2016 Rio Olympics & Paralympics

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Stupid Cavendish just wiped out like 3 riders in the Velodrome by making a cocky move cutting down across the track! Totally his fault and they really should penalise him for it in some way.

The Korean rider is on a stretcher! I hope he is OK.

As someone said on Twitter, has Cavendish been playing Road Rash?!

 
Begging for photoshop.

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I just watched the winning performance in the individual dressage... with all due respect, but that looked like one of the most un-Olympic events I could possibly imagine, especially compared to the events where you're putting yourself through sweat, tears and in some cases absolute physical agony (swimming, athletics, rowing, weight-lifting e.t.c).
Oh, like archery, shooting, golf...?

Have a crack at getting a horse to change gaits and direction with that amount of precision and tell me how little effort it takes. As a hint, it doesn't - I find even riding the bloody things exhausting, but keeping the fine control over your seating and feet positions to make the animal move like that is nightmarish and needs a boatload of strength and skill.
 
Hmm, Russian boxer given the gold medal in the heavyweight final, in a match he was outclassed in...

He looked apologetic when the announcement was made.
 
Hmm bittersweet for me after what he did...

I am really really angry about all this, Twitter went from 'he's a disgrace' to 'he's a national hero' in 15 minutes!

This blind glory supporting is extremely irritating, if you win by merit fair enough and I'm all for it but if you pull a stunt like that and everybody loves you just because you increased the medal haul it says a lot about the nation and it's really embarrassing. Even the BBC coverage seemed to have a conveniently short memory.

I guess it doesn't matter if your a d*** so long as you bring home the bacon for queen and country. He was even moaning after he won about only getting Silver... tell that to the guy in hospital!

This tweet pretty much sums it up...

 
if you win by merit fair enough

To be fair to Cavendish it didn't look intentional (he's looking straight ahead when he makes the move and I guess he thought Park had backed off), he apologised for it, the officials decided it didn't warrant a penalty and ultimately it didn't affect Viviani's gold so I'm not sure how he didn't earn his silver on merit really.

Won't deny he's a bit of an arse though. Although I have to admit it's a wee bit entertaining when he gets ratty with the press :lol:
 
This blind glory supporting is extremely irritating, if you win by merit fair enough and I'm all for it but if you pull a stunt like that and everybody loves you just because you increased the medal haul it says a lot about the nation and it's really embarrassing. Even the BBC coverage seemed to have a conveniently short memory.
Individual cases may of course have their own circumstances that aren't immediately visible but to use an example that we've all heard of Justin Gatlin comes to mind.
He's failed drugs tests in the past but wins (silver, admittedly) medals. Go USA but don't let those cheating Russians turn up to play.

Edit: My word this is quite a finish to the Men's Pole Vault! Almost as exciting as the Long Jump turned out to be.

Edit again: Hopefully the audience thought they were just doing pantomime style booing there. It wasn't right from a spirit of athletics point of view.
Brazilian Thiago Braz De Silva wins a surprise gold!
 
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Hmm, Russian boxer given the gold medal in the heavyweight final, in a match he was outclassed in...

He looked apologetic when the announcement was made.

I really believed he lost in that 3 round, he got rocked hard and was put in a position where he slipped up and fell. I feel round 1 and 3 went to Levit.
 
To be fair to Cavendish it didn't look intentional (he's looking straight ahead when he makes the move and I guess he thought Park had backed off), he apologised for it, the officials decided it didn't warrant a penalty and ultimately it didn't affect Viviani's gold so I'm not sure how he didn't earn his silver on merit really.

Won't deny he's a bit of an arse though. Although I have to admit it's a wee bit entertaining when he gets ratty with the press :lol:
To the untrained eye it looked like a blatant 'foul', but the commentators (perhaps a bit biased, but who knows) seemed convinced that it was an accident - although Cavendish appears to look right at the Korean guy seconds before the crash, the Korean guy is also looking down (as both riders were above where they would normally have been on the track) and Cavendish may well have interpreted that (or even seen that) as if the Korean rider was moving back down to lower on the track, and then Cav crashed into him as he moved back to a lower line. I can't tell for sure, but I am glad that riders who fall (like the eventual winner) are able to rejoin and that the number of laps completed is not a factor. A pity for the Korean guy though, as it was a nasty spill, but I think it would be wise to give Cavendish the benefit of the doubt and not jump to conclusion that he deliberately injured a fellow competitor.... apart from anything else, Cav was very lucky not to crash himself and lose any chance of a much sought-after Olympic medal, so why would he risk it with a deliberate crash?
 
I find even riding the bloody things exhausting, but keeping the fine control over your seating and feet positions to make the animal move like that is nightmarish and needs a boatload of strength and skill.

I don't deny that it takes skill but I wouldn't be sad to see it omitted from future Olympics.

Dressage
Golf
Tennis
Rugby
Football
Synchronised Swimming
Show Jumping
Table Tennis
Badminton

Do one. They don't fit into my personal "arbitrary list of what should be an Olympic event".
 
Surely that rules out the entirety of gymnastics?

Arguably one of the most physically demanding sports in terms of all round strength, stamina, coordination and skill.
 
Surely that rules out the entirety of gymnastics?

Arguably one of the most physically demanding sports in terms of all round strength, stamina, coordination and skill.
You could change the way it's judged so that there is no room for interpretation. Make it degrees of difficulty only with a time limit and penalize major faults only. Would completely change the look of the sport but it could be done. Might even make it better as speed and power would be premiumized and difficulty levels would likely rise as well. It would be much less predictable.
 
Surely that rules out the entirety of gymnastics?

Arguably one of the most physically demanding sports in terms of all round strength, stamina, coordination and skill.
Yep. And boxing, diving, figure-skating (for the Winters) and so on.

If it has a score subject to opinion, rather than objective (even if arbitrary, like rugby or American Football) events or a stopwatch, it shouldn't be classed as a sport.

That shouldn't diminish from the physical effort required. After all, strongman competitions and competitive eating are incredibly physically demanding - but aren't considered sports. And @Liquid might reconsider badminton after a few games with me... :D
 
They should all be made to do it naked like originally intended. That includes the horses.

And 'running in armour' should be brought back too while they're at it!
 
I don’t think that anything that requires a judge's opinion to score it should be a sport.
After seeing another boxer robbed because judges can't judge, I agree.*

I see there being an investigation over Conlan's 'loss' as well as Levit's 'loss' last night, both to boxers who were clearly outclassed, and both being Russian. What a disgrace.


*I agreed beforehand anyway for what it's worth.
 
If it has a score subject to opinion, rather than objective (even if arbitrary, like rugby or American Football) events or a stopwatch, it shouldn't be classed as a sport.
That would be a huge backwards step for several martial sports.

You'd then be in a position where sports like boxing would revert back to knockout/submission. That'd be absurd, and a rather daft suggestion.
 
That would be a huge backwards step for several martial sports.

You'd then be in a position where sports like boxing would revert back to knockout/submission. That'd be absurd, and a rather daft suggestion.
Why is there a need for them to change?

As I mentioned, there are several things needing tremendous physical strength, skill and discipline that are not considered to be sports. Why do they need to be sports though? What's wrong with something not being a sport? Does it make the thing less valid somehow?
 
That would be a huge backwards step for several martial sports.

You'd then be in a position where sports like boxing would revert back to knockout/submission. That'd be absurd, and a rather daft suggestion.

These are technically contests, not sports. Sports are a subset of the former.
 
Why is there a need for them to change?

As I mentioned, there are several things needing tremendous physical strength, skill and discipline that are not considered to be sports. Why do they need to be sports though? What's wrong with something not being a sport? Does it make the thing less valid somehow?
They would need to change if they were to meet your standard for inclusion in the Olympics.

The Olympics are a huge source of exposure for all the sports involved, and allows sports to gain participation and financial support. It's why several sports are always pushing to be involved in the next Olympics. Some only do it for the prestige (golf, sevens).
These are technically contests, not sports. Sports are a subset of the former.
Please can you explain the difference?
 

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