2014 Belgian Grand Prix

They did the same in 2012 as well, they were top of the speed traps but they were about 8-9 km/h slower at the end of the straight which is roughly 14 mph or so.
 
Typical Euro's/Internationals trying to keep the Americans out. They knw they don't want the BEEF!!. F1 is great(obviously) but when u have only 1 American in the last 20 years, two Mexicans now, Maldanado & Kobayashi its gets a little WEAK....too bad im not a millionaire or id get ROSSI in myself. Ok Euro's, bring on the hateful replies!!
The trolling is strong with this one! :rolleyes:
 
The trolling is strong with this one! :rolleyes:

Hello, --

Call it whatever u will, but rich baby-boy come straight outta karting to F1 & ROSSI is going the correct route coming up through the ranks, so YES im angry about all these money babies!.
 
Hello, --

Call it whatever u will, but rich baby-boy come straight outta karting to F1 & ROSSI is going the correct route coming up through the ranks, so YES im angry about all these money babies!.
I don't like it either. But it's the nature of the business. Alexander Rossi is not the first driver to be screwed out of his grand prix debut by a rich kid, and he certainly won't be the last. It has nothing to do with nationality. If Rossi was European, it would not have changed the outcome one bit.

Also so what that Max Verstappen has bypassed most of his junior career to get to F1 quicker than Rossi? He's also getting to the top quicker than hundreds of other drivers who have been hacking away in junior formulas for years; the majority of which are 'Euros'. Who would have thought it, huh? :rolleyes:

If there's one similarity to motorsports all over the globe, apart from the four wheels that stop them from plowing into a hedge, is this; they're not fair. My advice to you? Deal with it!
 
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Rossi has been no where in GP2, seriously its mainly down to the fact there are no good american drivers out there coming through the ranks.
 
Ok Euro's, bring on the hateful replies!!
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And now let's have a crack at the point, such that there is one...
Typical Euro's/Internationals trying to keep the Americans out. They knw they don't want the BEEF!!. F1 is great(obviously) but when u have only 1 American in the last 20 years, two Mexicans now, Maldanado & Kobayashi its gets a little WEAK
You know that Kobayashi is Japanese and not from any part of the American continental landmass right?

In fact the South American continent seems to cope just fine. Over the last 20 years we've had drivers from Brazil (lots of those), Argentina, Colombia & Venezuela. You rightly mention Mexico, but we've also had a Canadian world champion and seat filler and a Canadian test driver. We've also had drivers from Malaysia (2, 1 test driver), India (2), China (1 test driver) and a whole slew of Kamui's countrymen (and Taki Inoue).

There's not some conspiracy to keep American drivers out. Teams either want the best driver to bring them results or the best sponsored driver to bring them money. If an American driver showed up with Maldonado's funding, he'd walk into a seat - I'm sure you're aware that Rossi's seat at Spa this weekend was effectively due to finances, right?
 
I don't like it either. But it's the nature of the business. Alexander Rossi is not the first driver to be screwed out of his grand prix debut by a rich kid, and he certainly won't be the last. It has nothing to do with nationality. If Rossi was European, it would not have changed the outcome one bit.

Also so what that Max Verstappen has bypassed most of his junior career to get to F1 quicker than Rossi? He's also getting to the top quicker than hundreds of other drivers who have been hacking away in junior formulas for years; the majority of which are 'Euros'. Who would have thought it, huh? :rolleyes:

If there's one similarity to motorsports all over the globe, apart from the four wheels that stop them plowing into a hedge, is this; they're not fair. My advice to you? Deal with it!


--Excellent reply! I agree with most of what u said & I know its a 'business' as all professional sports are. Still, Im excited to see an American in F1 & im gonna 'call out' ANY trust-fund baby! Either way, I still believe ROSSI should be given his due for coming up through the ranks, Chilton is NOT raw talent like Versappen is, I have no problem with raw talent going straight to the top.
 
--Excellent reply! I agree with most of what u said & I know its a 'business' as all professional sports are. Still, Im excited to see an American in F1 & im gonna 'call out' ANY trust-fund baby! Either way, I still believe ROSSI should be given his due for coming up through the ranks, Chilton is NOT raw talent like Versappen is, I have no problem with raw talent going straight to the top.
I agree with you about Chilton one-hundred percent. But Marussia isn't just hiring him for his cash so that they can splash out at Nandos over Christmas. They're doing it because they need that cash flow coming in to keep the team going. It's far from ideal I know, but I'd rather they do that, than see them vanish from the grid.
 
--Excellent reply! I agree with most of what u said & I know its a 'business' as all professional sports are. Still, Im excited to see an American in F1 & im gonna 'call out' ANY trust-fund baby! Either way, I still believe ROSSI should be given his due for coming up through the ranks, Chilton is NOT raw talent like Versappen is, I have no problem with raw talent going straight to the top.

Like you said, it's a business. The problem with raw talent is that it doesn't pay the bills, and despite Rossi's accession through the ranks, he hasn't really set the world on fire recently in single-seater formulae.

As mentioned earlier, this isn't the first time that Marussia have had to reverse a decision at the last minute, people seem to forget that Luiz Razia lost his seat prior to the 2013 Australian Grand Prix due to a lack of sponsorship and was replaced by Jules Bianchi, though that's probably the best thing that's happened to them since their inception into Formula 1.
 
Typical Euro's/Internationals trying to keep the Americans out. They knw they don't want the BEEF!!. F1 is great(obviously) but when u have only 1 American in the last 20 years, two Mexicans now, Maldanado & Kobayashi its gets a little WEAK....too bad im not a millionaire or id get ROSSI in myself. Ok Euro's, bring on the hateful replies!!

Get some quality single seater drivers coming through, then we'll talk.

Well, we can start here:And now let's have a crack at the point, such that there is one...You know that Kobayashi is Japanese and not from any part of the American continental landmass right?

In fact the South American continent seems to cope just fine. Over the last 20 years we've had drivers from Brazil (lots of those), Argentina, Colombia & Venezuela. You rightly mention Mexico, but we've also had a Canadian world champion and seat filler and a Canadian test driver. We've also had drivers from Malaysia (2, 1 test driver), India (2), China (1 test driver) and a whole slew of Kamui's countrymen (and Taki Inoue).

There's not some conspiracy to keep American drivers out. Teams either want the best driver to bring them results or the best sponsored driver to bring them money. If an American driver showed up with Maldonado's funding, he'd walk into a seat - I'm sure you're aware that Rossi's seat at Spa this weekend was effectively due to finances, right?

Also worth mentioning that Ricciardo and Webber had to travel halfway around the world to cut their teeth in single seaters in Europe. From Marussia's praise of Rossi I would not be too surprised if he scores an F1 seat at some point.
 
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I don't knw! I think some of those engineers have kids who want Apple products!! lol(j/k) I fully understand why they did it & im aware this isn't the first or last time, but im sure u all understand how much I want to see an American in F1. Im sorry if I offended anyone, just trying to stir-up some passionate debate! Thnx 4 the great replies & I hope you all enjoy the race this weekend!
Most of us want to see an American in F1, I'm sure. However the problem isn't so much that it's hard for them to get in; it's that so few drivers from the States actually try. And when I think about the reason, I honestly can't say I blame them.

America has it's own motor racing scene; what with NASCAR, the ALMS, and it's own version of F1: Indycar. Of course there are many others; I only named the three biggest series. Now as different as all these series are, they share one vital similarity. And that is that they are all so much more accessible than F1. As far as a budding American race driver must be concerned, it makes far more sense to try their luck in North America, where they have more chance of making a good career for themselves. Rather than throwing tons of money at moving to Europe to try their hand at the racing scene there, only for their spending and efforts to come to jack, because there simply weren't enough good opportunities there.
 
Most of us want to see an American in F1, I'm sure. However the problem isn't so much that it's hard for them to get in; it's that so few drivers from the States actually try. And when I think about the reason, I honestly can't say I blame them.

America has it's own motor racing scene; what with NASCAR, the ALMS, and it's own version of F1: Indycar. Of course there are many others; I only named the three biggest series. Now as different as all these series are, they share one vital similarity. And that is that they are all so much more accessible than F1. As far as a budding American race driver must be concerned, it makes far more sense to try their luck in North America, where they have more chance of making a good career for themselves. Rather than throwing tons of money at moving to Europe to try their hand at the racing scene there, only for their spending and efforts to come to jack, because there simply weren't enough good opportunities there.


--Once again, you're 100% correct & great post. I'm frustrated with popularity of NASCAR in the US, too many ovals & the mainstream fan thinks it's 'real' racing, that's what I blame most of the problem on. The TUSCC is great & many Americans are in that series, but I still think we should have an American in F1 regardless of all those factors you stated.
 
So, speaking of people who refuse to learn... Pastor Maldonado seems to be blaming his gearbox...
For his drifting onto the grass, keeping the throttle nailed to the floor, and loosing control of the car as a result? Even though the gearbox is not connected to the steering in anyway whatsoever?

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Sounds legit! :lol:
 
--Once again, you're 100% correct & great post. I'm frustrated with popularity of NASCAR in the US, too many ovals & the mainstream fan thinks it's 'real' racing, that's what I blame most of the problem on. The TUSCC is great & many Americans are in that series, but I still think we should have an American in F1 regardless of all those factors you stated.

There has not been a great F1 driver since... Andretti I guess, and he's not U.S. born

So, speaking of people who refuse to learn... Pastor Maldonado seems to be blaming his gearbox...
How did he even crashed? I've completely missed that bit of FP2 :dunce:
 
A GP3 car just went flying in the air....

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Chilton says there is more to the story behind hus dismissal and re-hiring, but has not bothered to elaborate further.

Typical Euro's/Internationals trying to keep the Americans out. They knw they don't want the BEEF!!. F1 is great(obviously) but when u have only 1 American in the last 20 years, two Mexicans now, Maldanado & Kobayashi its gets a little WEAK....too bad im not a millionaire or id get ROSSI in myself. Ok Euro's, bring on the hateful replies!!
Is it a conspiracy against American drivers, or is it simply a case of America not producing a competitive driver?

Formula 1 does not owe America anything.
 
Most of us want to see an American in F1, I'm sure. However the problem isn't so much that it's hard for them to get in; it's that so few drivers from the States actually try. And when I think about the reason, I honestly can't say I blame them.

America has it's own motor racing scene; what with NASCAR, the ALMS, and it's own version of F1: Indycar. Of course there are many others; I only named the three biggest series. Now as different as all these series are, they share one vital similarity. And that is that they are all so much more accessible than F1. As far as a budding American race driver must be concerned, it makes far more sense to try their luck in North America, where they have more chance of making a good career for themselves. Rather than throwing tons of money at moving to Europe to try their hand at the racing scene there, only for their spending and efforts to come to jack, because there simply weren't enough good opportunities there.

22 opportunities a year, mostly pre-booked. You've got to be stellar or funded. Funded is more common for newcomers but not always the case.

Indy/F1 equivalency? I love both but I think you'd have to go a long way to compare them as anything other than open-wheel racers, in my opinion.

On-topic; how much time do the esteemed members think Rosberg lost at the top of the hill? McNish (pro-Hamilton) thinks Rosberg would only be 0.1 down but that seems optimistic. I haven't heard Lauda's view, probably closer to 30 seconds :D
 
Duff comparison. The Caterham is a bad example of its kind, the Audi is a good example of its own kind. Plus, the two different cars are stronger aerodynamically in different areas. The F1 can exploit wings but the Audi can get a more streamlined overall body and covering the wheels. And that's before we talk about the restrictive design briefs in F1.

But I hope Lotterer enjoys his experience in the pinnacle of open wheel racing. That's what counts.
 
Not surprising really, but he points out why overall the F1 car is quicker.

Now that Lotterer isn't going to race will he have time to get to Motegi for the event he was going to miss?
Pretty sure Lotterer is still racing....

It's Rossi who isn't due to Chilton finding money.
 
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