"Daily" Race Discussion

[sturk0167]

Race C: Gr.4 @ Nordschleife | 2 laps | RH | Tyres x5 | Fuel x2

@Sven Jurgens This one could be winnable from the back.
It's a grid start, so you'll begin the race only about 100 yards away from the leader. 👍

 

[Stephan]

Race B: Gr.3 @ DT Gardens II | 5 laps | RM

I wonder if the Peugeot RCZ Gr.3 is viable for this track or at least the 911 RSR.

If either of those are viable choices then I won't mind covering it for once.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

RIGHT on the edge of the group 4 limits so group 3 may be a struggle.

Much better downforce in Gr 3, I think it will be alright.

OK, two race C in a row, first I started 8th and finished 4th because both P2 and p3 rear ended me in a brake zone on the last two laps.
Honour has no last lap.....

Second race C was great, I started 12th on mediums and pitted on lap 6, when I pass the pits in lap 8 I am p7, then a few guys makes mistakes and I am p6, followed by 2 or 3 guys that's obviously faster than me.
So defence mode on, they are in two Supras and a FT-1, so I go inside and overslow on the apex and let the grunt of the C7 pull me away on exit.
This of course only works because they are clean players so a big thank you.
Finish p6

Edit: @Stephan, it's possible but it's a power track more than anything in reverse. My money are on the Supra and the Corvette

 

[NevilleNobody]

I am thinking the same two cars, supra and FT1 because the loooooooong multiple apex left hander and the final sweeping right need something that rotates well.

 

[Stephan]

Corvette

Alright that's good enough with me. Haven't won a race yet with that car so I may as well give it a shot.

 

[NoStopN]

Next week's dailies:

Race A: N300 @ Sarthe No Chicane | 1 lap | SH
Race B: Gr.3 @ DT Gardens II | 5 laps | RM
Race C: Gr.4 @ Nordschleife | 2 laps | RH | Tyres x5 | Fuel x2

Still staying in Gr. 3 for me. DTG II is obviously more challenging than the forward direction, but it allows for some fun races if everyone gets a case of the yips.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Still staying in Gr. 3 for me. DTG II is obviously more challenging than the forward direction, but it allows for some fun races if everyone gets a case of the yips.

It's a mixed bag, the 4 brothers are a little harder but the hairpin and the chicane are easier

 

[Sven Jurgens]

@Sven Jurgens This one could be winnable from the back.
It's a grid start, so you'll begin the race only about 100 yards away from the leader. 👍

Grid start, uh oh, bye bye SR

They're all winnable from the back, especially the 2 lap versions Looks like another sprint race, x5 wear on hard tires won't make a difference. Fuel weight will just be a burden, which car burns it the fastest. Need a low fuel efficiency car, late shifting. The track will be full of Siroccos I bet, I'll probably be in the Lexus and Huracan.

GR.4 is a bit dull imo, maybe I'll cycle through all cars again. Leaving out the GP section is a plus for me. Bye bye dive bomb corners, pure narrow road fun! But that grid start, T1 is going to be rough. DR reset is pretty much guaranteed starting in the middle of the backfield on a grid start at the Nord. I wonder if this time a none qualified at all race will happen. The record so far is only 3 qualifiers on a N24 C race start of the week. 16 non qualifiers in one race lol.

 

[NoStopN]

It's a mixed bag, the 4 brothers are a little harder but the hairpin and the chicane are easier

I have no idea what you're talking about. Just watch the grass.

 

[O604]

The record so far is only 3 qualifiers on a N24 C race start of the week. 16 non qualifiers in one race lol.

Finally something I beat Sven at. I was in a Nurburgring race once with 2 qualifiers. And I was the only DR B in a A/A+ field.

 

[Tigerhawk87]

Some more daily race C's and the DR is now around 28k, from 42k. Still don't know if I've found my level with the wheel yet. Actually found this race quite enjoyable if I can survive the first few turns

 

[sturk0167]

The track will be full of Siroccos I bet, I'll probably be in the Lexus and Huracan.

I was just thinking "I'll bet one the aliens will put a Huracan into the top 10".
With hard tires, instead of the mediums that they have been giving us a steady diet of, that AWD will probably come in handy.

*Only 8 total laps in next week's 3 races.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I was just thinking "I'll bet one the aliens will put a Huracan into the top 10".
With hard tires, instead of the mediums that they have been giving us a steady diet of, that AWD will probably come in handy.

*Only 8 total laps in next week's 3 races.

I wonder how many races I'll be able to finish with online learning. I'll be home all week, but so are my kids. Constant internet issues, printer issues, math problems, temper tantrums (other than my own), bad timing overall.

I tried to race this morning, 3 disconnects (matchmaking failures), one race distracted by a math question crash in the bus stop, spin out at the next question. One race I sat in the pits for 5 laps trying to get the printer to work. One race completed.

Luckily that one race was a good race. Following closely and swapping positions with 2 other cars for 80% of the race, all clean. We pitted at the same time and continued on in perfect unison. They lost the endurance race unfortunately, one hit the inside wall at T1, the other went wide in T4 the next lap. Another driver had caught up by then, also clean, providing a fun race to the finish. He sneaked passed me in the final turn, clean pass, helped by my finger misfiring skipping a gear. With AT I might have stayed ahead!

Got to air out my kids now, screaming, moody. Their school assignment atm is play a board game. My youngest is the worst at losing. Better get them outside before someone loses an eye! It's a balmy -14c with windchill...

 

[OJBrit]

I have no idea what you're talking about. Just watch the grass.

10,000 drift points.

 

[NevilleNobody]

my kids have not gone to school since the pandemic began, cannot wait until feb 22 when they can hopefully go back.

 

[smcqueen46]

Just for fun, I tried out Sarthe No Chicane with the X-Bow. Man, that Mulsanne Straight takes about half of forever! One could take a little snooze waiting for the Mulsanne Corner.

 

[NoStopN]

10,000 drift points.

PD should make one of the time trial events into a drift trial event occasionally.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Feel like packing it in. Just getting rammed off the track over and over gets tedious. When there’s actual racing going on it’s great but that’s not very often unfortunately. Why don’t they go play wreckfest instead.

 

[GT5Power]

I wonder if the Peugeot RCZ Gr.3 is viable for this track or at least the 911 RSR.

If either of those are viable choices then I won't mind covering it for once.

Both should be among the best for this track

 

[NoStopN]

Feel like packing it in. Just getting rammed off the track over and over gets tedious. When there’s actual racing going on it’s great but that’s not very often unfortunately. Why don’t they go play wreckfest instead.

If the unfair drivers had any idea that there was a game where you are supposed to run into each other, all GTS players could qualify for the world finals.

 

[BigSarj]

Feel like packing it in. Just getting rammed off the track over and over gets tedious. When there’s actual racing going on it’s great but that’s not very often unfortunately. Why don’t they go play wreckfest instead.

Dirt 5 is a PSN game this month.

I did a Race C twice last night. I wasn't feeling it. DFL in the first race and rage quit the second. I may give Race B a try next week. In the meantime, I have to finish my backlog of games before HFW and GT7 come out.

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Dirt 5 is a PSN game this month.

I did a Race C twice last night. I wasn't feeling it. DFL in the first race and rage quit the second. I may give Race B a try next week. In the meantime, I have to finish my backlog of games before HFW and GT7 come out.

I’ve downloaded Dirt and will give it a go tomorrow. I don’t usually get on with rally going all the way back to Colim McCrae on the PS1, I was always a TOCA man myself when not on GT.

watching SuperGT on YouTube. The A+ lobbies are night and day, as you’d expect I suppose. When one divebomb happens it’s of note. Bit of a difference of having half the track trying to murder the entire field on every corner.

 

[CarreraGT]

The SLS is an interesting choice. I can never get on with it. Might have to give it another crack though, haven't driven it in ages. The GT-R is another of my favourite Gr.4 cars, a bit of an underdog which can give some pretty solid results where power and 4WD traction are needed.

I love driving the "underdog" car. Seems everyone is sticking with FWD/AWD in race B but I've had some good races and a couple of wins in the M4, GT-R and NSX. The RWD are so much more fun to drive too, just enough power to break traction on slicks

 

[smcqueen46]

Having a fun day at Race C! Between acts of self-destruction and bumper cars, I came in last or next-to-last in the first couple of races (starting non-qual). Qualified with a 1:39.017 (I told you I was slow!) with the F1 and got a Q3. Then finished P3 after the two guys who passed me got a 1 minute no-pit penalty. Checked my score to find that I had been demoted back down to DR D?!? WTH?

Well, puzzling! Kudosprime shows me going to D yesterday at 2019 points and rising to 3214 today. But my DR in the races I was in today showed me at C! I did quit one race today after I rammed the third wall in a row. Mea culpa.

 

[NoStopN]

I love driving the "underdog" car. Seems everyone is sticking with FWD/AWD in race B but I've had some good races and a couple of wins in the M4, GT-R and NSX. The RWD are so much more fun to drive too, just enough power to break traction on slicks

Shhhhh. Don't tell anybody, but the Gr. 4 GT-R is AWD.

 

[Stilva]

Two unfortunate races for me tonight. Both races I was on the receiving end of some incidental contact. I feel totally deflated after that.

Race 1 I start P15 in a mixed room of A/B drivers. Unfortunately, I got accidentally punted on lap 3 and fell to the back of the field. I did make my way back up the field and had a nice battle with a Canadian driver over P13 after all the pit stops were done. But I just grazed the CoD and lost 2 positions to finish P15.

Race 2 I’m up to P11 so start and find myself in P6 when on lap 3 when P8 dives in on me just as I start my turn into the “snorkel” and fall all the way back to P19 aka dead last. I’m thinking they saw an opportunity to make the pass, but we both got the apex at the same time, and I got the worst of it. It was too late for me to react to the pass attempt, or I would have left some space. I almost quit but keep going and in the end finish P13 when two drivers visit the CoD and spin on the final hairpin on the last lap.

Disappointing racing with circumstances beyond my control. I might do one more tomorrow and be done for the week.

Race C: Gr.4 @ Nordschleife | 2 laps | RH | Tyres x5 | Fuel x2

I had a great time there a few weeks ago. I have to jump in this opportunity to race here again.

 

[LGBT_Barron]

Just on Race C, I have some observations about DTS in general that may be helpful.

Entering the first chicane you are a sitting duck. Just accept it and race smart. You are always better to concede a position and stay on track than fight and get pushed off. If under pressure, pick your line early and drive to that line. If you take the inside into turn 1, take off enough speed to leave a gap on the apex at turn 2. If you stay on the racing line, stay wide enough that you won't get hit by someone taking the first turn apex.

Never go 2 wide through the first kink. If you're caught on the outside, pull out early.

Never go 2 wide into the esses.

There are lots of usable lines into the right hander before the CoD. Pick one and stick to it. Your goal should be to get the car turned at the apex. The usual racing line makes you vulnerable to dive bombs, but if you brake a bit earlier and let them bomb past, you can make a cutback stick into the CoD.

NEVER TAKE THE CoD 2 WIDE.

The final turn is similar to the right hander into the CoD. Lots of people will take the inside and brake later to try and overtake. If you hang wide and concentrate on a late apex you will often get the place back on exit.

Most of all, the divebombers, late brakers and hyper aggressive drivers at DTS almost always come unstuck somewhere. It's a great track for being smart and playing the long game.

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Just on Race C, I have some observations about DTS in general that may be helpful.

Entering the first chicane you are a sitting duck. Just accept it and race smart. You are always better to concede a position and stay on track than fight and get pushed off. If under pressure, pick your line early and drive to that line. If you take the inside into turn 1, take off enough speed to leave a gap on the apex at turn 2. If you stay on the racing line, stay wide enough that you won't get hit by someone taking the first turn apex.

Never go 2 wide through the first kink. If you're caught on the outside, pull out early.

Never go 2 wide into the esses.

There are lots of usable lines into the right hander before the CoD. Pick one and stick to it. Your goal should be to get the car turned at the apex. The usual racing line makes you vulnerable to dive bombs, but if you brake a bit earlier and let them bomb past, you can make a cutback stick into the CoD.

NEVER TAKE THE CoD 2 WIDE.

The final turn is similar to the right hander into the CoD. Lots of people will take the inside and brake later to try and overtake. If you hang wide and concentrate on a late apex you will often get the place back on exit.

Most of all, the divebombers, late brakers and hyper aggressive drivers at DTS almost always come unstuck somewhere. It's a great track for being smart and playing the long game.

That's a spot on observation. The only real place you can pass on GTS (unless driver in front makes a mistake) dis at the hairpin at the end of the back straight (lots of people get that corner wrong.)...and the main straight is the other place if you nail the last corner. I'm crap at power tracks like DTS but it's all about slow in fast out, make long straights of every corner etc

 

[Yard_Sale]

What BB is everyone running for qually and race (if there’s a difference) for the Supra and FT1?

I’ve been tuning the Scooby all week. I’m down to a 1:36.7 with probably a few 1/10’s to find, but I think I’m maxed out in that car for qually and the faster lobbies. It just gets eaten alive on the straights. Tried the Supra and FT1 briefly. Can’t seem to figure them out yet. The Supra is so fast it’s like cheating. The only other car that can keep it in check on the straights is the Mclaren F1. But then there’s the whole handling thing….

I despise running the meta. But I got my Euro Alt within striking distance of “A” for the umpteenth time…so it looks like I need to put my head down and start driving a faster car

 

[LGBT_Barron]

What BB is everyone running for qually and race (if there’s a difference) for the Supra and FT1?

I’ve been tuning the Scooby all week. I’m down to a 1:36.7 with probably a few 1/10’s to find, but I think I’m maxed out in that car for qually and the faster lobbies. It just gets eaten alive on the straights. Tried the Supra and FT1 briefly. Can’t seem to figure them out yet. The Supra is so fast it’s like cheating. The only other car that can keep it in check on the straights is the Mclaren F1. But then there’s the whole handling thing….

I despise running the meta. But I got my Euro Alt within striking distance of “A” for the umpteenth time…so it looks like I need to put my head down and start driving a faster car

Quali 1 to the rear. Race 3/4 to rear on Racing Softs, 1 to rear with Racing Medium

 

[D_Dragline]

What BB is everyone running for qually and race (if there’s a difference) for the Supra and FT1?

I’ve been tuning the Scooby all week. I’m down to a 1:36.7 with probably a few 1/10’s to find, but I think I’m maxed out in that car for qually and the faster lobbies. It just gets eaten alive on the straights. Tried the Supra and FT1 briefly. Can’t seem to figure them out yet. The Supra is so fast it’s like cheating. The only other car that can keep it in check on the straights is the Mclaren F1. But then there’s the whole handling thing….

I despise running the meta. But I got my Euro Alt within striking distance of “A” for the umpteenth time…so it looks like I need to put my head down and start driving a faster car

I run 1 to the rear.

Just had a great race on the NA account. Q6 to P2. Could have won if a backmarker who hadn’t pitted didn’t feel it necessary to defend for his life for a lap in the middle.

@NevilleNobody was in there but looked like he might have had it tough in the mid-pack squall.