BMW Concept 1 Series tii Super Lap

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Thanks Cargo :cheers:

Once you've finished playing with your new settings is there any chance of trying them? I may need to tweak it a tiny bit for myself as I am still running without active steering, I found with your settings i'm using now that they suited the active steering as I was more able to control it, without though and the cars a completely different beast which becomes twitchy under braking, the braking distances seem to be a fair bit longer as well in my opinion.

I may not get a chance to run it for a day or 2 now as I have noticed some creaking coming from my wheel base when turning to the left. Not a big problem though as a bit of research told me that the allen key bolts needed tightening as the power of the wheel ffb makes the come loose. At the moment I can't find an allen key the size I need to tighten them up and don't want to make matters worse, will hope to find myself the correct equipment tomorrow.

A real shame as I was looking forward to trying to get into the 127's tonight :(
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Sure, as soon as I'm comfortable with my settings, I'll post the changes. A word of warning though, its going to be loose. :P I'm aiming to be right on the edge of loose and out of control, :crazy: its the style I have become most comfortable with. I know it sounds counterintuitive because of my use of Active Steering, but for me it makes a perfect balance. I usually don't use AS until I have exhausted my tunes potential, then I'll turn it on to grab the extral couple of tenths it seems to be good for.

Sorry to hear about your wheel, hopefully its nothing serious and just the bolts needing tightened up. Hope to see you back in the mix soon. Stay fast. :cheers:
 
Found nearly 0.5 sec last night - 128.6xx. 127.9xx is possible with a tweaked tune and if the idiot behind the wheel can string together a clean lap :irked:
 
Ok down to 128.405 now :D I did a few more tweaks & adjusted the dampers as per Mitch's suggestions. I feel it's consistently 1-2 tenths quicker in the 1st corner now & getting high 23.4xx's for the 1st sector. Not sure it is quicker anywhere else though. I must add that I pretty well nailed (rally style) the final chicane & probably gained 2/10 there alone.

My current settings using Mitch's transmission:

90/75
5.08/7.10
4/7
4/7
5/5
0/0
0.18/-0.80
BB 6/5
LSD 6/40/6
 
I seriously think we should have the Impreza's here and the beemer at Matterhorn...
Anyway shaved a couple tenths now at 1:28.656, blew an almost perfect 28.3xx by crashing straight in that famous chicane barrier at the left!!! ??? side when the phone rang :banghead: . I need to meditate now... No chicane... No chicane...
 
Was thinking, what would be interesting would be if they turned tire and fuel depletion in the TT's get 3 laps tops to post tree tie on good tires but also use the reduced weight and depleted tires to post a super hot lap...but that won't ever happen will it?
 
Finally some improvement.Down to 1.28.1xx#43 I seem to keep messing up a lot on that cursed chicane :mad:
Still using cargo's tune but with New
transmission settings.Will post it tomorrow.
 
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Posted my tune in the database here:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/resources/bmw-concept-1-series-tii-07.62/

got 1:27.143 with it, so it is fast.

sports computer instead of semi-racing exhaust is a bit faster, but the car is more drivable out of slow corners this way. catalytic converter is a must.
Gear ratio was trippy and changed values by itself so might be a bit off, but not by much.

Good luck, and feel free to rate it.:)
 
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et_
Posted my tune in the database here:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/resources/bmw-concept-1-series-tii-07.62/

got 1:27.143 with it, so it is fast.

sports computer instead of semi-racing exhaust is a bit faster, but the car is more drivable out of slow corners this way. catalytic converter is a must.
Gear ratio was trippy and changed values by itself so might be a bit off, but not by much.

Good luck, and feel free to rate it.:)
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Thanks for sharing, looks very much like Cargos tune so should be fine to drive without active steering. Your toe settings are very close to what I was using as I found Cargo's to loose without active steering.

Is the catalytic converter much faster than using an exhaust? The car has 2HP more than I was using but I wasn't sure it made much difference on a track like this.

Anyway will have a go with it tomorrow after work to see if I can break into the 127's, hopefully the extra HP will be a help after all 👍

Great lap time you have by the way :)
 
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Thanks for sharing, looks very much like Cargos tune so should be fine to drive without active steering. Your toe settings are very close to what I was using as I found Cargo's to loose without active steering.

Is the catalytic converter much faster than using an exhaust? The car has 2HP more than I was using but I wasn't sure it made much difference on a track like this.

Anyway will have a go with it tomorrow after work to see if I can break into the 127's, hopefully the extra HP will be a help after all 👍

Great lap time you have by the way :)
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You're observant.;) I started out with the setup from @GTP_CargoRatt , but I did so many changes it was almost not recognizable in the end. Cargo's setup was one of the best I've ever driven, the car had virtually no understeer whatsoever, but still very predictable, at any speed in any corner! I loved it!:drool:
But... that feel came at a price, the exterme toe out together with the loose differential took away traction out of the corners. when I changed that, the car became a bit unpredictable again, understeer sometimes, and all of a sudden oversteer. after some tinkering I came up with this. still feels kind of good, it has the traction needed, and the initial steer-in is there. only problem still present is some mid-corner understeer.

as far as the power upgrades go, I tried all kinds of different combos, and I'd say the difference between a good combo and a bad one is about 0.2 sec, so its not super-important, but still, you get that time "for free". so why not.:dopey:
As I said, sports computer and catalytic converter is the best combo, but with the exhaust I found it did'nt bog down as much, and that felt better to me.:)
 
et_
You're observant.;) I started out with the setup from @GTP_CargoRatt , but I did so many changes it was almost not recognizable in the end. Cargo's setup was one of the best I've ever driven, the car had virtually no understeer whatsoever, but still very predictable, at any speed in any corner! I loved it!:drool:
But... that feel came at a price, the exterme toe out together with the loose differential took away traction out of the corners. when I changed that, the car became a bit unpredictable again, understeer sometimes, and all of a sudden oversteer. after some tinkering I came up with this. still feels kind of good, it has the traction needed, and the initial steer-in is there. only problem still present is some mid-corner understeer.

as far as the power upgrades go, I tried all kinds of different combos, and I'd say the difference between a good combo and a bad one is about 0.2 sec, so its not super-important, but still, you get that time "for free". so why not.:dopey:
As I said, sports computer and catalytic converter is the best combo, but with the exhaust I found it did'nt bog down as much, and that felt better to me.:)
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Sorry I didn't get back to you on PSN, but the traction issue you speak of isn't an issue for me. I am able to control that with simple, and careful, throttle modulation. I run a heavier spring on my throttle pedal which really helps me modulate the throttle. I ordered a new brake spring (GTEye) which I'm hoping will take my braking to a new level also.
 
GTP_CargoRatt
Sorry I didn't get back to you on PSN, but the traction issue you speak of isn't an issue for me. I am able to control that with simple, and careful, throttle modulation. I run a heavier spring on my throttle pedal which really helps me modulate the throttle. I ordered a new brake spring (GTEye) which I'm hoping will take my braking to a new level also.
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I can control it but with less toe I can give it more gas altogether, and hit it earlier :)
But my driving style sure has a big part to do with that:P
 
et_
Posted my tune in the database here:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/resources/bmw-concept-1-series-tii-07.62/

got 1:27.143 with it, so it is fast.

sports computer instead of semi-racing exhaust is a bit faster, but the car is more drivable out of slow corners this way. catalytic converter is a must.
Gear ratio was trippy and changed values by itself so might be a bit off, but not by much.

Good luck, and feel free to rate it.:)
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Thanks a lot (also credits to Cargo -apparantly!)👍 -This setup is so good, it even Works Wonders with DS3: One hour with it and i bettered my time almost a sec. to 1.27.949! -Had the LSD accel. at 40 though; thought i'd better...
 
Hey you guys, look what news the update brought. :D

GT Academy We have added the [GT Academy 2014 ] to [SPECIAL EVENTS] area . It will be available online from April 21, 2014. We are looking forward to your participation

I can't wait...super excited. :D This could be my year.
 
et_
You're observant.;) I started out with the setup from @GTP_CargoRatt , but I did so many changes it was almost not recognizable in the end. Cargo's setup was one of the best I've ever driven, the car had virtually no understeer whatsoever, but still very predictable, at any speed in any corner! I loved it!:drool:
But... that feel came at a price, the exterme toe out together with the loose differential took away traction out of the corners. when I changed that, the car became a bit unpredictable again, understeer sometimes, and all of a sudden oversteer. after some tinkering I came up with this. still feels kind of good, it has the traction needed, and the initial steer-in is there. only problem still present is some mid-corner understeer.

as far as the power upgrades go, I tried all kinds of different combos, and I'd say the difference between a good combo and a bad one is about 0.2 sec, so its not super-important, but still, you get that time "for free". so why not.:dopey:
As I said, sports computer and catalytic converter is the best combo, but with the exhaust I found it did'nt bog down as much, and that felt better to me.:)
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Sorry wasn't meant to sound like that :)

Certainly looks like I will be giving it a go when I finish work tonight as Roweer has already posted a great result using this setup. I am hoping I will be able to get into the mid 27s at least with it, I am currently at a 128.1 with the old setup. The update may have effected the tune you posted, hopefully not as I am sure I will beat my time with it.
 
Is there any way to know how many people have been registered on leader board for a particular seasonal event? Like total number of people who have participated?
 
128.206 with slightly modded tune by 'et'. Unfortunately the "registration failed" :banghead: but hoping I can still register when it comes back online.
 
ionstriker
Is there any way to know how many people have been registered on leader board for a particular seasonal event? Like total number of people who have participated?
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Yep I don't remember who thought of this method, maybe @JujiroMatsuda : With an unregistered account, run the TT and before finishing the lap, stop somewhere convenient like in the middle of the track and wait for half an hour or more... Then finish the lap and see where you rank. Don't be surprised if there are still others behind you!
 
yannagas
Yep I don't remember who thought of this method, maybe @JujiroMatsuda : With an unregistered account, run the TT and before finishing the lap, stop somewhere convenient like in the middle of the track and wait for half an hour or more... Then finish the lap and see where you rank. Don't be surprised if there are still others behind you!
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Yea, that's a trick going all the way back to the early days of GT5 TT's. Not sure who the originator of the idea was, but its been being done almost since the beginning of online TT's. I know I myself done it way back when so its almost common knowledge nowadays I would think. 👍

@Teitzy I sent you a friend request on PSN and you haven't yet accepted. :confused: Do you not want to join the madness. :lol:
 
yannagas
Don't be surprised if there are still others behind you!
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You have to keep rolling your car otherwise if you stay stationary for, like 5 seconds, you get disqualified so you just have to cruise as slow as you sanely can and when you thought you cannot possibly go any slower, there are always other kind of aliens on bottom keeping you from getting that spot.lol I saw someone took as long as 28 minutes for Brands Hatch... It seems that no matter how hard I try I can never get the top spot on either end.lol
 
tried to scroll backwards, but got tired at around pos 3000 or so, I think i'll try the rubber band trick...💡
Anyway just counted 10! Italians in top 15:tup: and two Greeks my friend @iliasdc at p18 :cheers: and SokaGT-Racing at p20. Bravo guys!
 
I know when I started tuning for the FITT challenge I had just barely cleared the tt gold with a 1.35.498 and I was in position 49756. So at least 70k people in this one. I'll pester a friend who is 3 seconds behind the gold time see where he is at.
 
yannagas
Yep I don't remember who thought of this method, maybe @JujiroMatsuda : With an unregistered account, run the TT and before finishing the lap, stop somewhere convenient like in the middle of the track and wait for half an hour or more... Then finish the lap and see where you rank. Don't be surprised if there are still others behind you!
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That will put you somewhere near my time.
 

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