Datamined car list

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Has to be the Toyota GTone Ts020 and the Nissan R390 GT1!!

It has to be the Holy Trinity of classic race cars from the series not yet in GT7.

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The last time he was talking about something "about as iconic as the Escudo" he actually meant the Skyline super silhouette, so whenever he says something like this now I try not to get my hopes for these cars up too much :lol:
 
The last time he was talking about something "about as iconic as the Escudo" he actually meant the Skyline super silhouette, so whenever he says something like this now I try not to get my hopes for these cars up too much :lol:
I was not actually refering to that car, however when the cars I have in mind do release I'll definitely make a mention.

In general i'll reiterate, those lists are mixed with GT3-4-5-6 leftovers due to a lack of knowledge from the person behind them, thankfully it's unlikely that any new information that doesn't come from me will surface as of right now for a long while (best it stays that way).

Anyway, there are decent guesses in this thread.
 
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When it comes to Iconic cars, i like to think that they are the Speed 12, Storm V12, Dodge Concept Car, and the Opel Calibra

They aren't S tier like the Toyota GT1, or R390, even the Castrol NSX

But they had some time in the limelight for their own reasons.
 
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When it comes to Iconic cars, i like to think that they are the Speed 12, Storm V12, Dodge Concept Car, and the Opel Calibra

They aren't S tier like the Toyota GT1, or R390, even the Castrol NSX

But they had some time in the limelight for their own reasons.
Opel Calibra and Lister Storm V12 are absolute classics. I would also throw in there the Panoz Esperante as a GT classic.

Wish they'd also bring back the Venturi Atlantique!
 
When it comes to Iconic cars, i like to think that they are the Speed 12, Storm V12, Dodge Concept Car, and the Opel Calibra

They aren't S tier like the Toyota GT1, or R390, even the Castrol NSX

But they had some time in the limelight for their own reasons.
The Speed 12 doesn’t really exist in authentic form. There were a handful of chassis which where chopped & changed between this and the Cerbera Speed 12. I believe a race car was also converted for the road.

There are a few Lister Storm’s knocking around. Although I haven’t seen any competing recently. Many 80’s/90’s cars are in restoration for collectors and historic racing.

The Calibra’s an odd one. The ‘94 car was upgraded for ‘95. So again, I’m not sure how many of these original chassis & spec exist.

A number of Toyota’s where scanned by PD at TMG (now Toyota Gazoo Racing Europe). And of course there are numerous significant Toyota & Nissan race cars stored in Japan.

Two famous cars not mentioned (in recent pages at least) are the Minolta Toyota & Bentley Speed 8. One of the ‘89 Minolta cars is now in private hands.

 
A number of Toyota’s where scanned by PD at TMG (now Toyota Gazoo Racing Europe).
You still cling to this rumor? Is your source the same person who claimed some GTE cars, including the Ford GT, were also supposedly being scanned at a WEC round (without giving their source) while the in-game version of the Ford GT is the IMSA version? (Wouldn't rule out the possibility of multiple scanning sources in that case though.)
 
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The Speed 12 doesn’t really exist in authentic form. There were a handful of chassis which where chopped & changed between this and the Cerbera Speed 12. I believe a race car was also converted for the road.

There are a few Lister Storm’s knocking around. Although I haven’t seen any competing recently. Many 80’s/90’s cars are in restoration for collectors and historic racing.

The Calibra’s an odd one. The ‘94 car was upgraded for ‘95. So again, I’m not sure how many of these original chassis & spec exist.

A number of Toyota’s where scanned by PD at TMG (now Toyota Gazoo Racing Europe). And of course there are numerous significant Toyota & Nissan race cars stored in Japan.

Two famous cars not mentioned (in recent pages at least) are the Minolta Toyota & Bentley Speed 8. One of the ‘89 Minolta cars is now in private hands.

You bring up a few good points, it seems like PD likes to scan their cars for the most part.

The Speed 12 racecar from GT2 still exists IIRC but as a race car, it was purple with yellow wheels IIRC. The Cerbera does not exist in regular form from GT3-GT6 but the bodywork can easily be redone via 3D editing much like T10 did in Forza.

As far as the Calibra I remember reading that the DTM license is supposedly very strict now which is why we only have the Alfa 155 DTM. Would like to see the Lister Storm return as even if it shoes up in a different livery the original one will be recreated regardless.

Would also love to see the Minolta and Speed 8, PD made a premium Speed 8 model in GT6 I think.

If we do indeed receive multiple iconic racecars I believe the most likely one will be the R390, Toyota GT ONE and then the Castrol NSX in that order.
 
I was not actually refering to that car, however when the cars I have in mind do release I'll definitely make a mention.

In general i'll reiterate, those lists are mixed with GT3-4-5-6 leftovers due to a lack of knowledge from the person behind them, thankfully it's unlikely that any new information that doesn't come from me will surface as of right now for a long while (best it stays that way).

Anyway, there are decent guesses in this thread.
Have one question about car selling as your tweet was little confusing for me, accoridng to what you saw will there be possible to sell gifted cars from car roullete ?
 
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If we do indeed receive multiple iconic racecars I believe the most likely one will be the R390, Toyota GT ONE and then the Castrol NSX in that order.
If the GTOne road car were to ever reappear in a racing game, Granturismo's probably the only game.

especially with Kaz's relationship with Toyota. :lol:
 
I'm like 99.9% sure the Pikes Peak Escudo only exists as a bonnet on a garage wall nowadays, so PD clearly have some strong ability to touch up older scans and get more detail from the manufacturers.

In that sense, even with cars that are hard to get a hold of like the Lister Storms or Speed 12's... well, it's still more to go from than a wall decoration - and they managed that well enough.

If PD want to do it, they have the resources and sway to do it. Getting them to do things seems to be the hard part here.
 
The Speed 12 doesn’t really exist in authentic form. There were a handful of chassis which where chopped & changed between this and the Cerbera Speed 12. I believe a race car was also converted for the road.
Mostly correct, there were several race cars and several road cars built, but when the plug was pulled on the sale of the road cars many of them were canibalised for parts for the racing team.

There ended up being a single road car remaining, however it's bodywork had been heavily damaged. This time they canibalised a remaining race car and transferred it's body to the one remaining road car. That was then sold to a private owner.

So although the only remaining road car looks like the race car, it isn't a race car converted for the road. It's simply the road version with the race cars body. It has significantly more power than the race car had, somewhere over 980bhp, the 800bhp figure games use was always just an early estimate/target, the true peak power was never rates but the road car did break a dyno before peak power was achieved, with the power recorded hitting around 980bhp.

The cars a truly a phenomenal beast.
 
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I'm like 99.9% sure the Pikes Peak Escudo only exists as a bonnet on a garage wall nowadays, so PD clearly have some strong ability to touch up older scans and get more detail from the manufacturers.

In that sense, even with cars that are hard to get a hold of like the Lister Storms or Speed 12's... well, it's still more to go from than a wall decoration - and they managed that well enough.

If PD want to do it, they have the resources and sway to do it. Getting them to do things seems to be the hard part here.
I think Suzuki wanted to be part of the manufacturer championship without having a car while PD surely knew how many people would get excited for the Escudo in GT7, so they made that part of the deal.

I don't know how likely a deal of that sort is with TVR.
 
I think Suzuki wanted to be part of the manufacturer championship without having a car while PD surely knew how many people would get excited for the Escudo in GT7, so they made that part of the deal.

I don't know how likely a deal of that sort is with TVR.
I might not know the answer but god if they released a Gr.3 and Gr.4 TVR I can tell you I'd not be driving anything else.
 
I might not know the answer but god if they released a Gr.3 and Gr.4 TVR I can tell you I'd not be driving anything else.
Who knows? in a perfect world PD drops a Cerbera Speed 12, and a few months down the line, the new Griffith drops with a gr.3 variant, going the Suzuki route. :lol:
 
Such a shame that the Toyota Gt one road car disappeared after GT3.

What Gran Turismo needs is a class where it features these GT1 homologation road cars but the GTone road car would no doubt be OP even with bop because its a racecar just disguised as a roadcar the crazy things Toyota did with loopholes.
 
Such a shame that the Toyota Gt one road car disappeared after GT3.

What Gran Turismo needs is a class where it features these GT1 homologation road cars but the GTone road car would no doubt be OP even with bop because its a racecar just disguised as a roadcar the crazy things Toyota did with loopholes.
With the 911 GT1 Street version in the game, I'm hopeful for some competition. Panoz GTR1 and CLK GTR street along with the GTone makes for a nice extra menu book. 👀
 
All I have say about the datamine list….so far…
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