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Nico a lot more popular in a country that isn't germany, Lewis saying he likes Tacos to fit in 
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well now that they have outlawed it there is a point to be made.
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Since last week the FIA added a rule. So yes VET deserves a penalty for moving under braking. Bull**** rule but applies to every driver.
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I'm not seeing the double move, what I'm seeing is a lock up and slight tank slapper..
EDIT: never mind I've seen it now that there was a longer recap of it. Vettel did move slight left and then started braking closing the door ever so slightly. And then he couldn't stop moving over left cause he locked it up. So I do think Vettel screwed up there.
EDIT: never mind I've seen it now that there was a longer recap of it. Vettel did move slight left and then started braking closing the door ever so slightly. And then he couldn't stop moving over left cause he locked it up. So I do think Vettel screwed up there.
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Arguably Vettel is the first to do it since the rule was strengthened... so yes, I think so
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I agree with your point regarding moving under braking but the last bit about it applying to every driver. This is the FIA we're talking about.
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If only the last clip that @Jimlaad43 posted was a bit earlier down the straight you'd see it
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Look at my edit
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I'm rather sure that we had a situation like that already in Austin with the new rule in place where nothing happend either.Arguably Vettel is the first to do it since the rule was strengthened... so yes, I think so
The point with Hamilton surely is that he made a big mistake and at another track he'd either have been in a wall and out of the race or in a gravel trap and at worst lose a few places. Him going grasscutting and missing an entire corner didn't gain him any places or time but it did prevent him losing any.
Yes, it doesn't actually affect the race result as it turns out with 5s added on but I don't see how they can let it slide for him but penalise Max for the same thing.
Perhaps next year they should take the grass up and replace it with the big humps like other tracks. You shouldn't be overshooting T1 and going off track, missing T2 entirely and losing nothing IMO.
Yes, it doesn't actually affect the race result as it turns out with 5s added on but I don't see how they can let it slide for him but penalise Max for the same thing.
Perhaps next year they should take the grass up and replace it with the big humps like other tracks. You shouldn't be overshooting T1 and going off track, missing T2 entirely and losing nothing IMO.
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I was typing that while you obviously edited it. Feel like a noob now
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That Ricciardo-Vettel move is why F1 drivers are so elite, locking brakes, tired cars and tires and no contact while being this close.
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Nah don't I'm just highlighting so you can see where I screwed up
, and then acknowledged it.
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That wasn't Bernie but still the best moment of the season so far.
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I mean I can see your argument from a consistency point. However, watching the series for so long, this has always been the case, if you go off with no one around but gain an advantage you slow up a bit to restore the original gap. But you don't get penalized as if some hypothetical of "well if this was Suzuka there would be sand there...". You should punish based on the situation of course and not based on what places would be less forgiving if said move happened there.
I recall earlier this year with Canada and people cutting turn 8 or 13 can't remember which. But Nico did it at one point and slowed up to restore the gap and I think Lewis as well. The difference here is, there was an actual fight for position and so in the Kvyat situation a place and advantage was gained and never returned, which I found it strange how a driver wouldn't be aware of that. Then the Max and Seb battle, sure Max was ahead but he gained an advantage after making a mistake to stay ahead. Both situations are slightly different but result in the same issue. It's about advantages gained not potential outcomes of the mistake had it been somewhere else.
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If you look back at the Vettel Max situation, Max didn't gain anything as Vettel was still on his ass after turn 2, whereas Lewis was 10 car lengths away after his grassy trip.
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Vettel is under investigation for his move?
Edit RBR are having sterns talks with Charlie and his inconsistent henchmen.
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Vettel is under investigation for his move?
Edit RBR are having sterns talks with Charlie and his inconsistent henchmen.
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Ideally I would like to see going off-track being enough physical deterrent for the drivers, either resulting in damage to the cars or forcing the drivers to slow down to maintain control of the vehicles. This enforcement of track limits like how a football player would be marked offside is quite amateur.
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I really think that it being at the start of the race and the Safety Car following it right away are the only reasons why Lewis didn't got a penalty. Of course he gained a massiv advantage, but the Safety Car immediately took this advantage away.
