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2016 F1 Constructor tech info/development thread. (READ 1ST POST)Formula 1
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A shadowy looking W07 has been spotted.
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...w-mercedes-as-w07-breaks-cover-at-silverstone
http://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...w-mercedes-as-w07-breaks-cover-at-silverstone
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They were trialling higher front suspension mounts (internally) at the last race of '15, that's what the "bulge" was for. Quite possibly the whole top of the nose is slightly higher this year?
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It already is, the trial run (wasn't the last race it was actually Brazil) which I posted up in last years thread https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...-read-first-post.321751/page-22#post-11097852
The problem is like the williams you wont know it's being run cause it wont have a massive fake s-duct indicating as such. The flow of the higher chassis along the nose will all look flush and only side by side comparisons will verify. It it thought though that like others they already raised the chassis for this years car.
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yeah like I said as well, but now that I think about it perhaps they're not so tall. It could be our perspective due to seeing it in POV of Nico. Also with the added protection around the driver it looks like he's even lower in the car than previous years, so maybe they aren't that high? If they are it's to free up aero around the side pods. But I think we're right and they're that much higher than before.
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I remember Newey (or Head, or some other top F1 designer-grump) saying that if it was up to the designers there'd be no mirrors at all. Or driver, probably. I guess this lets the designer lift the mirrors out of that messy airflow behind the top of the front wheels.
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McLaren and Haas both launch tomorrow. Going to follow discussion in this thread as i'm interested in how the Honda PU is hyped this year. After all, not hard to say "it's better than last years!"
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Man, that thing even looks slow. Reminds me of the HRT from 2010.
Very pronounced S-duct on the front there, will be interesting to see how many other teams go that route.
Edit: Now that I've had a chance to take a better look at it, some interesting things:
Very pronounced S-duct on the front there, will be interesting to see how many other teams go that route.
Edit: Now that I've had a chance to take a better look at it, some interesting things:
- Like the Ferrari, lots of little cuts in the floor in front of the rear tires
- Unlike the Ferrari, no vents alongside the cockpit for cooling, which is interesting. Mclaren and Honda must be confident the sidepods will be enough to properly cool the engine, and that they won't need to vent air out before it reaches back of the bodywork
- Every team so far has gone for the "Upside down Mickey Mouse" solution to the new exhaust rules. Will anyone break the trend and try a 2 pipe solution?
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Man you're catching everything, good stuff. Also another interesting thing about the car is the front blown wheel hub, and the wheel in general in front. The rear aero work on the floor of the car matches Ferrari. The car overall hasn't changed much from last year which makes me think McLaren really feel it was Honda that was the issue.
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The way Alonso was driving it in Suzuka qualifying definitely would support that.
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@LMSCorvetteGT2 Ferrari will also have blown wheel nuts.
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How about we keep the car launches in the car launch thread, and use this thread for tech development, since that's what the thread title says. We have always kept car launches in their own threads.
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Everyone will, but the McLaren design isn't the same, look at the entire wheel and center hub. The wheel is slotted the entire diameter.
Launches provide technical analysts and development. There is also a pre-season test thread as well even though the tech thread provides the main purpose of that event. Which is tech development and shaking down the car.
If anything this thread could encompass all of that outside drivers and actual GP, but as I've said prior. Like archaic laws of silly dying religions there are still a few users that can't change their myopic conservative ways about how this forum shifts as time passes. Sorry but things aren't static
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I just think that including the launches and analysis of eleven cars that are being unveiled in the space of just forty-eight hours is a terrible idea. It will be completely disjointed and difficult to follow individual paths of discussion.
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Seems fine so far, this is the first bit of actual analysis we get to have, so why not have it? Just quote the posts and provide images, I've already given specific reasoning as to why I disagree with you on this in a prior post.
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That's because we've only had three of the eleven cars. Half a dozen are launching in the two hours before pit lane opens tomorrow.
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Three? By my count we've had four (since the mercedes has been seen just not hi-res studio stuff), parts from other cars have been seen and talked about. Other than that it wont be too hard to discuss. We're not talking about the schemes or anything just the new tech on the car that may or may not make them fast.
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Note: You're the only one complaining. Again.
Must be terrible to cover 11 individual teams progress over a Grand Prix weekend then without an individual thread for them! How come we don't have individual V8 Supercar, NASCAR threads for races? Or BTCC?
Also discussing the car is generally what we do in a "launch" thread, clue in the title there... and generally it is the car's tech that makes it go fast and is discussed. Unless launch threads are the "ooooh it's the pretty colours F1 Launch Thread!"
Apologies for off-topic, but this is becoming genuinely quite irritating lately.
Again, pulling random numbers again?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/35346038Car launches
Ferrari - launched
Haas - 21 February
Force India - TBC
Renault - launched
McLaren - 21 February
Mercedes - TBC
Red Bull - launched
Sauber - 1 March
Toro Rosso - TBC
Williams - launched
Manor - TBC
Two cars
EDIT: OK list didn't have Mercedes, which says Hi.
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Nobody's been making them.
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There is nothing stopping anyone from doing that. We have no rules on what threads can and cannot be created. Your abomination of a BTCC thread that is over 2 years old is your decision, not ours. No BTCC individual race threads is your decision, not ours.
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Because they've never been justified until now. Once upon a time, Formula One was the dominant motorsport in the subforum. Individual threads for other race series weren't needed because there wasn't enough support to merit them, and they would only clutter up the subforum. But now that they have the support base, individual threads would not be the problem that they once were. The obvious solution would be to create individual threads (within reason, of course; there's a big difference between a thread for a major race like Bathurst and a thread for a rumoured driver move), rather than forcibly condense everything into one thread the way you insist on doing because you're annoyed that Formula One gets individual threads when your preferred series does not (yet).
That's your source? Force India, Toro Rosso and Manor have all confirmed pit lane launches before pit labe opens. And Red Bull didn't launch the RB12 - they simply painted an RB11 in the RB12's livery.
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They've been justified, but no-one's been making them.
For some reason people prefer giant monolithic threads. Except when they don't.
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