2017/18 Premier League & General Football Discussion
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Arsenal 1-1 Chelsea in the Community Shield with Arsenal winning 4-1 on penalties, Moses and Kolasniac with the goals and Chelsea had Pedro sent off perhaps controversially, the new ABBA pen system was used, Chelsea missed two in a row, Keeper Courtois took one and skied it and new £70 million signing Morata put his penalty wide.
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- christara321
Wow a fifty million raise in Barca,s original valuation of a player?
Barcelona launch £72million transfer bid for Liverpool’s Philippe Coutinho
Barcelona to splash £120m for Coutinho - How Neymar's exit impacts Prem
Barcelona launch £72million transfer bid for Liverpool’s Philippe Coutinho
Barcelona to splash £120m for Coutinho - How Neymar's exit impacts Prem
) of your club's budget or I'll decline. Basically that.
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- m8h3r
If say yes purely because a year ago 90 million was a hell of a fee for a player and in the space of 11 months that fee more than doubled. This money is not anywhere near a "large" amount of money, it's ludicrous. The things that could be done with 200 million....
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- christara321
I,d probably agree with you but for me circumstances dictated the price?
Firstly City have not bought a full back in god know how many years in the first team, And then you look at the age of what we had.
All four full backs age 30+ (Cliche/Zabba/Sanga/kolarov) coming to end of contracts and what do you do. Renew them or get in inexperience to replace them.
Get inexperience and yes you can get cheaper players but then you take a risk of being criticised week in week out like last year for the defense. Probably also a reason for replacing what we had.
Just by buying experience doesn,t guarantee your not going to get mistakes but it increases your odds that your getting someone who should be ok.
Plus you also buy more than one so you have a rotation of players, To cover injury's and work rate for all competitions.
Plus the selling club knew of city's mistake by allowing players to leave before having cover to replace them, So clubs knew to up the price.
Look at the Van Dyke situation, City walked away from that because Saints tried the same kind of trick luckily for us we had cover and there price went up and up and they appear to be playing clubs off against each to boost his value. City gave up at 40+ million but you never know we might still go back in for him, Now the price looks to be nearing 60 mil? Who knows what a strange market place is happening.
Its happening with every club at the moment. So am undecided if its a crazy market or just clubs doing good business. (That would be the selling club?)
Also would like to add that Dani alves looked be a done deal at City but he appeared to get his head turned by PSG money where he was going to get better wages?
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2017/jul/11/dani-alves-psg-manchester-city
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FFP...
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- christara321
Looks like champions league could be fun this year, 
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- Bratvegas
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If TV broadcast money bloats a club's coffers, there's nothing FFP can do about it. A club's income isn't just the tickets sold on a Saturday. The only issue is when the broadcast bubble is going to burst; it happened with ITV Digital for Football League clubs and whilst that was on a smaller scale than the potential of Sky, Star TV, NBC, Fox et al withdrawing their funding, if those deals do go belly up it's going to be a cataclysmic fissure which could destroy a lot of high-ranking professional teams.
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I hope this isn't a repost but has anyone seen the video ref making a correct decision in the Dutch Super Cup? It changed the game from 2-0 to 1-1 when a penalty not given by the referee was quickly counter-attacked into a goal for Feijernood before the video ref brought to attention that a penalty against Feijernoord should have been awarded.
With the ball out of play following the quick goal, the referee analysed the footage and brought play back. Vitesse converted it to level the game.
Good stuff. It might have been a glorified friendly but this will matter in big games.
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I know, right?
I was just thinking back to the years it was a three hour show produced in a literal broom cupboard, with Tim Lovejoy, Helen Chamberlain and Brian Regan presenting it, sketches where the random crew - producers and runners - played ludicrous characters, the Rob Jones car park challenge, the Soccerette...
Then Regan was fired for a very loud 🤬 (and has since been sent to prison as an accessory to murder), Lovejoy left for a cooking show - taking Fenners and Sheephead with him - Hells Bells had to put up with Andy Goldstein for ten minutes, then Max Rushden (who?), then Fenners came back as a presenter and the producers and runners became the 'stars' - Fenners, Tubes, Rocket and so on.
It's now 90 minutes long and has Fenners, Jimmy Bullard and someone called Lloyd Griffith presenting...
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Fun facts according to the Bank of England inflation calculator:
Alan Shearer's 1996 £15 million transfer is £25 million in today's money.
Neymar's 2017 £200 million transfer is £122 million in 1996 money.
I was interested just in the raw economic figure to determine how wayward transfer fees might have become. It just shows how much money has flooded into the game and opened up or corrupted, depending on your view, the markets:
If 1996 Alan Shearer was playing today £25 million would be an absolute bargain and you'd be expecting treble that figure at a minimum these days;
nobody in the 1990s is paying £122 million for a player. Almost not even a tenth of that.
Alan Shearer's 1996 £15 million transfer is £25 million in today's money.
Neymar's 2017 £200 million transfer is £122 million in 1996 money.
I was interested just in the raw economic figure to determine how wayward transfer fees might have become. It just shows how much money has flooded into the game and opened up or corrupted, depending on your view, the markets:
If 1996 Alan Shearer was playing today £25 million would be an absolute bargain and you'd be expecting treble that figure at a minimum these days;
nobody in the 1990s is paying £122 million for a player. Almost not even a tenth of that.
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- zzxxz
It looks as though the system has been implemented perfectly. I don't like the idea of a game being stopped to watch a replay in case it's not a foul so it's fair to wait for the ball to go out of play. The only 2 questions I have are:
Does the lost time go on to added time at the end?
How on Earth was the penalty not given in the first place?
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It wasn't supposed to be a be-all and end-all analysis of football transfers, just an interesting figure to consider.
That £200 million is 40% of PSG's turnover only highlights the amount of money in the game these days whether through direct ownership or indirect sponsorship, in my opinion.
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Liverpool want 120 million Euros for Coutinho, that's £109 million...
Know what I like about Coutinho?, all this talk about him and he must want to go to Barcelona, but he hasn't kicked off about it, he's been training as normal, played full part in pre-season and the friendlies, hasn't put in a transfer request nor released a statement, been a great professional about the whole thing.
Van Dijk should take note....
Know what I like about Coutinho?, all this talk about him and he must want to go to Barcelona, but he hasn't kicked off about it, he's been training as normal, played full part in pre-season and the friendlies, hasn't put in a transfer request nor released a statement, been a great professional about the whole thing.
Van Dijk should take note....
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This is why I voted transfer fees are not out of hand. Clubs aren't breaking sweat with them compared to the 90's. Transfer fees being higher nowadays is directly a result of there being higher revenues from TV rights and worldwide branding.
It's wages which have increased significantly in comparison to transfer fees, and they are slightly out of control. Spurs for example will struggle to keep everyone if they don't win anything soon as the wage structure is unlikely to be broken anytime soon, why should Eriksen or Alli stay when players like Theo Walcott or Jesse Lingard, who are bang average, are making more than them?
Truth being told, any of the top 6 could probably break the old transfer record set by Pogba if they wanted to, but someone commanding that fee would command big wages, which would need a wage restructure at the club. It's why Spurs won't get Bale again despite some fans wishing for it, as we'd have to increase our other stars wages, probably by 100k a week each.
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