COVID-19/Coronavirus Information and Support Thread (see OP for useful links)

[Dennisch]

Fun fact, it also massacres your sperm count and morphology.

So, it's actually beneficial for humanity.

 

[Joey D]

Well if a lot of anti-vaxxers and right wingers start taking the horse medicine, grocery stores won't need to stock up on bread, milk, and toilet paper anymore. They will be running out of apples, carrots, and sugar cubes.

Just me on my way to pick up my daily ration of apples, carrots, and sugar cubes. When they asked me if I wanted a bag, I just said "neigh".

But ya, this is me and this is how I attended a Teams meeting earlier today about our booster dose rollout and some stuff related to the ivermectin overdose uptick we're seeing.

 

[Famine]

So, it's actually beneficial for humanity.

Quite so.

I don't even know where this idea that taking a drug intended to flush parasitic worms out of the intestinal tract of livestock, or splashed on your kid's head to get rid of lice, is supposed to also help with a human respiratory infection.

I know why - a bunch of red-hat congressmen and senators have a lot of money in Merck and wanted to boost profits - but how anyone latched onto it as a good idea escapes me. Still, people ate fish tank cleaner and a malaria drug so... jimface

 

[McLaren]

Quite so.

I don't even know where this idea that taking a drug intended to flush parasitic worms out of the intestinal tract of livestock, or splashed on your kid's head to get rid of lice, is supposed to also help with a human respiratory infection.

I know why - a bunch of red-hat congressmen and senators have a lot of money in Merck and wanted to boost profits - but how anyone latched onto it as a good idea escapes me. Still, people ate fish tank cleaner and a malaria drug so... jimface

And even then, Merck apparently says, "Don't take it for Covid".

Merck Statement on Ivermectin use During the COVID-19 Pandemic - Merck.com

KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of...

www.merck.com

Actually, upon googling this link, it looks like Merck may be supporting another drug of theirs, Molnupiravir, instead?

KENILWORTH, N.J.--(BUSINESS WIRE)-- Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today announced it has entered into a procurement agreement with the United States government for molnupiravir (MK-4482). Molnupiravir is currently being evaluated in a Phase 3 clinical trial, the MOVe-OUT study, for the treatment of non-hospitalized patients with laboratory-confirmed COVID-19 and at least one risk factor associated with poor disease outcomes. Merck is developing molnupiravir in collaboration with Ridgeback Biotherapeutics.

“Merck is pleased to collaborate with the U.S. government on this new agreement that will provide Americans with COVID-19 access to molnupiravir – an investigational oral therapy being studied for outpatient use early in the course of disease – if it is authorized or approved,” said Rob Davis, president, Merck. “In addition to this agreement with the U.S. government, we are actively engaged in numerous efforts to make molnupiravir available globally to fulfill Merck’s commitment to widespread access.”

Merck Announces Supply Agreement with U.S. Government for Molnupiravir, an Investigational Oral Antiviral Candidate for Treatment of Mild to Moderate COVID-19 - Merck.com

U.S. government commits to purchase approximately 1.7 million courses of Molnupiravir upon issuance of Emergency Use Authorization or approval by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today announced it has entered into a...

www.merck.com

 

[Danoff]

but how anyone latched onto it as a good idea escapes me. Still, people ate fish tank cleaner and a malaria drug so... jimface

It's almost like this group is a bunch of children who will do the opposite of whatever the government says is a good idea.

 

[Dennisch]

It's almost like this group is a bunch of children extremely dumb.

I fixed it because we're at that point of the pandemic by now.

It's one thing to say no to a vaccine that seems to be working without too much side effects, but what that other group of morons is doing, they deserve the worms they're trying to kill. Perhaps they should also try that fancy Tide Pod challenge we had, maybe that will work against a dirty virus too.

 

[Famine]

And even then, Merck apparently says, "Don't take it for Covid".

Yeah, turns out Big Pharma itself actually gets into deep **** if there's any hint of promoting unsafe medication practices, but if alt-right politicians with a vested interest and a gravy train based on shovelling stupidity into morons' heads (and their "alt-media" shills) promote it, that's just fine.

It's almost like this group is a bunch of children who will do the opposite of whatever the government says is a good idea.

It's even more mental, because eight months and two days ago, the people cramming absolute arsegravy into their thinkpots was the government.

 

[Outspacer]

So in summary, Joe Rogan is a big wussy baby who had zero confidence in what he was preaching about, that "staying healthy" was the way to beat COVID? What a surprise.

Bleating about the vaccine being under emergency authorisation (well, Pfizer isn't any more, but hey-ho) and some conspiracy around that regarding suppression of treatments, because emergency auth for a vaccine can only be given when there's no treatment available. But there is a treatment! Well.. no. Prescribed himself (yes, effectively he did, as a rich guy with private doctor) a bunch of drugs and drips which are either emergency authorisation, approved only for trials, or just not approved at all in relation to COVID.

Part of the advice regarding corticosteroids is: "Other corticosteroids, such as prednisone, methylprednisolone or hydrocortisone, may be used if dexamethasone isn't available. Dexamethasone and other corticosteroids may be harmful if given for less severe COVID-19 infection."

From his own description of it he had a pretty mild case, no indications that he was at risk of serious illness at any point, and probably would've recovered fine without any of that stuff - some of which actually added risk.

If there was any work to do, the monoclonal antibodies surely did their thing. At best there was no point in taking the rest of that cocktail.

Meanwhile, his buddy there, in a weakened state recovering from surgery, barely even noticed COVID thanks to being vaxxed.

I've got that about right, haven't I?


PS. I'm far more concerned by the anti-vax element than any pro-Ivermectin stuff.

 

[Danoff]

It's even more mental, because eight months and two days ago, the people cramming absolute arsegravy into their thinkpots was the government.

Something deep state something something


Edit:

It's also straight out of Life of Brian. These people all think they're too smart for the mainstream sheep, despite being masses themselves. "Wake up sheeple! I'm doing what millions of other people are doing because Donald Trump, the then-President of the United States, told me to". Somehow this is undeground counterculture that resists big government.

"We are all individuals"

 

[Scaff]

Unfortunately, Joe can't try to claim Ivermectin isn't so bad by saying, "Look how better I got. I got better pretty quick". Per his own words, he also took "monoclonal antibodies, ivermectin, z-pak, prednisone, NAD drip & a vitamin drip", 3 days in a row.

As I've read from other medical outlets, the antibodies and prednisone likely played a major role in why he feels so much better. Joe also does the 1 thing he repeatedly does by mistaking his experience that of the average person.

Edit* Ah, Joe has the Greg Abbott plan. Already had all that medicine & treatment on stand by, took it same day. Lot of precaution for someone who thought his lifestyle has zero risk of catching Covid.

I just read the following "Joe Rogan is Gwyneth Paltrow for Men" and quite frankly I struggle to argue with that.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

Is Joe Rogan also selling candles?

 

[McLaren]

Is Joe Rogan also selling candles?

He sells Primal kettlebells that smell like "man" out of the box.

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

They probably smell more like China.

 

[Fat Tyre]

He sells Primal kettlebells that smell like "man" out of the box.

Please tell me that's a joke.

 

[Joey D]

He sells Primal kettlebells that smell like "man" out of the box.

Given Rogan's latest bout with COVID and the misinformation he's peddling, I'm guessing neither he nor his faithful are going to smell anything anytime soon.

 

[McLaren]

Please tell me that's a joke.

I am joking. He does occasionally "advertise" using those kettlebells though, when he's doing one of his "Look at how much I exercise and my pool of sweat" posts.

 

[Scaff]

Is Joe Rogan also selling candles?

Mainly ******** and nonsense, just like Gwyneth Paltrow.

 

[Imari]

He sells Primal kettlebells that smell like "man" out of the box.

Lol, it turns out that David Bowies Labyrinth had a whole herd of door knockers on all sorts of doors, and now they're available to you at low, low prices!

I like the angry baby monkey one, it's adawwable.

 

[Danoff]

Lol, it turns out that David Bowies Labyrinth had a whole herd of door knockers on all sorts of doors, and now they're available to you at low, low prices!

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I like the angry baby monkey one, it's adawwable.

Types into google: "Jennifer Connelly knockers"

wait what?

 

[Joey D]

Types into google: "Jennifer Connelly knockers"

 

[Jezza819]

24 year old former college basketball player dies from Covid one day after showing symptoms.

https://whnt.com/news/madison/bob-jones-graduate-dies-suddenly-from-covid-19-complication/

He played his high school career at the biggest school in our area. I watched the school's football games many years since moving over here but wasn't familiar with the basketball teams.

But Covid doesn't affect the fit, young and healthy right? Right??

 

[VolkswagenX]

But Covid doesn't affect the fit, young and healthy right? Right??

Who said this?

Edit: Was he vaccinated?

 

[Danoff]

Edit: Was he vaccinated?

Fun, let's investigate this one.

If the answer is yes, does it affect the conclusion? The conclusion being that this is an example of a young healthy fit person who is affected by covid. Prior vaccination would make the outcome more pro-vaccine, because we know that vaccines offer protection. So the answer would be yes, it does affect the conclusion, but probably not in the way you hoped.

If the answer is no, does it affect the conclusion? The conclusion being that this is an example of a young healthy fit person who is affected by covid. No.

Are you suggesting that the vaccine might have made things worse?

 

[Joey D]

Who said this?

Edit: Was he vaccinated?

It's a common trope spouted by anti-vaxxers and Covidiots.

 

[VolkswagenX]

Fun, let's investigate this one.

Would not call this fun.. But I'm sorry for even asking man. I got the idea that someone's vaccination was important here on GTP.

It's a common trope spouted by anti-vaxxers and Covidiots.

I doubt that. It's usually more nuanced. I'm sure you know that.

 

[Danoff]

I got the idea that someone's vaccination was important here on GTP.

Oh I see, your question was for everyone else's benefit because you assumed we cared and just hadn't asked yet.... gotcha. [/s]

 

[Joey D]

I doubt that. It's usually more nuanced. I'm sure you know that.

A very common trope among those who are anti-vaxx or anti-COVID-vax is "if you can still get COVID while vaccinated, why should I bother getting vaccinated at all". Never mind the mountain of scientific information out there that shows that no vaccine is 100% effective and the main purpose of a vaccine is to greatly reduce your likelihood that being infected occurs. Yes, there will always be breakthrough cases and some of those breakthrough cases will result in death.

 

[VolkswagenX]

A very common trope among those who are anti-vaxx or anti-COVID-vax is "if you can still get COVID while vaccinated, why should I bother getting vaccinated at all". Never mind the mountain of scientific information out there that shows that no vaccine is 100% effective and the main purpose of a vaccine is to greatly reduce your likelihood that being infected occurs. Yes, there will always be breakthrough cases and some of those breakthrough cases will result in death.

But that's not what I responded to..

But Covid doesn't affect the fit, young and healthy right? Right??

Who is saying this?

 

[Danoff]

Who is saying this?

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[Outspacer]

"nuance"