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On the livery front. Here's Courtney's new one for the next two rounds.

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Just an update about Circuit Italia. Due to the rainy weather we've been having, the track is far from complete. I did get to look at a pic of one of the straights. Gives me classic Hockenheim vibes as trees line either sides of the track. My boss said the circuit owner is keen to get v8s there and also talked again about on of the corners being off-camber, with a predicted 200km/h entry. There's also a rise and fall" section of the circuit. I still haven't seen the virtual video one of my co-workers and the boss got to see.

Also, the circuit owner isn't close to getting any reporters in for a story, but he's happy for people to keep talking about it. Hoping to go for a ride with my workmate that's testing there. Most likely I'll have to wait like everyone else though.
 
I remember a few years ago in super 2, Fullwood set the fastest lap on the last lap of the race when there was a local yellow. He received a time penalty and lost the win, due to the officials saying that he shouldn’t be getting faster when there’s a yellow.
Shane did the same today, but he just seemed to be getting congratulated for it?
 
I remember a few years ago in super 2, Fullwood set the fastest lap on the last lap of the race when there was a local yellow. He received a time penalty and lost the win, due to the officials saying that he shouldn’t be getting faster when there’s a yellow.
Shane did the same today, but he just seemed to be getting congratulated for it?
Yeah I remember that. I think Randle did the same thing as well. To be honest after the Waters penalty. I'm a bit loss with what's right or wrong. Still good weekends worth of racing even though with the controversy's throughout the weekend.
 
I remember a few years ago in super 2, Fullwood set the fastest lap on the last lap of the race when there was a local yellow. He received a time penalty and lost the win, due to the officials saying that he shouldn’t be getting faster when there’s a yellow.
Shane did the same today, but he just seemed to be getting congratulated for it?
He actually set the fastest time on the second to last lap (lap 45) not the last one. He only did the fastest first sector of the race on the last lap (lap 46, sector one - 0:26.0306*) ;)

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Supposedly there's data from Le Brocq's car showing that he intentally turned Pye after the initial contact due to the overlap when Pye tried to cover him. We'll in my opinion they both have to take same blame like Scott said to Crompo. But there's no reason for Jack to go hard left spearing him into the fence. So it's a whole mess.
 
I don't know about any of you other guys but in the many, many times I've been squeezed in similar situations to Le Brocq in sim racing my automatic reaction is to push back (turn back to the left after the initial contact) so as not to be run fully off the road. Now I know it's not life threatening or car demolishing in a sim but the principle is exactly the same.

Could Le Brocq lift and should Le Brocq lift have two different answers imho. Yes he could have lifted but he was under absolutely no obligation to lift, so no, he shouldn't have lifted.

Sorry Scotty Pye, I like you as a driver but the obligation was solely on you to give a lane to the inside. He knew Le Brocq had a run on him or he wouldn't have tried to block so hard, so it's wrong for him to assume the other guy will back out, and FFS don't keep pulling over ''until you feel a touch'', it's too late then. I would have thought that airborne event on the grass next to the back straight a few years back at this same track would've taught him that.

Edit: Just to add, I bet Scott wouldn't have tried to crowd SVG like that :scared:

My 2 cents :)
 
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Well, this is a shock if true.


As a lifelong Holden guy and supporter of this team since the mid '90s. This is a bit of a hard pill to swallow, admittingly. Was really hoping that they were somehow going to bring someone new into the series.
 
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Well, this is a shock if true.


As a lifelong Holden guy and supporter of this team since the mid '90s. This is a bit of a hard pill to swallow, admittingly. Was really hoping that they were somehow going to bring someone new into the series.
Wow!!!! That is surprising... if true. Yeah, would've liked for them to bring in someone new too, but I didn't like that it may mean Grove Racing possibly going with them. This is definitely the next best option for us Fordies though... we get to welcome back Chaz!

Don't worry too much mate, we can get rid of that dirty old red blood of yours quick smart and get you fixed up with the good blue stuff. It won't hurt a bit, promise :dopey:;)


Disclaimer: Any promises made in this post are not necessarily true!
 
Well, this is a shock if true.


As a lifelong Holden guy and supporter of this team since the mid '90s. This is a bit of a hard pill to swallow, admittingly. Was really hoping that they were somehow going to bring someone new into the series.
If this happens I will never support WAU again. Having the team I love go from full-fledged factory outfit to a Holden privateer to a Ford team will stink on soo many levels. It just seems wrong and it will put a massive dampener on this new era. Yuck.
 
Hey, that should even the Ford v H..Chevy grid. I think.

Edit: I understand the business side of it with their road car program, but can’t help thinking Ryan also didn’t like the greenhouse of the Camaro for his drivers. Probably less of a headache to deal with. May seem like a nitpick to me, but trying to remember if Ryan mentioned that about the Gen3 car.
 
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Well, this is a shock if true.


As a lifelong Holden guy and supporter of this team since the mid '90s. This is a bit of a hard pill to swallow, admittingly. Was really hoping that they were somehow going to bring someone new into the series.
This is more shocking to me then GM killing Holden in my opinion and we all know what terrible time for the sport that was. We all know it's not the factory Holden team anymore, but the Walkinshaw name in Australia is synonymous with Holden (GM). It is really a sad day for the sport. I mean we should've expected the switch when they announced the alliance with the Grove's at the start of the year. Shame.

All I can say is. Cash is king.
 
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I mean we should've expected the switch when they announced the alliance with the Grove's at the start of the year. Shame.
I was more worried about the Groves going to the other side
All I can say is. Cash is king.
I think it could be more about where the cash is going... and if you race a Camaro it goes to Triple 8. WAU aren't happy with the monopoly deal that T8 has with the GM product, and neither are BJR.
 
Next year's championship is looking at little lopsided. WAU, Grove, Tickford and DJR on the Ford side vs T8 and maybe Erebus as the only other really competitive GM team? Oof.
Don't worry too much mate, we can get rid of that dirty old red blood of yours quick smart and get you fixed up with the good blue stuff. It won't hurt a bit, promise :dopey:;)
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Think this news would have hit a lot harder if Holden were still around. The whole Camaro vs Mustang rivalry just doesn't hold the same weight as Commodore vs Falcon did (as much as Skaife and co, will try and claim that it does). The brands are totally irrelevant after this year, once the Holden's are gone, imo.

Guess this is just my way of trying justify supporting WAU after this year? Don't know if I can bring myself to buy membership anymore though. :lol:
WAU aren't happy with the monopoly deal that T8 has with the GM product, and neither are BJR.
Yeah, I saw someone else mention that Brad isn't happy with the T8 monopoly on the Camaro, yesterday. At least on the Ford side, it seems like things are shared between the teams a little more. BJR has already committed to the Camaro, hasn't he? Would stir a few more up if they made the switch as well.
 
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I think it could be more about where the cash is going... and if you race a Camaro it goes to Triple 8. WAU aren't happy with the monopoly deal that T8 has with the GM product, and neither are BJR.
This is really bad for Supercars. If WAU are ending their relationship with Holden/Triple 8/Chevrolet for this reason then it's a very bad look for the whole series and could threaten the existence of it. Having Brad Jones express his displeasure about the development process is sure to cause a tonne of controversy and call the integrity of the championship into question. We want the competition to be fairer and if Triple 8 are not being transparent or working with the other teams in the same way as Ford, we have a serious problem.
 
Next year's championship is looking at little lopsided. WAU, Grove, Tickford and DJR on the Ford side vs T8 and maybe Erebus as the only other really competitive GM team? Oof.

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Think this news would have hit a lot harder if Holden were still around. The whole Camaro vs Mustang rivalry just doesn't hold the same weight as Commodore vs Falcon did (as much as Skaife and co, will try and claim that it does). The brands are totally irrelevant after this year, once the Holden's are gone, imo.

Guess this is just my way of trying justify supporting WAU after this year? Don't know if I can bring myself to buy membership anymore though. :lol:
I agree, team swaps don't mean as much these days to me either... especially when I've got my bases somewhat covered in the garage anyway. I've nearly* always been a Ford supporter on track and whatever's best for my current needs off the race track, but I also have drivers I follow all over the place these days (Larry Perkin's escapades in his old Volksy for one. What a friggin legend :bowdown:).

* I didn't follow Ford through the Sierra Cosworth years and instead followed anyone driving an Aussie built car.
Yeah, I saw someone else mention that Brad isn't happy with the T8 monopoly on the Camaro, yesterday. At least on the Ford side, it seems like things are shared between the teams a little more. BJR has already committed to the Camaro, hasn't he? Would stir a few more up if they made the switch as well.
Yeah I'm pretty certain BJR are committed but there's still talk of one more team switching, possibly MSR??? There was talk about them switching a long way back but I'll be buggered if I can remember if they'd committed to anything or not.
This is really bad for Supercars. If WAU are ending their relationship with Holden/Triple 8/Chevrolet for this reason then it's a very bad look for the whole series and could threaten the existence of it. Having Brad Jones express his displeasure about the development process is sure to cause a tonne of controversy and call the integrity of the championship into question. We want the competition to be fairer and if Triple 8 are not being transparent or working with the other teams in the same way as Ford, we have a serious problem.
Supercars owns the test car so T8 have no say (supposedly) in anything to do with that (data etc.) other than building it, it's more to do with the off track stuff as far as I know, stuff like fabrication of panels etc. It'll supposedly take away a lot of the teams ability to things inhouse, most notably of the GM ones left would be BJR and Erebus, as most of the others don't do much of anything anyway.
 
I've got my bases somewhat covered in the garage anyway.
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I've nearly* always been a Ford supporter on track and whatever's best for my current needs off the race track, but I also have drivers I follow all over the place these days (Larry Perkin's escapades in his old Volksy for one. What a friggin legend :bowdown:).
The last six years or so since Holden took their backing away from Walkinshaw. I've been more of a supporter of the team rather than any particular driver. Suppose at the end of the day. If a Mustang has to win, I'd rather it be a WAU one. Just a shame that GRM aren't around anymore. Because then at least I'd have someone to root for on the GM side.
Yeah I'm pretty certain BJR are committed but there's still talk of one more team switching, possibly MSR??? There was talk about them switching a long way back but I'll be buggered if I can remember if they'd committed to anything or not.
Oh yeah, I had totally forgotten about the MSR rumors. Have any of the MSR guys driven the Camaro prototype? Looking back on it, the fact that neither Chaz or Percat had anytime behind the wheel of the Chev was a massive clue of what was about to happen. :lol:
 
Supercars owns the test car so T8 have no say (supposedly) in anything to do with that (data etc.) other than building it, it's more to do with the off track stuff as far as I know, stuff like fabrication of panels etc. It'll supposedly take away a lot of the teams ability to things inhouse, most notably of the GM ones left would be BJR and Erebus, as most of the others don't do much of anything anyway.
I just hope that everything has been done in the best interest of the sport. Surely Brad can understand that having standardized parts means closer and more competitive racing; something his team is sure to benefit from.
 
I just hope that everything has been done in the best interest of the sport.
We're talking about T8 and best interest of the sport? These are words that just don't go in the same conversation. :sly: RD is a businessman, and a very astute one at that.
Surely Brad can understand that having standardized parts means closer and more competitive racing; something his team is sure to benefit from.
Standardized parts isn't the issue, it's that T8 produce the parts that BJR themselves could make in their own fabrication shop without being held to what T8 (as the monopoly company) is going to add on top of their production costs for their own profit. If you've got a captive market you can charge whatever you want.

There's also the chance of quality control issues. Well not so much quality control but tolerance issues. Every part and panel has tolerances and I'd bet Roland Dane's left nut that T8 will be getting the best of every batch... and I'm pretty sure his lefty would be safe.
Just a shame that GRM aren't around anymore.
👍Them, Larry Perkins and Stone Brothers. All top quality and great for the sport.
 
We're talking about T8 and best interest of the sport? These are words that just don't go in the same conversation. :sly: RD is a businessman, and a very astute one at that.
Yes I am apprehensive about it, hence why I said "I just hope"
Standardized parts isn't the issue, it's that T8 produce the parts that BJR themselves could make in their own fabrication shop without being held to what T8 (as the monopoly company) is going to add on top of their production costs for their own profit. If you've got a captive market you can charge whatever you want.

There's also the chance of quality control issues. Well not so much quality control but tolerance issues. Every part and panel has tolerances and I'd bet Roland Dane's left nut that T8 will be getting the best of every batch... and I'm pretty sure his lefty would be safe.
This is what I'm fearing too.
 
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