Wow, I see people here talking about taking time to buy "fictional" Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars?
How about the actual cars that have fans and us players, majority, wants to play around with? Like the Ferrari 330 P4, the Porsche 917k, the Ferrari LaFerrari and then Enzo, the Carrera GT, the F50, etc, etc.
All of these cars with the former payout, would take you between 2 to 10 hours to buy for each one. For reference, there are story-games with campaigns that last 10 to 20 hours. The whole game, and the average game lasts about 30-40 hours.
Yet, you have to waste 10 hours to buy 1 car. And there are about 6-7 other magnificent and exciting cars that you want to try driving that unfortunately also take that amount of time to get, and about 30-40 other great cars that each will take 2-3 hours to get the money to buy them...
UNTIL this patch came. Now the event that gives the most money which is still the same (Fisherman's Ranch), gives you less than half of what it did before. Which means that now you need to waste twice the time to get that same car, 20 hours.
Who the hell can say this is reasonable? I wouldn't mind 20 hours of continued campaign, doing several different championships, a lot more café menus, missions, endurance races etc. But no, it's literally just doing the same race over and over again, and it's a pretty boring and crappy race as well, in the dirt, the weakest thing about Gran Turismo since... ever.
Please someone explain to me: How is this reasonable?
I don't want to get the most expensive cars in 1 hour, but there's a goddamn fine line. How about people like me who have been around since Gran Turismo 1 for PSone? We are no longer kids with tons of free time, we are now adults who have a job and wife/husband and kids, we barely have time to play the game these days but we are still the same fans of Gran Turismo we have been since day 1.
Why Polyphony even bothers to add 424 cars if most of them are not going to be used because a lot of them are crazy expensive and people won't have the time to grind for them? Might as well not even waste the resources on them right?
Exactly... Polyphone adds those cars
TO BE PLAYED WITH. Each car is a new experience, for PD themselves and us, and us who play the game
NEED to have a REASONABLE opportunity to DRIVE THEM ALL.
As it stands, you will not be able to drive the most historical and exciting cars unless you waste 300-400 hours just on grinding. And that's also assuming the cars are available to buy because it's literally luck of the draw until they appear in the Legendary Car dealer or even more luck of the draw to get an invite to buy the most exclusive cars in Brand Central.
I was "just", 5.4 million credits away from buying the Jaguar XJ13, but after this patch, I've just lost the motivation to continue.
And funny the Patch notes say that the events rewards were changed accordingly to the time/difficulty it takes to complete them.
But yet, a 3 minute 1lap Rally Race against one single AI car gives you 30.000 (plus the race bonus) and an over 21-22 minute race with pitstops against several AI where the leader is about 30-40 seconds ahead of you in the circuit La Sarthe only gives you a measly 70.000 credits (plus the race bonus).
That 3 minute Rally race gives you an average of 771.428 credits per hour (with the clean race bonus)
That 22 minute La Sarthe race give you an average of 286.363 credits per hour (with the clean race bonus)
Again I ask: THIS^ is reasonable?
Err... no.
I always felt some pride when I finally was able to buy a car after a lot of grinding. How is it any fun to race in like 3 short races to get enough payout to buy the super expensive cars? Exactly, it is not.
I can also remember the online events in GT6 that sometimes paid you over a million in 30 minutes. Ridiculous. What's the point in that?
Grinding has to be exactly that: A grind. It has to consume time. It has to be hard. It has to be a bit boring.
Plus, with the 20 millions cars not being worth 20 millions anymore and the XJ13 so far being an unicorn (but still with a 35% discount), I really don't see any valid reason to boycott the game in the hopes to increase the payout. Plus, we will get more events in the future that might or might not have higher payouts.
You don't even need these cars, they're optional. It's nice to have them, sure, but complaining it takes too long to purchase them because you're impatient and don't want to spend some sweat into it, I consider this lazyness.
1 million for a 30 minute seasonal race where it was tweaked to be hard race for the average player was a damn fine payout.
not to mention that you only win that 1 million
ONCE, you could repeat the race again but will have no prize.
And even if you could repeat the race and win the money, you still had to do that same race about 19 more times to buy 1 car that was worth 20 million, and you still had about 5 or 6 that cost that and several others costing 10 and 15 million.
But at least it wasn't doing the same race over and over again, it updated weekly with 2 or 3 new races if I remember correctly which didn't make it boring.
20 times a race of 30 minutes, that's still 10 hours to get 1 single car. And you have the nerve to say it's ridiculous and it's too fast to get money?
A grind has to consume time.
Correct
A grind has to be hard.
Not necessarily, but I do appreciate if it is, I personally like a challenge.
A grind has to be a bit boring.
No. That's where you are clearly wrong. If it gets boring, it stops being fun, if it stops being fun, it can no longer be called a game. Might as well be your own damn job.
It's not about needing the cars. It's them existing in the game in the first place for us, fans of those cars, to try them out.
