it ends up in an overtake battle like the last 2 years, the KERS will make the difference to keep the HRTs in front and hence slow down any progress Marussia make in the races.
It won't necessarily mean HRT will beat them on pace.
It will be interesting to see if HRT can make a faster car and if they don't, if a slower car with KERS can make any kind of difference in a race against a faster car that doesn't have it.
The past 2 seasons Caterham have consistently mixed with the back end of the midfield but have always struggled or lost out most of the time due to the midfield cars and their KERS. It would be fair to assume that HRT vs Marussia will end the same way though as you say it really depends on what they manage to design first.
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Yeah and we should believe the image, because the basic outline of both cars are the same.
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Wow, those aerodynamicists are obsessive!!
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I thought I had a grip on the Mercedes duct situation but I've gotten a bit lost.
*Originally (ages ago) I heard they had a F-Duct front wing, some special bodywork design that gave super effect to get air around the outside of the car.
*Then I learnt/saw a diagram that there was a triple-air-channel thing going on inside the nose/body so that when they turned a corner, the main air force bounced and went down a certain channel and delivered aero help on one side of the car.
*This week I read that the rear wing has holes in the sides and they accept air when the DRS is activated and that air is sent to the front of the car and onto the front wing somewhere to stall it and get essentially an extra DRS boost.
*Now I'm reading that the rear wing system just blows air onto the lower part of the rear wing.
Does anyone know the real situation? Some of this must be wrong.
*Originally (ages ago) I heard they had a F-Duct front wing, some special bodywork design that gave super effect to get air around the outside of the car.
*Then I learnt/saw a diagram that there was a triple-air-channel thing going on inside the nose/body so that when they turned a corner, the main air force bounced and went down a certain channel and delivered aero help on one side of the car.
*This week I read that the rear wing has holes in the sides and they accept air when the DRS is activated and that air is sent to the front of the car and onto the front wing somewhere to stall it and get essentially an extra DRS boost.
*Now I'm reading that the rear wing system just blows air onto the lower part of the rear wing.
Does anyone know the real situation? Some of this must be wrong.
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