2019 Formula 1 Grand Prix de MonacoFormula 1

[FoxMulder]

It's going to be crazy going from commercial free ESPN coverage to the ad riddled Indy 500.

 

[Tak[TEC]]

Would be incredible to see how you would cope under such stress.

Ricciardo finished P1 with no MGUK last year, many drivers have had incredibly stressful moments in races (Rosberg Abu Dubai 2016 is a good example). Most drivers explain the problem they are having and ask what they can do to fix it, any time he gets an issue he just keeps whining about it like it'll go away if he does.

It's incredible how most other drivers can cope under such stress but he turns into a bitch the second it becomes too hard for him

 

[Dennisch]

It's going to be crazy going from commercial free ESPN coverage to the ad riddled Indy 500.

I go from ad free F1 to ad free Indy 500 to ad free Coca Cola 600. 1300 miles of ad free racing on 1 day.

 

[baldgye]

It's incredible how most other drivers can cope under such stress but he turns into a bitch the second it becomes too hard for him

When he turns into a bitch, how does he operate the steering wheel without thumbs?

 

[PzR Slim]

Ricciardo finished P1 with no MGUK last year, many drivers have had incredibly stressful moments in races (Rosberg Abu Dubai 2016 is a good example). Most drivers explain the problem they are having and ask what they can do to fix it, any time he gets an issue he just keeps whining about it like it'll go away if he does.

It's incredible how most other drivers can cope under such stress but he turns into a bitch the second it becomes too hard for him

Isn't it a wonderful world we live in where everyone is different?

 

[Dennisch]

Max had a smile on his face in the post race interview. He looked like he had a great time pushing Lewis into panic mode.

 

[niky]

It's incredible how most other drivers can cope under such stress but he turns into a bitch the second it becomes too hard for him

It's incredible how most other drivers can win five championships without whining as much.

Oh, wait.

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Lewis is Lewis. He pushes 110% at all times, and he's absolutely brutal on his tires. And he knows it. It's something he's struggled with at McLaren versus Button. It's something he's struggled with at Mercedes in previous years. And it's something that Bottas seems to have a better handle on.

It's a known weakness, so yes, he is going to moan about the tires on the radio often. Because he is looking for feedback and reassurance from the engineers, to let him know if he's pushing too much or too little and if he should continue at 110% or 99% or some number in between.

Does it sound whiny and insecure? Yeah, maybe.

Does it help him win races? Definitely.

 

[andrea]

If Danny Ric could do it was half an engine a few tyre issues aint gonna be 🤬

 

[baldgye]

Sorry to interrupt this deep post-race analysis but no further action for the contact between Max and Lewis

 

[niky]

If Danny Ric could do it was half an engine a few tyre issues aint gonna be 🤬

No MGUK doesn't mean the engine is going to blow. It just means no power to defend. You can still stop, turn and accelerate. You can still push as hard as you can. The engine itself is still running.

(I recall Sebastian Vettel finishing a race several years ago with his exhaust falling off... he simply had to drive faster in the middle sector to make up for time lost on the straights).

With the tires, you cannot defend under braking, you cannot hold a tight turn as easily, and you have to be careful while accelerating, too. And if you push too hard, you can either blow the tires or push them off the cliff.

50 laps on the softs by Grosjean was impressive. But he was running nearly a lap down. Lewis did 67 on the mediums while still lapping half the field.

 

[Dennisch]

With the tires, you cannot defend under braking, you cannot hold a tight turn as easily, and you have to be careful while accelerating, too. And if you push too hard, you can either blow the tires or push them off the cliff.

And yet, it's Monaco so all he had to do was keeping his car in the middle of the track. If the track was a meter wider this could have been epic with the current cars.

 

[baldgye]

Lewis cries like a little bitch!

I guess it’s a change from people complaining that F1 is dead...

 

[Tak[TEC]]

It's a known weakness, so yes, he is going to moan about the tires on the radio often. Because he is looking for feedback and reassurance from the engineers

He didn't ask what he could do about the tires once this race, he was just blaming the team for putting him on Mediums. I get him doing that once, even twice if it was spaced out but 4-5 even possibly 6 times and to the point where a race engineer has to get their boss to get him to stop crying and just drive the car. Even the commentary team would literally say "Lewis is crying about his tyres again" on Sky.

And yet, it's Monaco so all he had to do was keeping his car in the middle of the track. If the track was a meter wider this could have been epic with the current cars.

Senna did this in the 90s as well when his tyres were gone against Mansell, it's just the way Monaco is even with smaller cars

 

[TenEightyOne]

It's incredible how most other drivers can cope under such stress but he turns into a bitch the second it becomes too hard for him

If you're there to win races and somebody else is making decisions that affect that... you're going to question them, strongly.

He didn't ask what he could do about the tires once this race, he was just blaming the team for putting him on Mediums. I get him doing that once, even twice if it was spaced out but 4-5 even possibly 6 times and to the point where a race engineer has to get their boss to get him to stop crying and just drive the car.

I watched on Sky so I only heard the messages the race director chose to air, obviously you were party to the whole feed. With that said it was the team who chose mediums, and they certainly looked like the wrong tyre. So there you go.

 

[baldgye]

I watched on Sky so I only heard the messages the race director chose to air, obviously you were party to the whole feed. With that said it was the team who chose mediums, and they certainly looked like the wrong tyre. So there you go.

Imagine hating a driver complaining or being upset so much, you tune into to listen to every single radio broadcast... to then later complain about it

 

[Tak[TEC]]

I.... was watching the race?


It was Karun Chandhok mentioning it, go back and watch the race again if you really don't believe me
You seem to be posting a lot about me for someone who claims i'm just an Anonymous Internet User, you seem to be putting much more effort into adding meaningless posts about me, but that's your life so carry on

 

[baldgye]

I.... was watching the race?

And what a race it was!

Started out with repots of 90% rain.. we got underway and it seemed to be a fairly standard dull and clean start to the GP... then Leclerc started making it interesting... until he gets a bit silly and then BOOM excitedment all around, Merc double-stop Max drives into the side of Bottas and we then have a some 60+ race of attrition between Max and Lewis... amazingly tense and exciting.


A classic Monaco GP

 

[SVX]

Um, I watched on Sky and heard the remark from Chandhok (at least I thought it was him) about the tyres too, in fairness.

Hamilton does have a bit of a habit of being vocal about his issues, but so do every other driver, or... Pretty much any sporting personality ever. The moment someone causes an issue for someone else, it's blasted on the radio. Vettel was particularly vocal in 2017 I think it was. Hartley too.

I'm not the biggest fan of Hamilton myself - his off track personality never really sat well with me - but it's really hard to ignore when he puts in the goods during the race. Mega drive from the two of them. And good on Honda! Who would've thought that in their first season with RBR, their driver would be pulling away from a Ferrari veteran...

 

[sumbrownkid]

Man people talking about Lewis this, and Ferrari that.

I'm just happy Mclaren won Formula 1.5 today.

As for Honda, I don't think you can really put any praise or criticism for engines in general considering Monaco is way more chassis intense. If they can show speed at Spa, Monza, and COTA then sure.

 

[NotThePrez]

He didn't ask what he could do about the tires once this race, he was just blaming the team for putting him on Mediums. I get him doing that once, even twice if it was spaced out but 4-5 even possibly 6 times and to the point where a race engineer has to get their boss to get him to stop crying and just drive the car. Even the commentary team would literally say "Lewis is crying about his tyres again" on Sky.



Senna did this in the 90s as well when his tyres were gone against Mansell, it's just the way Monaco is even with smaller cars

Just to be clear, we are talking about the same team that claimed the FIA should've been easy on Red Bull because they, and I quote, "couldn't see past all the other mechanics," yes? The same team who, while experienced, aren't actually driving the cars or making strategy calls?

As noted earlier, HAM was upfront, challenging for a win, following directly behind him was a driver who not only was overall faster than him, but needed to pass and then run away from him in order to win the race. He at multiple time asked the team if they were confident in their strategy call. In the position HAM was in, I don't blame him for a second for questioning the teams call, because it was very much a make-or-break strategy.

 

[McLaren]

Maybe the US coverage is different, but I do remember our commentators finally remarking that Lewis was right and the front tires were in need of a really bad change. Didn't hear him complaining 6 times either, maybe 2-3 with his team chirping in a few times to give him encouragement. The last 10 laps or so, the commentators also said Lewis was being quiet and likely focusing.

 

[Dylan]

Maybe the US coverage is different, but I do remember our commentators finally remarking that Lewis was right and the front tires were in need of a really bad change. Didn't hear him complaining 6 times either, maybe 2-3 with his team chirping in a few times to give him encouragement. The last 10 laps or so, the commentators also said Lewis was being quiet and likely focusing.

USA gets the Sky Sports F1 feed.

 

[NotThePrez]

@McLaren we also get Sky Sports in the US.

Tree'd

 

[McLaren]

USA gets the Sky Sports F1 feed.

@McLaren we also get Sky Sports in the US.

Tree'd

Then there is some exaggeration going on just to call Lewis a "bitch". I fully remember the commentators at one point, agreeing with Lewis' concern on his tires, but noting if he does pit, he gives up the race.

It was a legitimate concern. The same commentators even said Max's tires were beginning to wear from his push on Lewis.

 

[PeterJB]

Few observations:

Vettel's gonna have a 2016 year where he win no races but consistently third-wheels with the Mercs on the podium while Ferrari do everything in their power to stop Leclerc winning races.

Despite still having the slowest car, Williams have joined Alfa Romeo and Mercedes as the only teams remaining with a clean finishing record, and Russell was actually able to finish ahead of some of their rivals, though this is probably the only where that's really possible.

Racing Point have massively fallen from grace since last season, going from fastest midfielder to slowest.

Giovinazzi is invisible. He's either gonna pull an Ide and cause a massive accident somewhere and get dropped, continue being average and get let go quietly, or be dropped at the end of the year and join the Giedo van der Gardes and Lucas di Grassis in the land of single-season nobodies, and be replaced with either an ill-prepared Mick Schumacher or god forbid Tatiana Calderon in one of the cleverest publicity moves in a long time.

Gasly needs to go, unless Red Bull are content with him filling the no man's land between the front runners and the midfielders.

 

[Jimlaad43]

Wrong thread lol

 

[baldgye]

Scary

 

[HenrySwanson]

Scary

That and the gaggle of marshals pushing the F2 car through the chicane after the tunnel were questionable decisions.

 

[AshenGraey]

Gasly needs to go, unless Red Bull are content with him filling the no man's land between the front runners and the midfielders.

They'll keep using him to get fastest lap points when possible and then give him the boot at the end of the season. His performance so far is very underwhelming especially when you can see what the same car can do at the hands of Verstappen.

 

[evldave333]

Ricciardo finished P1 with no MGUK last year, many drivers have had incredibly stressful moments in races (Rosberg Abu Dubai 2016 is a good example). Most drivers explain the problem they are having and ask what they can do to fix it, any time he gets an issue he just keeps whining about it like it'll go away if he does.

It's incredible how most other drivers can cope under such stress but he turns into a bitch the second it becomes too hard for him

I think its deliciously ironic you calling out anyone about being a bitch