2015 Ford Mustang - General Discussion

[ProjectWHaT]

But warranties have strict guidelines, such as if you break it yourself, you don't get a free replacement, or "an act by God" (PS3 warranty IIRC). Warranties are there because the manufacturer is confident nothing will break in that time period. Almost directly after warranties, problems will appear.

 

[Slash]

The void is there because if someone uses it and can't control it and wrecks, they can't go back to Ford and say "I'm under warranty, fix it". That gets expensive for companies rather quick. And drivers can't sue Ford for injuries because Ford covered their ass and said "Hey, we'll install it but if you use it and hurt yourself, that's on you, not us". Regardless of if you hurt yourself or not, you took risky action that could have put your life in danger and Ford is simply avoiding large lawsuits. It's really that simple.

 

[Dan]

I'm a diehard Ford guy, but I'm kinda shaking my head at Ford for this. I think they're just finding a practical way to save more money.

Same here! I'm a Ford guy as well!

 

[Zenith]

Really you guys? Really?

I shouldn't have to explain this to a car forum, but racing breaks parts.

This is not a GT3 RS. This is a mass produced road car.

Think about how pants-on-head idiotic it would be to make every single one of these cars race ready with a warranty to match. 95% of these never see that kind of treatment. Your engineering department would have to be sniffing glue for that to make any sense. High performance models exist for a reason.

 

[niky]

And, to note, Porsche's warranty does not cover racing, either.

And, as I pointed out, earlier, neither does Chevrolet. If you blow a Corvette engine on the racetrack due to oil starvation... which was not supposed to happen due to the fancy sump (though they did fix it)... and if you do it at a Chevrolet sponsored track event, you're sod out of luck.

In fact, the only make I know of that offers warranty coverage for track days is Nissan with the GT-R. People complained about the incredibly expensive service that went with that, but really... no one will warranty your road car for race use. You can get lucky if you "know people", but that's about it.

 

[Dan]

I just think it's ridiculous that the Ford engineers implement line locks, an important drag racing feature, yet you aren't allowed to race your car, making that feature pretty useless.

 

[Zenith]

I just think it's ridiculous that the Ford engineers implement line locks, an important drag racing feature, yet you aren't allowed to race your car, making that feature pretty useless.

You can race your car, you just can't race your car and expect the dealer to replace your worn out parts under warranty.

How is line lock any different from other sports cars which come with race features?

The feature is also plenty useful for people who want to do burnouts for fun which is what 99% of burnouts in Mustangs are for anyways.

It's not like line locks are difficult to implement into cars these days either.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Yeah, most likely this "line lock" is made with a bunch of code in ECM/PCM that dictates which brakes are applied.. How much do they want for this feature again?

 

[Badasp5.0]

I just think it's ridiculous that the Ford engineers implement line locks, an important drag racing feature, yet you aren't allowed to race your car, making that feature pretty useless.

Not really. With street tires a burn out is not really needed if to do a big smokey one on street tires they will get greasy and be harder to hookup.

 

[niky]

Fifteen seconds. Hmmm... just long enough to overheat them into uselessness?

 

[Slash]

Fifteen seconds. Hmmm... just long enough to overheat them into uselessness?

Most street tires don't even need to be warmed up

 

[Badasp5.0]

How is line lock any different from other sports cars which come with race features?her.

Like the GT-R Launch control feature that was killing transmissions when the R35 came out.

 

[Omnis]

I wonder how many sorority girls are going to drive down the road and accidentally engage the line lock. "I stopped at the light and now the car won't drive."

 

[niky]

Like the GT-R Launch control feature that was killing transmissions when the R35 came out.

More accurately, it wasn't. What was killing transmissions was people turning off the dynamic chassis control, which was causing wheel hop and massive stress to the transmission, with no electronic intervention to lessen the shock. Which is why Nissan removed the button for later GT-Rs. Launch control doesn't hurt trannies. Stupidity does.

 

[homeforsummer]

I wonder how many sorority girls are going to drive down the road and accidentally engage the line lock. "I stopped at the light and now the car won't drive."

Or, judging by how many dithering Mustang convertibles I followed on Highway 1 on my last trip over there, how many tourists will stop to look at a view and not get moving again.

 

[Dan]

Wait. Is the line lock an option or does it come standard on all 2015 Mustangs?

 

[RocZX]

Wait. Is the line lock an option or does it come standard on all 2015 Mustangs?

It will be standard on the GT, not sure if it will be option on the V6 or Ecoboost.

 

[Slash]

Wait. Is the line lock an option or does it come standard on all 2015 Mustangs?

It's standard on 5.0L equipped cars.


It's unclear if it's an option on other models yet though.

 

[Dan]

It will be standard on the GT, not sure if it will be option on the V6 or Ecoboost.

It's standard on 5.0L equipped cars.


It's unclear if it's an option on other models yet though.

Thanks, guys. 👍

 

[Badasp5.0]

Or, judging by how many dithering Mustang convertibles I followed on Highway 1 on my last trip over there, how many tourists will stop to look at a view and not get moving again.

Since it is only on GTs I would assume there will be very little rental cars that will have it since most Mustang rentals are V6s. The only exceptions are the Shelby/Penske Hertz cars.

More accurately, it wasn't. What was killing transmissions was people turning off the dynamic chassis control, which was causing wheel hop and massive stress to the transmission, with no electronic intervention to lessen the shock. Which is why Nissan removed the button for later GT-Rs. Launch control doesn't hurt trannies. Stupidity does.

Interesting, thanks for the info.

 

[Slash]

And this is how Ford is choosing to advertise...

 

[Sage Ages]

What, no Fox body?

 

[Slash]

What, no Fox body?

They could have at least tossed it in there

 

[mustang fanatic]

And this is how Ford is choosing to advertise...

 

[Slash]

I can't tell exactly what they are trying to do.

Either they are throwing a swing of nostalgia at us or telling us they don't give a 🤬 what people think.

 

[MrWednesday]

After that, Ford slowly started working on the suspension over the engine especially mid 80s on the Fox with the factory 3 link rear.

The Fox is not a 3-link rear. In fact, that's one of its biggest weaknesses, as the upper arms swing in different planes and can bind, causing snap oversteer. A popular suspension mod is to convert to 3-link by pulling the upper control arms and adding a panhard bar and a torque arm.

 

[Slash]

Ah right, I forgot about that. I always think they have a factory 3 link for whatever reason.

 

[Pupik]

And this is how Ford is choosing to advertise...

 

[Omnis]

And this is how Ford is choosing to advertise...

What the **** did I just watch?

 

[Slash]

What the **** did I just watch?

That is EXACTLY what I said.