ALMS Season V

FH, it's boredom. :( :indiff: Was a fun race in Conti today, never made a mistake, really, for the entire race. I had a little slip up, that cost me a second, but not the win. But, when you get bored, you start to not care about your racing line as much. Set a target lap time.👍
+1 this.

I do it automatically. I immediately gear myself towards trying to outdo my personal best time in the first few laps of my stints. After that, I still run as normal, but I make sure to brake a little earlier.

Sorry I wasn't there. My internet in general just sucks, and I think playing a hella Guild Wars 2 lately has been partly to blame. I dunno though....

I had the idea of backing the other GT guys up to give FH a chance to romp home, purely because my first stint was going to be on Hards. I was managing to hit the same quali time as FH did while I was in practice, over multiple laps, so I knew I had it in me. My times on Hard's weren't too shabby either, 1:36's - 1:37's for the first few laps.
 
I need a lvl 12 ticket, yes.

Also, I'm reviewing the replay, and I got to say, there's a lot of lag. It's going to be real hard to make any calls based on the latency factor. What was the quality set at?
 
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Not sure what the quality was set at. Also out of all the tickets I have I don't have a level 12. Thought I did :/ I do have a ticket that can be a Ford Mark IV if you dont have that already.
 
Not sure what the quality was set at. Also out of all the tickets I have I don't have a level 12. Thought I did :/ I do have a ticket that can be a Ford Mark IV if you dont have that already.

I know, I have every other ticket surrounding 12 and I can't seem to get another one. I already used up the two prize level 12 tickets.
 
What's up Kevin, need your setups for the vette.. lotus is smokin hot this season. LOL.. Think I got something tonight for them....

Looks like you won, what do you need me for? Haha, but heres a good baseline setup that i would normally start with.

ballast
40 to the rear

ride height
F +9
R +10

springs
F 12.0
R 13.5

extension
F 5
R 7

compression
F 4
R 5

roll bar
F 4
R 5

camber
F 0.7
R 0.4

toe
F 0.0
R 0.0

LSD 10/10/10

Brakes F 5, R 7

This gives the car really good turn in while you ease off the brake, i guess you call it trail braking. Camber is low because of GT5's crappy tire wear, toe is more of a user preference thing so i rarely ever used it. I adjusted the ballast to compensate for tire wear mostly, on short tracks like monaco i move it to the rear more and on long/straight ones i move it forward like for monza or le mans. I normally would get the best tire wear with this setup though as long as you ease the car in and out, some tracks i could last a full lap longer than anyone.
 
Final Results of Round 4:

Qualifying:

[Position] [PSN ID] [Qualifying Time] [Gap] [Notes]

LMP

1. freshseth83 1:26.738 (--.---)
2. unrealanthony 1:27.274 (+0.536)
3. metalgear54 1:27.766 (+1.028)
4. T-n-T-2000 1:27.852 (+1.114)
5. gtamann123 1:28.477 (+1.739)
6. Sinlader 1:29.342 (+2.604)

GT

1. FlyinHawaiian77 1:34.658 (--.---)
2. THAT_GUY_2 1:35.078 (+0.420)
3. ghskilla 1:35.929 (+1.274)

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Race Results:

[Position] [Position Gain/Loss] [PSN ID] [Vehicle] [Laps Completed] [Gap] [Best Lap] [Notes]

LMP

1. (+1) unrealanthony (Pescarolo Courage - Judd GV5) (46) (--.---) (1:26.414)
2. (-1) freshseth83 (Bentley Speed 8) (46) (+06.574) (1:25.651)
3. (+1) T-n-T-2000 (Audio R8 PlayStation) (46) (+1:44.504) (1:27.968)
4. (+2) Sinlader (Toyota GT-ONE (TS020)) (46) (+2:00.614) (1:27.346)
5. (-2) metalgear54 (Peugeot 908 HDi FAP) (40) (+6 Laps) (1:27.863) (Retired, Warning for possible blocking*)
6. (-1) gtamann123 (Peugeot 908 HDi FAP) (0) (+46 Laps) (--.---) (DNS)

GT

1. (+1) THAT_GUY_2 (Chevrolet Corvette ZR-1) (43) (--.---) (1:34.744)
2. (-1) FlyinHawaiian77 (Lotus Evora) (43) (+02.554) (1:34.497)
3. (+0) ghskilla (Dodge Viper SRT10 ACR) (15) (+31 Laps) (2:52.489**) (Retired)

*Unofficial ruling: Ruling based on latency issues factored in.
**Best lap time may be inaccurate.

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Season Standings:

Driver's Points

[Position] [PSN ID] [Points] [Gap]

LMP

1. unrealanthony (50)
2. Sinlader (49) (-1)
3. metalgear54 (47) (-3)
4. cnd01 (36) (-14)
5. freshseth (36) (-14)
6. T-n-T-2000 (13) (-37)

GT

1. ghskilla (61)
2. THAT_GUY_2 (59) (-2)
3. FlyinHawaiian (52) (-9)
4. stormpacer17 (29) (-32)
5. mockingbird00000 (23) (-38)
6. coastiewannabe (16) (-45)
7. gtamann123 (10) (-51)
8. james6653 (6) (-55)
9. stupidstormy36 (Withdrawn)

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Manufacturers Points

[Position] [Manufacturer] [Points] [Gap]

LMP

1. Pescarolo (84)
2. Peugeot (53) (-31)
3. Toyota (46) (-38)
4. Bentley (36) (-48)
5. Audi (13) (-71)

GT

1. Dodge (84)
2. Lotus (81) (-3)
3. Chevrolet (59) (-25)
4. Ferrari (22) (-42)
5. Ford (10) (-74)
6. BMW (6) (-78)

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Any unofficial rulings must be passed by official stewards. I am not one until either Gogatrs or Tower_Turn_13 say otherwise.

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The incident with metalgear54 and freshseth83 and the incedent between metalgear54 and (either Sinlader or T-n-T-2000), and any subsequent incidents thereof, were very tough to judge due to a large amount of lag. Please make sure that the room quality is set to at least 3 or 4 stars. 2 or lower will cause problems.
 
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I can look at the replay also. But I dont think it will be any different. Every car is pretty much going to be laggy besides your own. Best view is probably the panoramic/broadcast cam and maybe chase cam. Bumper cam is :crazy:.

I vote Storm in as a Steward. 👍 He keeps up with qualy times and he can usually answer any questions in the lobby. And hes the best damn pace car driver I've ever seen!!! :lol:

Now that your connection is solid, you should come back full time. GT field needs it bad. :(
 
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Qualifying:

LMP

1. freshseth83 1:26.738
2. unrealanthony 1:27.274 (+0.536)
3. metalgear54 1:27.766 (+1.028)
4. T-n-T-2000 1:27.852 (+1.114)
5. gtamann123 1:28.477 (+1.739)
6. Sinlader 1:29.342 (+2.604)

GT

1. FlyinHawaiian77 1:34.658
2. THAT_GUY_2 1:35.078 (+0.420)
3. ghskilla 1:35.929 (+1.274)

Also seth, please don't run everything. I barely got the pace car out in front after the chicane, right after the tunnel. You also completely ignored all my messages.

Sorry for your connection issues Storm. What type of internet do you have? Dial-up, Cable, DSL, Optic Fiber?
I don't pay attention to messages while I'm racing, sorry. I didn't see any official pace car need anyway, were more than capable of running 60mph as a pace speed without a pace car. I don't know what you mean by stop running everything. What harm did I do? You're not even specifying what you're talking about. Be more clear in your post next time and we can solve things easier. Besides all that, Metalgear was blocking and racing with people he was a lap down from. You don't race guys who are a lap ahead of you, especially not the ones in the same class. 👎 I lost so much time trying to get past you. I was pitting a lap later than anthony to have fresher tires at the end of the race, your blocking made me run 1:28's when I was easily capable of turning 1:26's. Thanks for that. That's my only gripe.
 
I think a temporary steward can be anyone who wasn't involved in the incident, preferably not on the team of those involved or even in a different class is better. If someone can get a shot of the incident(s) and wants to send it to me or gatrs, that's fine too. I'll take a look. It sounds kind of like lag+Monaco was just a REALLY bad combination. Taking the racing line makes passing really hard here, and taking the racing line isn't blocking, just as it isn't for the GT cars. But I'm just speculating I have no idea what happened. I'd need to see the video. If it is blocking but not really intentional and has to do with lag/track, we can just warn involved drivers not to do it in the future and move on.

Of course personally, if already far behind I would brake early enough to let class leaders clear, take a late apex, do whatever not to interrupt the battle for the lead. On the other hand, they can't take the line away from a lapped car either. Better for both sides to just acknowledge each other.

Sorry to my Viper team mate for not showing, my internet at home has been crap lately and I can barely get online for more than a minute :(
 
To avoid anymore confusion, I have offered to host the races. I have not had a problem since Comcast last came to my house, so I have a pretty solid connection now. I'll open a room at 8:00 pm (EST) for a practice session. Then, at 9:30 pm (EST), I'll perform a room reset, then a regulation check if need be, then qualifying will commence after. If there are any last minute joins, or I see someone in the forums post that they'll be here in 5 minutes, I'll give them the time needed, but there'll be a limit. If things are running they way they should, all cars will be called to the pits at 9:00 or when it is deemed necessary. I'll start the race no later than 9:30 pm (EST). Any suggestions, please feel free to let me know, I am open to any ideas.

Also, during qualifying, please minimize the tendency to exit the track and tune your setup further. Although you'll keep your position, your qualifying time will be reset in the live timing monitor. I don't think your allowed to tune your setup during qualifying in the actual series, are you?

The biggest problem with last race was the lag. Combine that with the narrow course that you already have to face, can only lead to problems. That is why I can't come to a decision on my behalf about any and all incidents. You must set the room quality to a decent level. Last night's race wasn't.

Seth, I was referring the fact that you pretty much ignored my messages. I wrote that before you started the race, that I would run through the running order because I had all the positions and times written down. It's just to confirm the positions. Also, the problem also arose again about your methods of when you start a race. The problem is that you start the race when you post the fastest lap. That kinda happened with last night's race, but you said that you accidentally pressed the wrong button, and that you meant to change the laps and other settings, which meant that you were planning to start the race anyway. I received a couple messages about this problem, and why I have offered to host the races.

And as for the pace car incident, please understand that having the pace car will reinforce the pace lap integrity. But if you are uncomfortable with having a pace car, then I'm sorry. As far as I know, no one else has a problem with it, and even said they'd want one to make it a bit more realistic. I'm not saying that no one here is capable of maintaining a constant speed of 60 mph, it is the job of the pace car to set the pace. So please, allow the pace car to run in the front before the first turn.

And TT13, Dodge is leading the manufacturers points right now (with a slim margin of 3 points over the Lotus). The only other team that you'll have watch out for is Chevrolet, which does seem to show up at every race. :lol:
 
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Alms and the Rolex series merging?? Have y'all seen this yet? Press conference on Wednesday in Daytona. Look like nascar will control the Alms/Rolex series starting in 2014. Merging existing classes into one race! Crazy!!

Thanks Kevin for the set up just cant keep it straight out of the corners. Don't know what happened to fh he was a half a lap ahead with 10 to go then I passed him with 4 to go. Think he's sandbagging!! J/K
 
Alms and the Rolex series merging?? Have y'all seen this yet? Press conference on Wednesday in Daytona. Look like nascar will control the Alms/Rolex series starting in 2014. Merging existing classes into one race! Crazy!!

Maybe this ALMS series and the Rolex series should merge also? 💡
 
GT cars getting airborne at Baltimore over the train tracks on the front straight during practice yesterday. :lol:
 
Thanks Kevin for the set up just cant keep it straight out of the corners.

Cool let me know how it feels, took me a few seasons to put it together. But some of it is driving style, i like to brake a little early and get on the gas early. Yeratel gave me a lot of fits last season because he broke so late and that Ford was darn good at it.
 
Just a heads up, Alms at Baltimore is on espn3.com at 4:30 pm est. I'll try that set up, thanks again Kevin. Definitely need something for those lotuses.

LOL first lap!!! Espn3 has no commentators just racing sounds!
 
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To avoid anymore confusion, I have offered to host the races. I have not had a problem since Comcast last came to my house, so I have a pretty solid connection now. I'll open a room at 8:00 pm (EST) for a practice session. Then, at 9:30 pm (EST), I'll perform a room reset, then a regulation check if need be, then qualifying will commence after. If there are any last minute joins, or I see someone in the forums post that they'll be here in 5 minutes, I'll give them the time needed, but there'll be a limit. If things are running they way they should, all cars will be called to the pits at 9:00 or when it is deemed necessary. I'll start the race no later than 9:30 pm (EST). Any suggestions, please feel free to let me know, I am open to any ideas.

Also, during qualifying, please minimize the tendency to exit the track and tune your setup further. Although you'll keep your position, your qualifying time will be reset in the live timing monitor. I don't think your allowed to tune your setup during qualifying in the actual series, are you?

The biggest problem with last race was the lag. Combine that with the narrow course that you already have to face, can only lead to problems. That is why I can't come to a decision on my behalf about any and all incidents. You must set the room quality to a decent level. Last night's race wasn't.

Seth, I was referring the fact that you pretty much ignored my messages. I wrote that before you started the race, that I would run through the running order because I had all the positions and times written down. It's just to confirm the positions. Also, the problem also arose again about your methods of when you start a race. The problem is that you start the race when you post the fastest lap. That kinda happened with last night's race, but you said that you accidentally pressed the wrong button, and that you meant to change the laps and other settings, which meant that you were planning to start the race anyway. I received a couple messages about this problem, and why I have offered to host the races.

And as for the pace car incident, please understand that having the pace car will reinforce the pace lap integrity. But if you are uncomfortable with having a pace car, then I'm sorry. As far as I know, no one else has a problem with it, and even said they'd want one to make it a bit more realistic. I'm not saying that no one here is capable of maintaining a constant speed of 60 mph, it is the job of the pace car to set the pace. So please, allow the pace car to run in the front before the first turn.

And TT13, Dodge is leading the manufacturers points right now (with a slim margin of 3 points over the Lotus). The only other team that you'll have watch out for is Chevrolet, which does seem to show up at every race. :lol:

I already set the fastest lap and exited before I accidentally pressed the start race button and people complained. I meant to go out and change the amount of laps. But I pressed the wrong button. So you're wrong in saying that I started the race late purposely to gain an advantage. I can't start any higher than first ;) I had to change the lap amount before we started, but i started the race before that, and people were complaining they were still qualifying. So don't feed me that crap about trying to get pole before starting the race. You offer to host the race, yet you didn't set up a room. NO ONE DID. I said before we started that this was just a practice lounge and if someone wanted to set up the room, they should. I'm pretty sure your internet is no better than mine. So if you think by you hosting the room it'll somehow make things less laggy then be my guest. (TBH I didn't see lag at all) But don't accuse me of trying to start the race when it's convenient for me. Just to prove you wrong, I did a 1:27.1xx which was already the fastest lap, but didn't show on your screen because I exited the track. I started the race accidentally but it was still on 1 lap settings. We always do 1 lap before we start qualifying because it seems to set the timing and scoring right. It's like that in almost every room, regardless of the host. So how are you or anyone else going to jump on me about hosting when I openly said that someone else should open a room? I didn't ignore your order messages either, the order was right when we started the race, but since I exited my time didn't register. Which would have sent me to the back since you didn't get my time right. We went back in and I set a time in the 1:26.7's because everyone else was resetting their times as well. The only reason that time was faster was because I had a clear track while the 1:27 i hit traffic. And about the pace car, I never said I had a problem with it, don't know where you got that from. I said we didn't need it to hold a pace speed, and actually you didn't even keep to 60mph when you were in front! Nothing about having a problem with it.
 
I already set the fastest lap and exited before I accidentally pressed the start race button and people complained. I meant to go out and change the amount of laps. But I pressed the wrong button. So you're wrong in saying that I started the race late purposely to gain an advantage. I can't start any higher than first ;) I had to change the lap amount before we started, but i started the race before that, and people were complaining they were still qualifying. So don't feed me that crap about trying to get pole before starting the race. You offer to host the race, yet you didn't set up a room. NO ONE DID. I said before we started that this was just a practice lounge and if someone wanted to set up the room, they should. I'm pretty sure your internet is no better than mine. So if you think by you hosting the room it'll somehow make things less laggy then be my guest. (TBH I didn't see lag at all) But don't accuse me of trying to start the race when it's convenient for me. Just to prove you wrong, I did a 1:27.1xx which was already the fastest lap, but didn't show on your screen because I exited the track. I started the race accidentally but it was still on 1 lap settings. We always do 1 lap before we start qualifying because it seems to set the timing and scoring right. It's like that in almost every room, regardless of the host. So how are you or anyone else going to jump on me about hosting when I openly said that someone else should open a room? I didn't ignore your order messages either, the order was right when we started the race, but since I exited my time didn't register. Which would have sent me to the back since you didn't get my time right. We went back in and I set a time in the 1:26.7's because everyone else was resetting their times as well. The only reason that time was faster was because I had a clear track while the 1:27 i hit traffic. And about the pace car, I never said I had a problem with it, don't know where you got that from. I said we didn't need it to hold a pace speed, and actually you didn't even keep to 60mph when you were in front! Nothing about having a problem with it.

Then from now on, I'll set up the room. Problem solved. Everyone else saw lag as well. The room rules that I explained will be enforced. When all cars are called to the pits, all cars are to pull into the pits the next opportunity they have. Failure will result in loss of qualifying time and you will have to start from the rear of the entire field. Also, penalties will be turned on for qualifying only to avoid any corner cutting as well.

Also, it's not me feeding that "crap" about you starting the race late, I, as well as TT13 (I'm not sure about Gogatrs), have received multiple complaints about it. But it did happen when you set the 1:26.738, and it doesn't really prove your point regardless.

All times where recorded via the live timing and scoring. If it doesn't show up there, then it wasn't recorded.

If you saw my message, then I'm sorry. But you failed to acknowledge it. It doesn't matter if the order was right or wrong when the race started, the running order still must be announced to verify things.

As far as me holding 60 mph, the pace car is completely stock, as it should be. I held 60 until the corners came that required me to slow down. So please allow the pace car to be in front before the first corner. A penalty may occur if you fail to allow this.

And stop it with the attitude man. I was only relaying the concerns of others. I have already talked to TT13 about all of this, and we are trying to get things more organized. I am also trying to get in contact with Gogatrs as well, but he hasn't been online for a little while. More rules will have to come into effect of need be.

And for today's Baltimore race, I just started watching it, and a full course caution came out. Just my timing. :lol: The GT champions of last year is leading.

Dammit. Another caution. :lol: And there's a traffic jam on the nearby freeway.
 
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I didnt see any lag at the race yesterday if ppl were lagging it wasnt visable to me.

You may not notice it in the race as much, but it becomes more apparent in the replays. Or maybe you got lucky. :lol: Other people said there was lag as well. I'm a tech guy, so I notice these things more often than I'd like to.
 
Then from now on, I'll set up the room. Problem solved. Everyone else saw lag as well. The room rules that I explained will be enforced. When all cars are called to the pits, all cars are to pull into the pits the next opportunity they have. Failure will result in loss of qualifying time and you will have to start from the rear of the entire field. Also, penalties will be turned on for qualifying only to avoid any corner cutting as well.

Also, it's not me feeding that "crap" about you starting the race late, I, as well as TT13 (I'm not sure about Gogatrs), have received multiple complaints about it. But it did happen when you set the 1:26.738, and it doesn't really prove your point regardless.
When did you become in charge? In all previous seasons, weve never had a pace car. Your point about setting a 1:26 is useless, I set a 1:27.1 before I accidentally started the race after I exited track. I was already on pole! What you're failing to realize is that the people complaining are the ones that didn't want qualifying to end. That's not my fault people are saying more time for qualifying! I set the 1:27 in one lap after exiting from my first lap before I accidentally started the race. I set the 1:26 in one lap after accidentally starting the race. I wasn't the one clamoring for more qualifying time buddy, but that seems like what people think. So just to get it out there, that wasn't the case. What happened was I went out to set the lap amount, but I pressed 'BACK' instead of OK, so the lap amount DIDN'T change. I reentered the track and while you were calling out your order and set that time that's why you didn't see it on your T&S.

All times where recorded via the live timing and scoring. If it doesn't show up there, then it wasn't recorded.

If you saw my message, then I'm sorry. But you failed to acknowledge it. It doesn't matter if the order was right or wrong when the race started, the running order still must be announced to verify things.
I don't need to acknowledge your post. The order was wrong that you stated. I don't see what you're not getting. Qualifying wasn't even done and people being mad that I started the race accidentally confirms this, remember?

As far as me holding 60 mph, the pace car is completely stock, as it should be. I held 60 until the corners came that required me to slow down. So please allow the pace car to be in front before the first corner. A penalty may occur if you fail to allow this.
Again, when did you become in charge? Because the first post says nothing about you being a pace car driver. Or the need for a pace car. So you driving one must be something new because it isn't there. You can't criticize someone for not waiting on you if they read the OP.

And stop it with the attitude man. I was only relaying the concerns of others. I have already talked to TT13 about all of this, and we are trying to get things more organized. I am also trying to get in contact with Gogatrs as well, but he hasn't been online for a little while. More rules will have to come into effect of need be.
I don't have an attitude. You calling me out like I'm trying to cheat is wrong, and that's what I'm saying. I don't care if you run a pace car, or if your viewing live timing or whatever. I pointed out things to you that were wrong in your post. I don't appreciate people calling me a liar or a cheater, or imply I'm trying to gain some advantage. I didn't even win, so what's the big deal? I welcomed someone to open a new room, no one- not even you did that. So if I made a mistake (which everyone does) don't jump on my case trying to imply something not true 👍
 
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Ok. Just chill man. Like I said, I'll host the next race and we'll see how that turns out. If it doesn't work, it doesn't work. Last race is done and we can just move on. But the same procedure as explained before will be in effect. The pace car will be used. So please just keep that in mind.

I never criticized you nor did I ever call you out. Again as I have explained, I am relaying the concerns of other people. You're making the scene bigger than it actually is. Just drop it and move on, please.

Like I said, I have talked to one of the stewards already and I'm trying something here.
 
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Just throwing this out there. If we are using a pace car could we maybe try cautions?
 
We already expressed that option, but it seems that no one wants to do that. These races are only about an hour long. Damage isn't deep enough for it either.

If the races were longer and we had a more full field, then maybe.
 
How about going back to separate qualifying for lmp and gt. 10-15 minutes each. Like we used to! Open room at 8 then at 8:30 lmp and at 8:45 gt. You miss qualifying you start in the back! No compilations about time and whatever y'all are arguing about.

I pressed the start the first time then seth hit the start button on my scene seth was forth. Then when everyone backed out, seth went out and set his fastest lap. When seth hit the start race button the first time, stormy was reading the order so you were forth.

Stop going back and forth we need more drivers in here. With 3 gt drivers showing up this week, kinda need to act like were having fun in here. If I was looking to join a series I probably wouldn't join with the stuff going on here.
 
How about going back to separate qualifying for lmp and gt. 10-15 minutes each. Like we used to! Open room at 8 then at 8:30 lmp and at 8:45 gt. You miss qualifying you start in the back! No compilations about time and whatever y'all are arguing about.

I pressed the start the first time then seth hit the start button on my scene seth was forth. Then when everyone backed out, seth went out and set his fastest lap. When seth hit the start race button the first time, stormy was reading the order so you were forth.

Stop going back and forth we need more drivers in here. With 3 gt drivers showing up this week, kinda need to act like were having fun in here. If I was looking to join a series I probably wouldn't join with the stuff going on here.

You bring up a good point. I apologize if I seemed like I was arguing.

We can try your suggestion about splitting the field for qualifying. It depends on what everyone else thinks.
 
T_G_2, you're right. I don't remember the order that great, but I remember doing a 1:27.1 and I think you may have started the race. Or maybe I did it afterwards. I know that I showed 4th because I did a 1:27.8 once before I backed out and did a faster lap after thinking I set the # of laps correctly. So I think I did the 27.1 afterwards. Then I tried to set the lap amount but pressed the 'BACK' instead of 'OK' and it didn't stick with 46laps. I went to go back out an redo it, but I pressed race start by accident. Then everyone got mad and were like "what?" That I do remember.
 
I'd like to see us go back to LMP and GT qualifying seperately. We just need to nail down the time and let everyone know when their class is supposed to be on the track.

It would have helped at the last race. There has been ppenty of times where I am on a hot lap and an LMP who is also on a hot lap needs to get around me. So I try and accomodate and end up throwing that lap away.

I think this way will just give everyone more room. Meaning less accidents and less chatter from everyone saying sorry to each other.
 
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