Captain America: Civil War

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Three days after watching the movie, I'm still not entirely sure that either Cap or Stark was unequivocally the good guy. The script was well written enough that there was no outright villain, even Zemo had a legitimate gripe even though his method of dealing with it kinda sucked from a moral standpoint. In that respect it was way better than Civil War 2006 for me.

Edit to add: Everything Stark tried to do stemmed from guilt. Eventually he gave into vengeful rage as did Zemo. That's what made T'Challa's refusal to walk the same path of vengeance an impressive tie-up to his arc.

Stark's (Stank's?) death stare was intense though.

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I'm not sure exactly what was being spoiled other than that Stank is pissed at Rogers for some reason but okay.

I'm also wondering what qualifications Ross the elder had for being the man in charge of the world's superheroes since his track record with the incredible Hulk wasn't so great.
 
I'm also wondering what qualifications Ross the elder had for being the man in charge of the world's superheroes since his track record with the incredible Hulk wasn't so great.
Seriously? He's in government. Politicians fail upwards.
 
@JKgo - You know what's worse than someone posting spoilers without proper tags? When another member quotes it, because now even if the first member fixes it, the spoiler remains.

Post just deleted, instead. Can't be too safe!
 
@JKgo - You know what's worse than someone posting spoilers without proper tags? When another member quotes it, because now even if the first member fixes it, the spoiler remains.

Post just deleted, instead. Can't be too safe!

...:embarrassed: My bad.
 
Since this is the current status of the MCU, I will leave this here.

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Did it really though, didn't the unmentionable Hulk movie really start it? Also it's amazing that from IM to now the transition has been nothing but great most of the time. I mean you wouldn't even think Disney took over the MCU if you were to watch IM and then go watch say Winter Soldier.
 
"Hulk" was by Universal Pictures, "The Incredible Hulk" came after Marvel regained the Hulk as a character and was originally going to be a sequel until Edward Norton rewrote the opening to make it a reboot.
 
Did it really though, didn't the unmentionable Hulk movie really start it? Also it's amazing that from IM to now the transition has been nothing but great most of the time. I mean you wouldn't even think Disney took over the MCU if you were to watch IM and then go watch say Winter Soldier.
The 2003 Hulk, with Eric Bana? No. It wasn't a Marvel film property and had no connection to the current MCU.
 
...Speaking of Hulk, does anyone know if the distribution rights still rests with Universal, not with Marvel? I could google, but my fingers are feeling lazy for some reason...
 
...Speaking of Hulk, does anyone know if the distribution rights still rests with Universal, not with Marvel? I could google, but my fingers are feeling lazy for some reason...
As I understand it Universal own the rights to solo Hulk movies. If he shows up in Thor: Ragnarok though then Marvel Studios would own the rights to that film.

I don't know much about Ragnarok (least of all who Taika Waititi is). If it takes place entirely off-Earth then I wonder if or how they're going to work a Stan Lee cameo in.

[EDIT] Waititi played Tom Kalmaku in Green Lantern. Marvel Studios are big on actor/directors.
 
As I understand it Universal own the rights to solo Hulk movies. If he shows up in Thor: Ragnarok though then Marvel Studios would own the rights to that film.
That's not true. Before Disney bought Marvel, Universal just had distribution rights. Now that Disney has entered the picture, they [Disney] may have the same arrangement that they have with Paramount, Universal has distribution rights in the US, but internationally may lie with Disney.
 
The 2003 Hulk, with Eric Bana? No. It wasn't a Marvel film property and had no connection to the current MCU.

Yeah Eric Bana, and it really wasn't marvel property? Wow I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
"Hulk" was by Universal Pictures, "The Incredible Hulk" came after Marvel regained the Hulk as a character and was originally going to be a sequel until Edward Norton rewrote the opening to make it a reboot.

Ah thanks, for that info. So then the marvel movies before (which were all crappy) IM are a different story. Cause I mean I dont count Fox which was doing X Men back in the early 2000s or Sony either. That's why I wanted to know more.

Thanks you two.

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Also on the subject of Hulk, I don't think Marvel really wants to make a stand alone series involving the Hulk, there really isn't anything to him comic wise I think that makes him super interesting compared to who we do have. In fact I think it would muddle a lot of things to show him scale up as high as he does, and be nigh god levels as he is in the comic. Especially if we got a WW Hulk.
 
Also on the subject of Hulk, I don't think Marvel really wants to make a stand alone series involving the Hulk, there really isn't anything to him comic wise I think that makes him super interesting compared to who we do have.
Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuut?

Joe Fix-It, Red Hulk, Pardoned/Regression or any of the Hulk becoming sane storylines, get some true Hulk vs Thor action on, Maestro, Leader, I can go on.
Basically, we can get a lot of stuff from the Peter David era. Hulk has had a long history of personality issues. It turns out that Banner has multiple personalities and the gamma radiation divided them into their raw forms: rage, evil, intelligence, etc. At some points they get merged and you wind up with a large, green, intelligent man with Bannet's mind in full control. Other times evil and intelligence take over and he becomes a mob boss with rage issues.

There are a lot of places you can go with Hulk. He has some incredible enemies. He's not just a rampaging beast whose most interesting story is getting pissed at the heroes of Earth. If they could make it work, a Planet Hulk movie would be incredible. Stan Lee envisioned him as a brute force for good. That has only been hinted at so far.

In fact I think it would muddle a lot of things to show him scale up as high as he does, and be nigh god levels as he is in the comic. Especially if we got a WW Hulk.
He is nigh God levels. He is the only thing on Earth to successfully punch Thor and send him flying. Even CA and IM couldn't scratch Thor, but Hulk punched him like a rag doll and then whipped another God around like a piece of paper. A God who thought he had nothing to fear from Earth because nothing could touch him. He survived a fall that Thor and Loki didn't think they could. The only reason he lost to the Hulkbuster in AoU was because he saw the destruction he had caused and began calming down before he got sucker punched. That and the story required it.

Hulk is there. They just haven't shown it in all his glory yet. It is why Hulk can't be part of Civil War. He's the nuclear bomb in that scenario.
 
Not that I wouldn't like to see one but talking about a Planet Hulk movie brings up even more rights issues. The cartoon adaptation had to use Beta Ray Bill in Silver Surfer's place presumably because of Fox-related reasons.
 
Not that I wouldn't like to see one but talking about a Planet Hulk movie brings up even more rights issues. The cartoon adaptation had to use Beta Ray Bill in Silver Surfer's place presumably because of Fox-related reasons.
If Fox can't get FF off the ground it will be back in-house.

Not that we haven't seen plenty of change before now. Chitauri are a switch for Skrulls.
 
This weekend is Mother's Day weekend in the US. My viewing may be delayed for a week.

That reminds me:

Considering how long we ran with spoiler tags in the Star Wars thread, I'd say its reasonable for the practice to run for at least a week or two from tomorrow in here too.
 
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