Ace Combat: Infinity

[Flaren89]

I'll personally look for the MiG-31... Not interested in the A-10 and even less for the GAF-1...

 

[Paulie]

Re: Machine Guns. I've always thought all the jets were equal for guns, bar the differences in role and level (a Fighter's machine gun is better against aerial targets than a multirole, a level 10 jet's guns are better than a level 7's etc.).
I once tried an FB-22 setup entirely for machine guns, with the theory of being able to wreck targets quickly with a near constant stream of destruction, but honestly it sucked. The amount of time required to line up and destroy each target was way too much compared to using conventional methods.

 

[Grandea GTR]

Re: Machine Guns. I've always thought all the jets were equal for guns, bar the differences in role and level (a Fighter's machine gun is better against aerial targets than a multirole, a level 10 jet's guns are better than a level 7's etc.).
I once tried an FB-22 setup entirely for machine guns, with the theory of being able to wreck targets quickly with a near constant stream of destruction, but honestly it sucked. The amount of time required to line up and destroy each target was way too much compared to using conventional methods.

I always found attempting to use machine guns end up being very tedious and cost too much time, as the targets (especially the high value ones) would move everywhere. The best times to use the MGs would be whenever they slow down and fly straight for a little while, which usually happens after a minute or two is spent.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Yaay.. Virgo Su-47 and Leo S/MTD.. both are worse than their tier IV regular counterparts.

 

[Louie_Schumii]

Haven't been online in a while. Just qualified for GT Academy Asia finals in Silverstone!

Thought I'd keep you guys updated with a couple of interesting things since my absence .

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[Paulie]

Haven't been online in a while. Just qualified for GT Academy Asia finals in Silverstone!

Thought I'd keep you guys updated with a couple of interesting things since my absence .

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd...._=1448549189_ffb52d15babe6fca2a31d14ba117e480

Weren't you in NZ?

 

[Louie_Schumii]

Weren't you in NZ?

Dual Citizen of Philippines and New Zealand so was lucky enough to have GT Academy pop up in my native country .

How's Ace Combat Infinity been since my absence anyway? Saw a couple of new goodies but the grind must still be ever present.

Also, all those level 4 special raids..."once you go black you never go back" .

 

[Morgoth_666]

Yaay.. Virgo Su-47 and Leo S/MTD.. both are worse than their tier IV regular counterparts.

Yeah, my level 2 MTD is better than the Leo(at least at level 1) with 1 less expansion bay slot. My level 3 Berkut is better than the Virgo by quite a bit with the same slots. I don't see anything about a challenge for that one, maybe something is upcoming?

Just joined a B7R room a bit under my MR(within 100) to finish the X-29 challenge. When I joined it was actually Stonehenge II, did that with 3 fuels and got S. Next mission finished the X-29 but it was almost full for the room bonus so I stayed, turned out the room bonus was 1.5x credits so I stayed again(both MVP with F-14A) and we got Stonehenge II again! Then... the host quit before we could make another 200k+.


Just a note: All money earned appears to go towards the challenges they put up. Not sure about drops, but the research refund and of course forced sortie bonus counted and so I'm sure a Mercenary contract would as well. It's not like some of the points challenges they've done where things like rescue bonus don't count. Glad I hoard so many research reports so I could finish everything, since I had just opened 3 items of research instead of the 2 I used to try to keep it at - I'll probably only be researching 1 from now on since everything is getting more expensive. Still not sure a million in 3 days is doable without a bunch of special raids.

6x forced sortie will get you 7.5x rewards, so it does keep amplifying the bonus instead of just being like running 2 triples at once. Still not sure if I'd use 6 unless we got a SR III with a decent crew. Probably wouldn't be worth it(for me) for a IV because it's really hard to get S on those unless everybody is a good bit better than me. Maybe for Moby Dick IV, that one I've done with an even crew -- barely. I've only had 2 or 3 SR IVs anyway. Got the emblem for Stonehenge when I'm not sure we even got a B on that one.


I know, I type a lot. Sorry.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

F-22B raptor is available from the ticket shop, as is Gripen (griffon) and special skin for it

 

[unit-one]

Just managed to shoot down a MiG-31 in Moscow with a B-1! They spawned right in front of me and were moving really slow. Good thing the GPBs are shooting forward.
The big airplanes are much easier to shoot down though. =)

 

[Grandea GTR]

Did Stonehenge for the first time today, but it was Stonehenge II actually.

Everyone kept getting blown up in the exact same place and I'm over here just like "wat"

Rank D. Meh.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

If I'd get sortie fuel every time high MR host ragequitted the room, I'd me playing the game 24/7..

 

[unit-one]

Today was a good day. Spent all of my collected fuel.
Got the last two airplanes that cost less than 1 million (Strike Raptor and Wyvern). And got the Newcom Delphinus! 8D
Now to get the super expensive planes.

I can make a video of my airplanes if someone is interested.

 

[Grandea GTR]

Today was a good day. Spent all of my collected fuel.
Got the last two airplanes that cost less than 1 million (Strike Raptor and Wyvern). And got the Newcom Delphinus! 8D
Now to get the super expensive planes.

I can make a video of my airplanes if someone is interested.

Go for it, dude.

Question for all:
On average, how much credits do you make in one sortie?

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

4-9k without boosts.

 

[unit-one]

Here's a vid:



Planes included:

Standard airplanes:

Fighters:
MiG-21bis (12,000)
F-16C Fighting Falcon (15,000)
F-20A Tigershark (17,850)
F-14A Tomcat (36,040)
MiG-29A Fulcrum (74,250)
F-14D Super Tomcat (70,540)
MiG-31B Foxhound (2,130)
F-15C Eagle (111,720)
F-15J (112,500)
X-29A (283,190)
Su-27 Flanker-B (408,320)
Su-33 Flanker-D (247,380)
Typhoon (453,560)
Su-35 Flanker-E (248,400)
Su-37 Terminator (226,800)
T-50 PAK-FA (673,920)
F-22A Raptor (673,920)
YF-23 Black Widow II (315,900)
ATD-0 (673,920)
ADF-01 FALKEN (810,000)

Multirole:
F-4E Phantom II (0)
J35J Draken (15,000)
F-5E Tiger II (18,000)
Mirage 2000-5 (17,850)
F-16F Fighting Falcon (36,040)
Gripen C (75,600)
Su-24MP Fencer (95,760)
F/A-18F Super Hornet (117,000)
EA-18G Growler (281,600)
F-15E Strike Eagle (408,320)
Rafale M (453,560)
MiG-1.44 Flatpack (248,400)
F-15 S/MTD (248,400)
F-35B Lightning II (557,960)
ASF-X Shinden II (432,000)
Su-47 Berkut (315,900)
ADFX-01 Morgan (688,800)
X-02 Wyvern (698,320)

Attackers:
F-4G Phantom II Weasel (18,000)
AV-8B Harrier II plus (17,850)
Su-25TM Frogfoot (28,560)
Su-24M Fencer-D (61,970)
F-2A (93,560)
F-16XL (171,000)
A-10A Thunderbolt II (153,000)
F-117A Nighthawk (162,000)
Su-34 Fullback (571,200)
FB-22 Strike Raptor (673,920)

Bomber:
B-1B Lancer (648,000)

Special airplanes:

Fighters:
F-16C -Gold Falcon- (1,560)
F-14A -Zipang- (3,776)
MiG-29A -Libra- (1,200)
F-15C -Pixy- (1,800)
Su-37 -Gene- (2,110)
ADF-01 -Osea- (2,700)
R-101 -Neucom- (3,040)

Multirole:
F-5E -Shin Kazama- (2,130)
Mirage 2000-5 -White Tiger- (1,430)
F-16F -Desert Rock- (1,980)
Gripen C -Griffon- (1,680)
ADFX-01 -Block1- (2,700)
ADFX-01 -Pixy- (32,250)

Attackers:
AV-8B -Kim Aba- (2,130)
F-2A -Nagase- (1,310)
A-10A -Distant Thunder- (1,410)
A-10A -Greg Gates- (1,310)

And some skins in the end.

 

[Paulie]

Go for it, dude.

Question for all:
On average, how much credits do you make in one sortie?

It varies so much! Depending on how many research slots are open, win/lose etc. At a guess, anywhere from maybe $10k-$20k.

 

[Morgoth_666]

Lucked out, got Moby Dick III. Used 6 fuels - 8 people(5th place - one got booted before we started) - S Rank - no respawns - no active research - no extra contracts - 797,000 credits + about 1,500 upgrade slot points.

That took care of both of those challenges.

 

[Paulie]

Lucked out, got Moby Dick III. Used 6 fuels - 8 people(5th place - one got booted before we started) - S Rank - no respawns - no active research - no extra contracts - 797,000 credits + about 1,500 upgrade slot points.

That took care of both of those challenges.

Did you use a Merc Contract? Pretty much doubles your earnings.

 

[Morgoth_666]

Did you use a Merc Contract? Pretty much doubles your earnings.

No, I didn't think about that until later, that it might have been worth it to use one just for that one mission. I usually only use them at the start of a day when I'll be playing at least 10-15 times, so to use one on my last sortie is a bit unusual for my brain to consider. I probably should have.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

Ohey, low level planes got a hefty price drop for upgrades. No more asking 270-300k+ for lvl5..

 

[Flaren89]

Yes. It came with update, but at first it wasn't up, they updated it with an hotfix internal on the server.

72k for 5 > 6 on F-4G/F-16C/MiG-21bis/J35J. Some say 9 > 10 costs little more than 500k for these crafts now.
X-29 (most expensive on cheaped planes) 5 > 6 is around 161k.

It stops at F-15E (NOT included)

 

[Grandea GTR]

I can use six fuel now?

 

[Morgoth_666]

I can use six fuel now?

Just for this weekend, apparently.

Is the price drop a permanent thing? I still have a bunch of early planes at level 5. Looks like fairly big price drops on everything, most of the planes I have upgraded past 5 are cheaper for the next level than I spent on the last one, even the level 10 stuff. MiG-31 much cheaper than before too.

 

[Paulie]

Yes. It came with update, but at first it wasn't up, they updated it with an hotfix internal on the server.

72k for 5 > 6 on F-4G/F-16C/MiG-21bis/J35J. Some say 9 > 10 costs little more than 500k for these crafts now.
X-29 (most expensive on cheaped planes) 5 > 6 is around 161k.

It stops at F-15E (NOT included)

Nice, is it the same story for levels past 10? Is level 11-20 more affordable?
I had also noticed special weapons are cheaper, level 2 upgrades on special weapons are now half price.

 

[Morgoth_666]

Level 12 on my F-14A was definitely cheaper than level 11 was, and also cheaper than it was going to be before the change. Not by a whole lot though, maybe 100-150k. Not seeing much if any difference in upgrade prices for my special weapons, at least not the ones that are above level 1, so maybe it's just the first level. 6AAM to level 5 is still 887,000. I guess just level 2 got cheaper for some reason.

 

[Flaren89]

Results of this weekend:
- Seen a SH IV for emblem and nickname;
- Levelled up to 5 Typhoon -OM- and MPBM;
- Levelled up to 9 ADFX-01 (40% for 10);
- Levelled up to 10 MiG-21bis -VP-.
Got 1.9 milions credits right now.

Raids done:
- x1 SH IV;
- x1 MD III;
- x1 SOLG III;
- x2 MD II;
- x1 SH II;
- x2 SOLG II;
- x1 MD I;
- x2 SOLG I.

New challenges and drops on:
- Challenges are based on Missions #3 to #8 of Campaign, they are non-repeatable and give credits for completing them and getting hard mode (time attack or minimum points);
- Drops are MiG-1.44 -Suljemani- and MiG-29 skin.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

With the fuel system being as it is, I don't see that high chances of getting any of that. I'm done throwing money at this game in the hopes of better experience.

 

[Leonidae@MFT]

And my connection derped.

 

[Flaren89]

I got invited in most of them. By myself, I just found a MD II, a SOLG I and a MD I. Used only supplied fuel for raid hunts, also used a supplied fuel and 5 stocked (not full 6 stocked) when I found one in the hunt; full 6 stocked instead when I got invited.

My stocked count drastically reduced, from 52 of weekend start to final 28 (if I recall good), counting obviously that 15 monster drop in a single sortie (where I used 6, so got back 9 more than those I used).