Anyone else tired of this?

[Northstar]

My theory is that a large majority of world motorsports and sports car brands are located in Europe. If you look at NA and Asia there are a couple organizations that run a large league and only a couple small sports car manufacturers.

Again this is just my theory, although I think it's a good one.

 

[steve30x]

Do you realy want them to release GT5 unfinished and full of bugs. If not stop your crying for gods sake.

 

[Smoke&Slide]

How is TRD3? I played 2 a couple of years ago and liked it quite a lot.

I don't know if it's more enjoyable than the 2nd race driver, the physics is more simulation than arcade.The hud is sophisticated enough, loads of racing catagories, tracks ( 80 ) & decent amount of vehicles ( 70 ).The mechanical damage is good, although can't completely destroy them.I've driven the Lotus 49 & the sfx pretty good too.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Yeah your right, but my point was just that the Z06 isn't and has never been the only type of Vette in a full GT game. Thanks for the clairifaction though, I was going to type C4 but my Vette timeline isn't brilliant and I thought the C4's had ended and C5 started earlier than that.

Ah, I see.

 

[RACECAR]

I'm just curious, maybe there's been threads asking this before, hard to tell with a search function like that.

Anyway, I've been progressively getting more and more upset, at Sony and PD.
Aside from the horrendously long wait, between GT4 and whenever they feel like getting GT5 out for us Americans (the largest market for them) and Europeans (second largest market) Isn't anyone else just flat out pissed off, and insulted that they always release GT games to Japan first?

Honestly, what this makes me want to do, is go out, buy an XBOX, Forza 3, and a wheel for XBOX. Maybe the games aren't quite as good, or in-depth, but for Christ's sake, at least they can make more than two per decade. And they don't release their games to other people before me intentionally.

Now, I'm sure some of you may be thinking, "well, they need to make x number of copies" - Sorry, downloads exist now.
there is absolutely NO REASON that they cannot release it all at the same time. They've had MORE than enough time to test everything, from in-game glitches, to internet play. (something else they lagged in BIG TIME)

So is it just me, or don't these things make any of you guys just want to say * PD, * Sony, I'll buy Another brand?
Would you take this crap if you went to a store, and they served everyone from another country or race before you without reason? Why do we accept this for a video game? I understand it's great, but holy hell, you can only slap me in the face so many times before I tell you to go..... love yourself.

EDIT:
Forgot to add, GT5 for PSP (or whatever it's called) is now FREE for anyone that lives anywhere other than NA. Now, is that because of packaging/shipping/whatever else?

What in the living hell is the matter with you? Has it occured to you that PD and Sony are Japanese? Naturally, they are gonna release the games in Japan before they come over to EU and US and likewise, Forza will naturally release over here in US before EU and Japan because they are in the US. You apparently also have forgotten to take into account translation not just for US but also for the many languages spoken in Europe. Chill out for goodness sake, they aren't releasing it to Japan first just to piss you off.

 

[arvin charles]

I really don't care when they release the game at this point. It's not like I can afford to buy it when it comes out.

And I'm pretty sure I'm not the only unemployed GT fan in the world. (actually, I'm really curious as to what the unemployment #s look like here at GTPlanet).

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Chill out for goodness sake, they aren't releasing it to Japan first just to piss you off.

[PARANOID DELUSION]Yes they are!They know all about me and are deliberately DOING THIS TO HURT ME!!!!!!!!111 [/DELUSIONAL]


That was a sarcastic, joke, btw.

 

[crooky369]

What in the living hell is the matter with you? Has it occured to you that PD and Sony are Japanese? Naturally, they are gonna release the games in Japan before they come over to EU and US and likewise, Forza will naturally release over here in US before EU and Japan because they are in the US. You apparently also have forgotten to take into account translation not just for US but also for the many languages spoken in Europe. Chill out for goodness sake, they aren't releasing it to Japan first just to piss you off.

I thought Forza was out in Japan first then Europe and finally America. Also it is taking too long now for GT to come out.

 

[Ardius]

I thought Forza was out in Japan first then Europe and finally America. Also it is taking too long now for GT to come out.

GT3 - 2001
GT4 - 2004/2005
GT5 - 2010

So not really, taking into account the extra time needed to develop the far high quality graphics nowadays, the damage and the more detailed physics, I think a year or two extra is perfectly reasonable.

I'd love to hear how its "too long" considering they gave us plenty of stuff to have fun with while we wait, something that other developers do not do. Not to menton they admitted spending time on GT PSP as well.

What is "too much time"? Do you want them to not make the game such high quality in a trade-off for an earlier release?

These are rather rediculous demands, you want damage and better AI and better online and more Euro cars and more official series and more tracks. Yet you also can't stand to wait for such things when they are implemented. Typical.
Well I know I'm tired of one thing - the "why don't they listen to the fans" group of people. Never happy, always complaining.

 

[steve30x]

Well I know I'm tired of one thing - the "why don't they listen to the fans" group of people. Never happy, always complaining.

Im with you on that. No matter what PD do its not good enough for those fans even if PD add what they are looking for its still not good enough.

 

[Nicksfix]

Quitcha bitchin' and wait patiently like the rest of the world will do for the best GT ever.

 

[RACECAR]

BTW, the poll is downright pathetic. Honestly, is regional release dates really gonna make that much of a damn difference? Then by that same pathetic train of thought, just don't buy any game produced by foreign companies then. I've never been so irritated by so much stupidity that I see now.

Quitcha bitchin' and wait patiently like the rest of the world will do for the best GT ever.

Quoted for absolute truth:tup:

 

[Terronium-12]

What in the living hell is the matter with you? Has it occured to you that PD and Sony are Japanese? Naturally, they are gonna release the games in Japan before they come over to EU and US and likewise, Forza will naturally release over here in US before EU and Japan because they are in the US. You apparently also have forgotten to take into account translation not just for US but also for the many languages spoken in Europe. Chill out for goodness sake, they aren't releasing it to Japan first just to piss you off.

Everyone has said the same thing, so I won't add to it...what I will say is T10 didn't release Forza 3 here (US) first. It was released to Europe first.

 

[Dave A]

I thought Forza was out in Japan first then Europe and finally America. Also it is taking too long now for GT to come out.

Forza 3 was close to a simultaneous release, but iirc it released in Europe about a week before the US.

 

[Seismica]

Aside from the Japan release date, all your other arguments are irrelevant until we have actually played the game.

Because most of those arguments are against GT4 and PSP not GT5.

Basically no other racing games come close to the depth GT does and you're complaining about it? GT4 had a decent number of Corvettes. You have this ethos of 'They have variants of their cars so i want variants of American cars'. It may be a better argument than 'we should get rid of lots of skylines', but its still a stupid argument. Arn't you happy that you get each generation of Corvette? When its missing out entire manufacturers from Europe? I think getting more manufacturers with their iconic cars is priority over giving some unhappy people cars with 20bhp more than the standard model. The Japanese variants are there because it is a Japanese game.

Oh and Gran Turismo's largest market is Europe by far. Overall sales figures show 24,090,000 approx sales in Europe and only 18,980,000 approx sales in North America. By measure the Japan market isn't exactly small, it sold 9,350,000 approx units and in proportion to the population of each region, that makes Japan their largest market, per person at least. Plus the fact it is their home region, almost everyone involved with the development of the games series is from Japan, so naturally they are going to be requesting several variants of Japanese models.

*Sales figures from Polyphony Digitals official website

 

[ItsHim]

...what I will say is T10 didn't release Forza 3 here (US) first. It was released to Europe first.

About a week, wasn't it? But it took some time until the servers were operation at full blast, so there wasn't really that much you could do as everyone was still either stuck in career or trying to find a new money glitch

 

[reaperman]

The wait for this game is just BS, and sure I've thought about not buying it--but that only punishes me.

On the other side of it, I can (and will) purchase the game used so that none of my money goes to pd.

 

[Arkano5]

Have you ever heard of marketing?

2010 has Sony's biggest Exclusives of recent times coming out, GT5, GoW3, MAG, FF13 and such. If Sony release them all at the same time (beginning of the year) then PS3 sales wont go up by much at all. MAG comes out in January, GT5 in March for Japan and now summer for NA and possibly the EU too, GoW3 comes out in march I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) and I can't remember when FF13 comes out.

But none the less, Sony doesn't want to release it's biggest exclusives in the space of 2-3 months, by spreading out their biggest selling games of all time the amount of money they can make as appose to pleasing the few impatient 14 year old's who want the game NOW, ya' know, like, before the game has been translated, given that final golden layer of polish.

The demo comes out in like 5/6 days, just live with that.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

The wait for this game is just BS, and sure I've thought about not buying it--but that only punishes me.

On the other side of it, I can (and will) purchase the game used so that none of my money goes to pd.

Again with the 'me' bit. You and the OP are making us Americans look bad.

So what did you vote? Yes? No? or I'm interested in an inferior product, and I'm not about to pay for it? Go fire up Mario Kart, ya whiner.

 

[Smoke&Slide]

Ignore post.

 

[evilfoxhound]

To people saying "It will make the game better and more polished having a delay".

The game being pushed back for the west has nothing to do with the development. It's all about marketing.

The game will be completed and go gold in about two months from now, for the japanese release.

The Western delay will not improve the game in any way.

 

[Seismica]

To people saying "It will make the game better and more polished having a delay".

The game being pushed back for the west has nothing to do with the development. It's all about marketing.

The game will be completed and go gold in about two months from now, for the japanese release.

The Western delay will not improve the game in any way.

Wrong, the PAL version of GT4 was improved over the Japan version. Thats an advantage of getting things much later.

 

[Dave A]

Besides, the games not actually finished yet, the game is being finished and no doubt polished. And the western delay is important, otherwise we'd all end up with Japanese versions of the game. The game doesn't translate and bug test it'self you know.

 

[BrutherSuperior]

Forza/XBOX360 expatriate here.

If you think logically, it really is a no brainer why GT5 will be released in Japan 1st and N.America last. It would also help if you read gtp.net's homepage...specifically the article about the servers PD is implementing.

You all can argue about where/who has the largest market for a game, what cannot be argued is that the US dwarfs the rest of the world when it comes to high speed internet consumers.

That's what is effecting the delay. Sony is putting greater emphasis on the on-line gaming and communication aspects available w/the PS3 in hopes for a greater market share. A sleek package, free PSN service, competitive price, and no RRoD makes the PS3 a very stout competitor. The better the on-line experience is, the easier it will be for Sony to lure more customers and devs away from M$.

If the bible was written in modern times, Kanye West would not be in it....Gran Turismo would.

GT is much more than a game title, its an institution and its reputation is in the balance unless on-line play is f'n nailed. If Sony/PD get that right, there will be a shift in the balance of power of on-line gaming.

There is no better title under the Sony umbrella to take the on-line experience to another level than GT. However, there is great risk. Get it wrong, and millions will be left with a bad taste in their mouth and Sony/Gran Turismo will be attached to that experience. Get it right...well...the PS3 will then get a greater market share of gamers.

I'm sure PD has learned a great deal with GT5p in regards to on-line. Keeping a close eye on the PC sims and XBOX titles is also very valuable to see where they succeed and where they have failed. This takes time and I have no problem waiting after playing FM3 and returning it soon after purchase.

That game was not finished and the on line play was terrible. It was rushed and many Forza fans have moved on b/c of this.

Sony & PD have a very small window to get things right. A little screw up in Japan isn't a big deal as their markets react very differently to new technology than the West does. An update here, a patch there, not a huge deal when you look at the big picture. Japan is easily the most tech-savvy nation and have much different expectations than the western world.

When the game and its servers are sorted out, expect a splash in Europe and N.America.

 

[HuskyGT]

I disagree with most of what you are saying. However, I would like to see more variants of different cars in GT5. Like you said, they've given us lots of different NSX's and skylines and have so for many years. Isn't it about time to start releasing variants for other types of cars; particularly American and European models?

👍 totally agree. I would love to see all the line up for the Dodge Viper (all the SR´s and the ZB´s), from BMW all the M3´s(from the E30 to the E90´s...specially the E36) M5´s, basic BMW lineup, etc...American cars like various versions of the Mustang, Corvette, Camaro, etc...

 

[CodeRedR51]

Can we get any more bitching and moaning threads?

Sheesh.

 

[steve30x]

Can we get any more bitching and moaning threads?

Sheesh.

Isnt that what this forum is all about lately? Bitching and being nosey.

 

[yogaflame]

Europe is GT's largest market not America which is the second largest. Also how can you expect GT to have an even amount of cars per region when it is a Japenese game made by a Japenese company who are part of another Japenese company. Also you complain about the lack of various models look at Forza 3 which only has the best of each different models.

Poor EU since ps2 they have hot been shown love even up to now. Expect the earliest is Dec 2010 for EU, and worse Early 2011. My goodness Turn 10 made three projects for this gen and next year there is a rumor of new project and also PGR is coming up.

I still dont get it why not April. Not even May. But another 4-6 months. At least i'm ready to import the game.

 

[evilfoxhound]

Can we get any more bitching and moaning threads?

Wait until the demo hits.

Forum bitching meltdown

 

[Rennsport]

Man this thread has turned into a **** storm lol. Yes, I'm angry about the 5+ years it's taken Sony and PD to get *ONE* game out the door. Am i gonna go out and buy a 360? Probably not. Although, it's only a matter of time before Turn 10 and company catch up to PD...