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2014 United Sports Car Championship
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Oh man! That was rough. He got Henzler too!
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Tough break for Estre, but man what a charge by Jeroen!
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Estre had been really running thos GTLM cars hard and they were tired of it. Bleekemolen set the fastest GTD lap twice in the last 10 minutes to catch the 73. Amazing stuff right there. That's why GTD is the best GT racing period. It's been that awesome since the Rolex 24 this year
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Four in a row for the #3 Vette, wow. The #4 cant catch a break. Nice showing for the Vipers, podiums in GTLM and a win in GTD.
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It was awesome race in all classes. Just if the ESM had did better job 
They have had so much problems that I think I start supporting Oak racing instead from now in P class and after that Wayne Taylor Racing. But in GTLM and GTD the winners were just what I wanted 
Good to see Viper win its first race after tight racing in GTD:tup:! I wonder if the Indianapolis will be as interesting, as it might be a little DP-favouring track. Well in two weeks we will find out.
They have had so much problems that I think I start supporting Oak racing instead from now in P class and after that Wayne Taylor Racing. But in GTLM and GTD the winners were just what I wanted Good to see Viper win its first race after tight racing in GTD:tup:! I wonder if the Indianapolis will be as interesting, as it might be a little DP-favouring track. Well in two weeks we will find out.
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FTFY
How many people have been hurt from cars spinning tires coming out of the pits? How many people have been hurt by rolling wheel locks across pit road? Really. Let's just go to the hour long WEC pit stops where we get to look at cars stopped and not even running for 30 seconds. If we're going for safety, let's mandate each tire that's changed has to be hand torqued to ensure it doesn't come off on track. Let's also make sure there's no possibility of a pit crewman getting hit by other cars, so let's pull all cars behind the wall into garage stalls for service. Where do we draw the line? I'd rather see cars on the track and make pit stops as short as possible to make the race more important. Grand am has done the fuel+tires stops for 10 years with no injuries that were caused by their rule set.
For the Dempsey incident, it wasn't necessarily the penalty itself just the punishment in that situation when a car in that same race was speeding and got a lesser penalty. If anything, speeding is waaaaay more dangerous
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That was far more avoidable then the incident with the Viper and wasn't even close to an accident. If the 555 would've gotten out of the throttle instead of pushing into the corner, he wouldn't have went in over his head and got into the Corvette. To a degree, Wittmer could've actually slowed up on the BMW since it just came out the pits. Yes the Vette would've gotten closer, but he wouldn't have lost the lead as easily.
Pretty sure "Avoidable contact" is not for accidents, its for poor driving or incidents that could've been avoided and last I checked, accidents are usually unpreventable.
There's a huge difference between an accident and an incident and that collision with the 555 and the 4 was an incident.
That was far more avoidable then the incident with the Viper and wasn't even close to an accident. If the 555 would've gotten out of the throttle instead of pushing into the corner, he wouldn't have went in over his head and got into the Corvette. To a degree, Wittmer could've actually slowed up on the BMW since it just came out the pits. Yes the Vette would've gotten closer, but he wouldn't have lost the lead as easily.
Pretty sure "Avoidable contact" is not for accidents, its for poor driving or incidents that could've been avoided and last I checked, accidents are usually unpreventable.
There's a huge difference between an accident and an incident and that collision with the 555 and the 4 was an incident.
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And if it were a GTLM class car to win (overall) in the rain, it would have to be the Falken Porsche, of course.I was really hoping for rain.
http://falkentire.com/community/blog/2013/08/alms-round-6-falken-tire-races-rain-road-america
Glad to see the 42 win.
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I regretting doing this after I started it but I went back thru the tv broadcast to see if I imagined all those commercial breaks or what.It was unwatchable even with a DVR.
180 min window
105 min of race cars
75 min of commercials
27 ad breaks including 9 of those 30 sec breaks.
Longest green flag race coverage-the final 7 minutes.
I felt bad for Bob Varsha,he sounded like a hostage reading a statement from a terrorist organization doing that race.He filled in last week for the Indy Pocono race on NBCSN and sounded like he actually enjoyed doing his job.Maybe he can escape the Fox nightmare and get a full-time gig at NBC next year.
Indy might be a better broadcast since it wont be live,but i bet they will do a info piece early in the race inviting everybody to watch the onboards live on fox.com or imsa.com as if time travel was possible.
Hopefully there will be a slight BoP in LM to slow the Vette's down just a little.
180 min window
105 min of race cars
75 min of commercials
27 ad breaks including 9 of those 30 sec breaks.
Longest green flag race coverage-the final 7 minutes.
I felt bad for Bob Varsha,he sounded like a hostage reading a statement from a terrorist organization doing that race.He filled in last week for the Indy Pocono race on NBCSN and sounded like he actually enjoyed doing his job.Maybe he can escape the Fox nightmare and get a full-time gig at NBC next year.
Indy might be a better broadcast since it wont be live,but i bet they will do a info piece early in the race inviting everybody to watch the onboards live on fox.com or imsa.com as if time travel was possible.
Hopefully there will be a slight BoP in LM to slow the Vette's down just a little.
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Yeah I couldn't watch it, I stopped after about 40 mins then turned back with 30 mins left.I regretting doing this after I started it but I went back thru the tv broadcast to see if I imagined all those commercial breaks or what.It was unwatchable even with a DVR.
180 min window
105 min of race cars
75 min of commercials
27 ad breaks including 9 of those 30 sec breaks.
Longest green flag race coverage-the final 7 minutes.
I felt bad for Bob Varsha,he sounded like a hostage reading a statement from a terrorist organization doing that race.He filled in last week for the Indy Pocono race on NBCSN and sounded like he actually enjoyed doing his job.Maybe he can escape the Fox nightmare and get a full-time gig at NBC next year.
Indy might be a better broadcast since it wont be live,but i bet they will do a info piece early in the race inviting everybody to watch the onboards live on fox.com or imsa.com as if time travel was possible.
Hopefully there will be a slight BoP in LM to slow the Vette's down just a little.
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That's 105 minutes better than the 0 minutes of WEC tv coverage in the states
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That's because it's online...and considering that most channels in the states only play well live coverage of American Motorsports your argument is moot. I mean the only other groups that get tons of coverage but not nearly as much as NASCAR are F1 and Moto GP. WSBK hardly gets coverage, WRC, DTM, WTCC, hell I have to wait for December and January to roll around to watch GT3 because there are no current motorsports running at that time. And that was back on Speed.
V8 Supercars hardly gets coverage and when it does it's tape delayed and cut down like ALMS use to be (which was an actual U.S. sanctioned Series
)Also by the way you do know who you're quoting to isn't from the U.S. right?
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That was the reason why I quoted him in the first place 👍
We can thank FS1 for all of these issues. There used to be the occasional BTCC on Speed. Aussie V8s tooThat's because it's online...and considering that most channels in the states only play well live coverage of American Motorsports your argument is moot. I mean the only other groups that get tons of coverage but not nearly as much as NASCAR are F1 and Moto GP. WSBK hardly gets coverage, WRC, DTM, WTCC, hell I have to wait for December and January to roll around to watch GT3 because there are no current motorsports running at that time. And that was back on Speed.
V8 Supercars hardly gets coverage and when it does it's tape delayed and cut down like ALMS use to be (which was an actual U.S. sanctioned Series
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That's my point as well so why compare a series that is international with a regional one, when you and I both know that FS has cut down significantly the number of international series seen on TV. The only time they care is when it's the biggest race of the year Le Mans. So if we compare like coverage, that people are use too when watching other racing series which is the more reasonable and equal approach TUDOR fails like NASCAR does because there is far too many commercials. Try watching say F1 overseas on non-premium for example and then compare it to this series.
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Half the time the races aren't covered well stateside because the time slot is odd. I would venture to say that halfway around the world, tv audience is down for those GPs. The NBCSN wrap up shows are very good. Fox needs to pick up it's coverage regardless. But my point was, crappy coverage is better than no coverage. We did get 6 hours live at Watkins Glen
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I know what your point was, but it wasn't right and even if it was the comparison was misplaced. There is coverage for WEC here it's online. Same for V8 Supercars which is online, and WTCC and WRC and on and on and on. Because as you put it FS doesn't want to make a deal and recreate Speed. Same reason why they didn't want to redeal and pay for F1 and thus NBC got it.
At least when I pay for coverage of WEC I get to see the entire race and then I complain about other things like if the feed is down or messy, but then I can't do that when it's free like 24h Le Mans. I'm not sure about you but I pay for my cable and so I can understand the issue people have with so many commercials, when other groups don't do it at all or nearly as much.
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That's because it's online...and considering that most channels in the states only play well live coverage of American Motorsports your argument is moot. I mean the only other groups that get tons of coverage but not nearly as much as NASCAR are F1 and Moto GP. WSBK hardly gets coverage, WRC, DTM, WTCC, hell I have to wait for December and January to roll around to watch GT3 because there are no current motorsports running at that time. And that was back on Speed.
V8 Supercars hardly gets coverage and when it does it's tape delayed and cut down like ALMS use to be (which was an actual U.S. sanctioned Series
Also by the way you do know who you're quoting to isn't from the U.S. right?
Suprisingly, International motorsports coverage is actually getting slightly better (just not on FS1.) I found out that CBS Sports Network is constantly showing DTM and FIA GT coverage (and in much longer viewing package then the typical one hour highlights we got in december-January on Speed) and they air these year around starting right after the weekend the race happened. WRC is getting coverage here in the US via MAV TV, and Live might I add. Unfortunately as usual for US coverage of Moto GP, it only has superb pre-race and post race coverage when the series visits COTA, Laguna Seca and Indy (just as V8 Supercars did last year in their first US race Via simulcast on Speed in the US and 7 network in Austrailia).
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Yea I pay a lot of money for Charter cable, and I honestly don't have a problem at all with some commercials. Do I think there are too many? Yes way too many, but I like to look at the positives rather than dwell on how crappy everything is. I could sit here and write 400 pages worth of beef that I have with IMSA, or I could focus on the positives and support the series accepting that it's not perfect.
I've never been able to get the enjoyment out of a stream that I get on tv. Could just be me. I'd honestly rather deal with commercials than stream quality issues and stuff. Plus, for sponsors, the tv package is golden. The better the tv package, the more sponsors will come because more people can actually see the race rather than having to find it online which is pretty hard to if you don't know what time and site to look for
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That's not true about the sponsors, groups like F1 know people will pay to watch that's why Bernie went to pay tv only basically and their viewership has yet to dramatically drop off due to it. F1fanatic has great articles on viewership that prove they've stayed basically in the same area as before. Pay tv in many places tends to not have commercials and yet F1 has the biggest sponsors in the world on their cars because of investors not the fans really. Same with most top tier sports. In the U.S. I guess you can make the claim for that, but premium cable isn't cheap in most areas that you'd have to get to have FS1 and FS2 or NBCSN so if they really cared about Sponsor air time they'd put it back on regular package television for everyone. They don't though because of investors.
As for the negative vs positives. I'm just being a realist, if they do good things I say it if they don't I don't. The topic was IMSA broadcasting, which I don't think is a positive just like NASCAR and Indy and most U.S. television. If you want a positive from me on IMSA, I'd say they're doing a better job with cautions then before in the season. Sorry but the real world deals with real world views that's why I do what I do.
