B-Spec in 1.16 Update!

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Tyger
2. Everyone seems to be assuming there won't be new endurance events introduced, when this would be relatively easy for PD to do at the same time and just may not have been announced. Or they may bring them in as seasonals
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There are thousand things they could do easily, but they don't!
So I keep my hopes in a corner to avoid disappointment :)
 
Compared to western currency settings, that 7.84m Cr would be 78,400Cr which I believe is the payout for the Daytona NASCAR event.
 
Tyger
Just a few points:

1. Everyone seems to be referring to the current longest race in A-spec which is 24 minutes, and comparing this to 24 hours. Most of the endurance events in previous GTs have been 2 hours, 4 hours, 200 laps etc. 24 hours was the very longest event.
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Even compared to 2-4 hour events that would be a reasonable sort of length for a game (24 hours is a dumb length for a game race anyway), 24 minutes is fairly pathetic. 45 minutes, bare minimum.

2. Everyone seems to be assuming there won't be new endurance events introduced, when this would be relatively easy for PD to do at the same time and just may not have been announced. Or they may bring them in as seasonals.
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There are lots of things that would be reasonably easy for PD to do that they haven't done. We don't assume that they've done them until we hear otherwise.

They made specific mention of using B-Spec in the current A-Spec races, but made no mention of any new races. Seems odd, if they intend to add more endurance stuff.

You're right that it's possible that they might still add them, but you're not right for having a go at people making the totally reasonable assumption that if something isn't announced then it won't be in the game.

3. Not everyone but maaany people are bitching about this update. It's a free update, we still don't know fully what it will include, and if you don't like it or care for B-spec generally, nobody is twisting your arm to use it. If you don't like it, it doesn't mean it shouldn't be included for the many who do like it.
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Point to the people saying that the update shouldn't happen. Quote them for me.

There are people unhappy with what it provides, for reasons that they explain themselves. That's fine. Nobody is petitioning for your toys to be taken away, at least not that I've seen, and it's a strawman to pretend that there is. There's a difference between "I don't like what they've done with these features in the new update" and "I don't think anyone should be able to play with these horrible features in the new update".

If anyone is arguing that the update shouldn't happen just because they don't happen to like it, they're idiots.
 
Team management, it was pretty bad in GT5.

I had 5 drivers and I used 1 or 2. Progression system was fun but too simple. After 2 or 3 races, he became a pro.

Regarding endurance races. I prefer to manage the race from A to Z rather than let the driver do everything alone.
Everyone has his vision about B-SPEC mode but this new formula will make me enjoy this mode.

I'm not against endurance races but the B-SPEC has no impact.
 
I see it as sitting on the pit wall and screaming through radio to my noob driver. I really like this idea, but I'm afraid that they axed driver management and progression. Somehow I always cheered for my bunch of idiots. Without management it will be hard to cheer for some random Bob.
 
So after taking 15 months to implement this feature its still a bit of a fail.


gt6-bspec-3.jpg


Does anyone at PD even care about their product anymore?
 
Imari
It's true, and it's nice for those people. They'll enjoy it, and that's great.

But when the game is already accepted as being pretty forgiving to lesser skilled players when all the available assists are used, I get a bit wary when one of the stated advantages of a new feature in what is a pretty short press release is that it makes the game even easier.

It's not that it isn't true, or that it isn't useful for some people. It's that if that's one of the best features that they can think of to write about B-Spec then it's either unlikely to be terribly exciting, or that was actually a design goal for them. Neither of which are good news for those of us that don't find the majority of GT6 to be difficult.

Like I said, maybe there's a majority of people who find GT6 to be pretty tough and would welcome something like this. I sort of doubt it though.
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Well thats fine. But not everyone has the same opinion. Just because the blog says you can use b-spec for the RB challenges, doesnt mean you have to. It may say theyre difficult, doesnt mean for everyone. Just like b-spec not being for everyone. Does it matter? What do any of us know of their "goal" for b-spec. Its not even out but were here judging it.
 
lancia delta hf
So after taking 15 months to implement this feature its still a bit of a fail.


gt6-bspec-3.jpg


Does anyone at PD even care about their product anymore?
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Are you seriously basing this solely off a picture of them using the Chapparal 2X in the 24 Minutes Of Le Mans?
 
It looks like they've put a lot of effort into the revamp and I can't wait to give it a try. It finishes the game off for me too. No interest in the course maker but the VGT's are a nice bonus and plenty more to come.

Main reason I like it so much is that I'll actually be able to see all the cars racing, rather than me in bumper view a foot off the ground and a rear view to see the front of the car behind. I know I could watch replays of my own races but I know the result...

C'mon Bob! Overtake!
 
lancia delta hf
Yea but what about quality? Or doing things that make sense such as car line ups on the grid? It has been like it for years and they still dont sort it out, Clearly dont care that much
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I saw this mentioned elsewhere, perhaps it was you, that there aren't any grid starts. While I'm not claiming there are, none of the screen shots say we won't. All shots show cars clearly into their first lap or farther.
 
ProjectWHaT
How is it "a bit of a fail"?
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I would say it is a bit of a fail because it took more than a year past the time it was needed. Those of us who bought the game at release could have used this the first 2-3 months after the game was released and now have no need for it at all. If they added additional, longer events where it can be used it would be better but as is a large majority of players will likely not use it at all, others will play with it for a race or two and move on.

For people who recently started playing it will be a nice addition
 
I want to use B-spec as part of simulating endurance races. This means real length races with driver changes (me to Bob and back). 24 minutes doesn't cut it. New events are mandatory for me in this regard (or returning arcade mode to its former glory).

Short of that, I would at least like to have a team of drivers to develop and manage. I would like to watch them in higher level races that I may not be so good at.

I will not make a judgement until I see what is actually released, but I'm not holding my breath either.
 
Even though I have the career mode 100% completed, I don't mind letting B-spec grind me a few credits for an hour or so while watching something on my other TV. That's what I used to do in GT5, let B-spec grind me some credits while watching the NASCAR race on the other TV....my Sunday ritual. :lol: I don't see why some people are calling it a useless feature when you can earn a few credits with minimal effort. Also, if people do want to use B-spec to complete career mode, that's their business, they paid for the game, they can do as they please. :)
 
I think endurance will come. They did add the endurance to online, i'm pretty sure they are making something ready about it.
 
Imari
Even compared to 2-4 hour events that would be a reasonable sort of length for a game (24 hours is a dumb length for a game race anyway), 24 minutes is fairly pathetic. 45 minutes, bare minimum.
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Which was precisely my point, yet reference only seems to have been made to how the 24 minute race is too short and not really "Endurance", or how overly long a 24 hour race would be.

Imari
There are lots of things that would be reasonably easy for PD to do that they haven't done. We don't assume that they've done them until we hear otherwise.

They made specific mention of using B-Spec in the current A-Spec races, but made no mention of any new races. Seems odd, if they intend to add more endurance stuff.

You're right that it's possible that they might still add them, but you're not right for having a go at people making the totally reasonable assumption that if something isn't announced then it won't be in the game.
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I think it may be implied that there might be new Endurance races as they also specifically mentioned it in those words, and not sure the current Le Mans 24hr was ever referred to as "Endurance", can't check right now though. The blog post mentions the current A-spec races as you mentioned, but also "Endurance Races", which you haven't. As someone else said above, perhaps best to reserve judgment rather than assuming this must refer to the Le Mans 24 minutes. Also at no point was I "having a go", where did that come from?

Imari
Point to the people saying that the update shouldn't happen. Quote them for me.

There are people unhappy with what it provides, for reasons that they explain themselves. That's fine. Nobody is petitioning for your toys to be taken away, at least not that I've seen, and it's a strawman to pretend that there is. There's a difference between "I don't like what they've done with these features in the new update" and "I don't think anyone should be able to play with these horrible features in the new update".

If anyone is arguing that the update shouldn't happen just because they don't happen to like it, they're idiots.
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Like I said, it's additional content in the mould of previous B-Spec but with more features, so I find the wave of negativity a little perplexing. Sometimes this seems to border on outrage that PD are releasing such an update, which to me seems odd as they aren't "taking away the toys" from anyone, just adding more content which you can take or leave. So it does feel that some people don't think PD should be bothering with this at all, thereby disregarding the fact that it is 1. Free 2. Optional 3. Enjoyed by many others.

Incidentally, please try to lay off expressions like "having a go" and "your toys to be taken away" as it comes across as a little passive aggressive, and isn't warranted. If anything I was pointing out how others are throwing their toys out. Cheers :)
 

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