2016 F1 Constructor tech info/development thread. (READ 1ST POST)Formula 1

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

This year, ten cars are being launched in the space of about 48 hours. If we had just one thread for all of that, it would be a total mess.

Argument makes no sense, when the China/Spanish GP, Canadian GP, Belgian GP and Singapore GP and also testing, where the cars all see major developments on the same GP weekend. Said developments get off loaded into this thread to save clutter for the respective GP thread (and rightly so) which is only to talk about the racing aspect.

If the thread can handle 11 cars all being developed and built upon in uniform timelines with respect to each team, then 11 cars being talked about with some being shown at the same day shouldn't be so hard. It seems like a conservative outlook on the entire manner that is held and up kept by older users still caught up in 2002-2005 of GTP. No other sub-forum does what the Motorsports one does.

EDIT: And monza configuration forgot that one.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

So a few updates, this seems to be the new Sauber nose which they posted about after passing their crash tests.

Mercedes has also increased it's power output over the break as well as becoming quite efficient in energy usage of the PU overall. Not that this news will make anyone that isn't a Mercedes fan happy.

Finally, Ferrari has changed up the layout to it's internal system, and is also running two intercoolers this season, one with in the chassis and the other one in the left side pod, with the clutch being in the gearbox. This was probably done to make a more neater package toward the rear, but only the release will show us if that's the case or not.

http://www.f1technical.net/news/20232

 

[Furinkazen]

Wehrlein confirmed at Manor.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

http://www.formula1.com/content/fom...-unit-layout-changes-could-boost-ferrari.html

more info on the Ferrari unit I posted up earlier on this page.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Sebastian Vettel has revealed on Twitter that the new Ferrari will officially be known as the Ferrari 667, though there has yet to be an explanation for this.

Elsewhere, Manor have revealed that their new car will be the MRT05, but there is still some confusion over their constructor name, so it might be the Manor MRT05 or the confusing MRT MRT05.

Otherwise, everyone else is just adding one to their previous chassis designation - like the McLaren MP4-31, Williams FW38 and the Red Bull RB12. Haas remains the only team to confirm their chassis nane.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Mercedes reckon that despite the complexity of the engine regulations, Formula One is now more accessible to engine manufacturers than it has been in decades:

http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122770/f1-now-easier-for-new-manufacturers

 

[TenEightyOne]

Sebastian Vettel has revealed on Twitter that the new Ferrari will officially be known as the Ferrari 667, though there has yet to be an explanation for this.

It's in sequence, last year's was Project 666, 2014 was Project 665 and so on. I expect the "proper" designation will be SF-166T or something similar.

 

[Solo]

Spent the evening at a talk with Paddy Lowe, where he confirmed that in the technical meeting today the 'halo' driver protection will be mandated from 2017.

Whilst not strictly 2016 news this is the best place for it I felt as it'll lead to a lot of development during the year.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Spent the evening at a talk with Paddy Lowe, where he confirmed that in the technical meeting today the 'halo' driver protection will be mandated from 2017.

Whilst not strictly 2016 news this is the best place for it I felt as it'll lead to a lot of development during the year.

It's fine, I usually carry over news to the next season as it comes to fruition. Any news this year or future wise is good news 👍

 

[G_Parrilla]

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Sergio Marchionne is still pushing for Alfa Romeo to return to Formula One, arguing that it's necessary if they want to rebuild their image - and he reckons that they have the resources to develop their own chassis:

http://m.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/122782/alfa-romeo-must-consider-f1-return

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Mercedes and McLaren also released videos of firing up engines for the first time like Ferrari did almost a week ago, but Mercedes decide to give a glimpse of their exhaust solution for 2016

Also an image of the many solution layouts for the wastegate exhaust

 

[Roger the Horse]

Are Sauber going to miss the first test or will they use last year's car?

 

[Dan Hill]

Are Sauber going to miss the first test or will they use last year's car?

I think Sauber said their 2016 car won't be ready for the first test but should for the second.

 

[Roger the Horse]

I guessed that from when they were due to be launching their car. Will they be at the first test with the 2015 car though?

 

[Furinkazen]

Got a feeling this years Ferrari will be very good after last years effort.

 

[Dan Hill]

I guessed that from when they were due to be launching their car. Will they be at the first test with the 2015 car though?

I think that's their plan.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Are Sauber going to miss the first test or will they use last year's car?

They will be using last years car, this news was posted earlier in the thread.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Got a feeling this years Ferrari will be very good after last years effort.

They've already started downplaying expectations, arguing that the late-season development push at the end of last year meant that they had to redirect resources away from the 2016 car

 

[GTPorsche]

 

[Tired Tyres]

Got a feeling this years Ferrari will be very good after last years effort.

Why? You realise they were further away from Mercedes by the end of the season than they were at the start of the season?

 

[mustafur]

At Brazil they were really close.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

At Brazil they were really close.

...How so, and the other issue people aren't coping with is that Ferrari are making this year a "radical" design move, which historically for Ferrari isn't good. Last time they went this route they came up with the worst front suspension. Now granted the shift in their staffing may mean they wont have the same problems of the past.

The problem is that Mercedes have said their engine build has much more potential than shown and with the power they've been able to gain and efficiency ratings with increased power since 2014 is quite astounding. I think the Ferrari will be further back, and are designing and setting up for crucial tracks they feel they can pull one over on Mercedes. Which is why they are going with a tighter rear, small gearbox and split intercoolers.

With that said their are still things the entire grid is taking note from that Mercedes has done, Ferrari being one of those teams. So in reality I can see the gap maintained or increased if it is decreased it will be only at a few tracks.

 

[GTPorsche]

I don't know how radical they're going, but they are switching back to a pushrod suspension, so there should be improvement there.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I don't know how radical they're going, but they are switching back to a pushrod suspension, so there should be improvement there.

That's about the only normal or "roots" type idea they're going with as far as the car goes from everything I've posted and seen rumored. To me they're clearly going to be in second spot from the drop but how much they may be able to mitigate that Mercedes lead is something we'll wait for. Clearly the other radical car (williams) think they too can take a fight a certain times to Mercedes. Overall the key factor that makes me think they wont be a threat is cause they've all claimed that 2017 is probably when they'll be able to mount a challenge dependent on rules.

 

[mustafur]

I hate it when people try to predict something before its even been seen on track.

Testing will give us clues but even that is very hard to workout.

The Regulations are still quite open on the engine side and with Ferrari having radical changes in that area it's not something we are going to predict with accuracy where they end up before we see some laps.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

I hate it when people try to predict something before its even been seen on track.

Testing will give us clues but even that is very hard to workout.

The Regulations are still quite open on the engine side and with Ferrari having radical changes in that area it's not something we are going to predict with accuracy where they end up before we see some laps.

And I dislike when people are upset because they don't want to accept the reality of F1 when a team starts a dominant era. The issue is you're trying to predict something due to one race, a race where Mercedes easily got the pole like they had been for the past two years at that point and basically maintained a 1-2 finish. Ferrari weren't a threat, Mercedes had already locked up both championships and only needed to keep Ferrari at arm's length, not smash them.

Then Mercedes talk about how they have their own engine growth they're implementing along with the other three...which shows they clearly haven't hit the ceiling like people seem to think exists? Sorry the Mercedes has more than 900hp combined and no other manufacture is boasting numbers cause they probably can't match, then to top it off with a team that all others are following design ideas from and you think that the writing may be on the walls for Mercedes.

Sounds like quite the story I heard last year around this time where Ferrari would catch up due to the tokens. However, tokens still exist the engine builds aren't completely free as you seem to think. Now in 2017 that will be a different story.

Main point is people think or wish Mercedes to have hit a peak and everyone else is trying to finally reach that level, when in reality Mercedes too have yet to hit their peak and that's the scary reality.

 

[mustafur]

Im not trying to predict anything, im just saying in one of the last races they where not that far off.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Im not trying to predict anything, im just saying in one of the last races they where not that far off.

Yeah and I easily explained why that was the case.

 

[GTPorsche]