2016 Rio Olympics & Paralympics
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It doesn't really change anything. When we're talking about a sport whose founders valued respect towards the opponent above all, this guy - or the Saudi who refused to face an Israeli outright - shouldn't be participating in the first place. Their respective federations could do with a collective punishment too if they've been endorsing that behavior.
Even the North Koreans have been genuinely sportsmanlike in the Olympics, but for some, I guess it's just too damn difficult to act like a human.
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Damned if he does damned if he doesn't, you should really understand the circumstances before calling him a looser. Was it in the nature of the Olympics? no but some things go beyond that.
He already bowed before so he didn't break any actual rules. I understand both sides of the argument but I feel he has every right to not shake hands providing the obvious tension between two countries with such history.
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Again, he could've averted the whole situation by never taking up a sport whose spirit is entirely in conflict with his - and his brethren's, for that matter - nonexistent honor code.
And for the record, no, I will not even pretend to bother to "understand" the Egyptians' blanket hatred for an entire nation and its athletes.
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- Anoka, MN
So he should give up something I'm guessing he enjoys doing and is extremely good at because he's afraid of his head becoming separate from his body?
If I were in the situation of having to chose between pissing off the internet and getting my head cut off I would choose the first in a heartbeat.
Ah the irony...
Edit: Also, Hope Solo is a disgrace to the U.S. and the Olympics as a whole, but that's been known for years.
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He might enjoy it, but obviously doesn't show capability of living up to the code. That's good for nothing.
Though since the fault is in Egyptian society and their attitudes as a whole (along with other toxic countries like Saudi Arabia) the bulk of the punishment should, again, go to their respective Olympic federations. I have seen no condemnation from their part yet, which is a pretty massive red flag.
Please do elaborate.
This I can get behind though. I almost forgot about her existence, but find happiness in the fact she lost.
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- Anoka, MN
There is a basic code of life though and a part of that is self-preservation.
Why should there be any punishment? It's not like he spit in the guys face or anything, he just walked backwards.
Your above response and your attitude in the OCE section regarding Islam should give you a hint.
She doesn't have the best track record.
That combined with her atrocious sportsmanship after losing makes me wonder why she is on the team no matter how good she may be.
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He was happy enough to get all touchy during the match, yet one little handshake - or even a high five - was too much for him.
The punishment would be for bringing politics into the Olympics, if not for breaking the code of the sport that, again, doesn't seem to suit him if he's just going to be a hypocrite.
Israelis haven't chosen their nationality yet get disproportionately hated for it by masses of Muslims in surrounding countries. It's not hard for me to choose where my sympathies lie.
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- Anoka, MN
When someone with a history of beheading people is threatening to do the same to you if one of those things happen, yes, yes it is.
Which is a rule that is near impossible to enforce considering even the national anthem of any country can be seen as political.
Every athlete at some point or another has broken the code of their sport.
You've been roasted enough over this in the OCE forum so I'm just going to leave it there.
Meanwhile at the BBC...
I never realized shape shifting was a Jedi power.
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If we assumed he is a good person and holds genuine respect for his opponent, why on earth is he representing a country that would ostracize him in a heartbeat for such petty reasons? Why would he be proud of his nationality?
Point taken, however if his own federation's going to praise him for acting unsportsmanlike, and the Olympic committee does nothing either, how will he ever learn what's right and what's wrong?
I take it as in you don't have an argument against that, then?
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Wait what? how is him not taking up a sport make any difference or solve any issues.
Fine if you don't understand you don't need to but calling someone who worked his ass of for years in a nation that does little to support it's athletes and competed in the Olympics a loser for this is laughable.
and again, why should he be punished for unsportsmanship conduct against someone who represents a nation that has been at war with his country for years.
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No military action has been taken between them for quite a while though, has it? North and South Korea are also still officially at war, but their athletes had the decency to show a heartwarming sign of friendship in spite of that.
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Guaranteed silver medal for Delpo! Riveting match, with choking and counter-choking and quality in between.
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The 1896 Olympics is another strong candidate for that title.
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