Depression and Anxiety Thread

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Everything went bad in a few days, ended up with an anxiety attack. I failed a lot this semester and i'm a late graduate, at the same moment i just had a break up, filling myself with regrets. Talked to family about it but they just told me to get stronger, i don't think i have any strength left, i feel so weak and pissed. I kept disappointing my family (especially my parents) for all this problems. Opening up to them seems just doesn't work.

How did everything just went to **** in a matter of days ? This isn't helping at all, anxiety is getting worse and it will feed into the depression a lot more.
 
Wow. It can be tough to try to be strong when you yourself don't feel strong enough. I feel the best anyone can do is simply let out your frustrations and your feelings. This is GTPlanet; not YouTube or Reddit, where you're probably going to be laughed at and hated on for sharing your personal sadness. It may be tough, but try to be strong even at this point of weakness. I surely wish you the best moving forward.
 
Wow. It can be tough to try to be strong when you yourself don't feel strong enough. I feel the best anyone can do is simply let out your frustrations and your feelings. This is GTPlanet; not YouTube or Reddit, where you're probably going to be laughed at and hated on for sharing your personal sadness. It may be tough, but try to be strong even at this point of weakness. I surely wish you the best moving forward.

From what I've seen, on r/AskReddit threads about people dealing with depression, the overall responses are of support, and the hateful comments are immediately removed. Even if the thread isn't specifically asking people about their stories with depression, those who post comments about their experiences are met positively.
 
I figured, "whatever, it's nothing I haven't been through before. It isn't that big a deal. Everything will be fine." However, it's never fine.

🤬 that. It's not fine. You shouldn't be trying to tell yourself it's fine, and neither should anyone else. It's a :censored:ty thing she did to you and any normal person would absolutely feel like 🤬. Unfortunately, you probably feel more like 🤬 than most, but there's nothing wrong with that.

You want to know what I do when in similar situations? You know, when it doesn't just make me crawl into bed for a week and only come out once I've run out of food?

Break 🤬.

Obviously, breaking all your possessions is a bad idea. I go to Target, and buy their cheapest big set of dinner plates, and drive out and find myself a big rock somewhere deserted. Then I smash all the plates against the rock while cursing and swearing.

I will admit, that in a certain sense you will not feel better. The depression you just have to sort of live through. On the other hand, it does feel better to have given that sad part inside yourself a chance to just rage. Because let's be honest, that's a totally appropriate response to the situation, but one that "society" tends to frown apon.

🤬 society. Smash stuff.

Talked to family about it but they just told me to get stronger...

That's the worst advice I ever heard.

You don't have to be stronger. This is not something that is your fault, or that you can necessarily do anything about. However, there are people, treatments and techniques that can help.

I found that what helped me to get started on the right road was finding the right doctor (I had to go through several, because many don't understand mental health) who put me on the right anti-depressant. That was enough to take the edge off, and while I still felt and feel awful I can actually start putting into practise some of the other more long term treatments and reorganise my life.

I kept disappointing my family (especially my parents) for all this problems. Opening up to them seems just doesn't work.

This is a horrible thing to say, but some people just don't get it and aren't helpful. I have the advantage of not living with my parents, but I definitely don't talk to my mother when I want support with my depression. Her solution to everything is just try harder, and she doesn't get it that depression actually cripples the part of you that could try harder. It's like trying to run on broken legs.

How did everything just went to **** in a matter of days ? This isn't helping at all, anxiety is getting worse and it will feed into the depression a lot more.

You're right, anxiety and depression can feed themselves.

How did it go to 🤬 in a few days? It could be many things, but it's entirely possible that your brain or internal chemicals simply reached a tipping point and threw you over the edge. That doesn't really help you any to know that, but it's very likely not anything specific that you did or could have done anything about.

Sometimes, our brains just 🤬 with us. It sucks.

Look, I don't want to make this into any more of a wall of text than it already is. I've been going through some treatment for what sounds like similar stuff for a couple of months. It's starting to help, I think. If you want any advice or just want to talk to someone, PM me.
 
Umm what do you mean by mineral water? Like Vitamin Water or something?
No. My mineral water I mean a well recognized bottled water marketed as "sparkling natural mineral water". It will have a relatively high pH, contain minerals, and be carbonated. It will be bottled under pressure and contain bubbles. It tastes good and, more importantly, helps you to feel good.
 
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No. My mineral water I mean a well recognized bottled water marketed as "sparkling natural mineral water". It will have a relatively high pH, contain minerals, and be carbonated. It will be bottled under pressure and contain bubbles. It tastes good and, more importantly, helps you to feel good.
Oh you mean branded water and such, and I don't know if there's a difference, I mean some brand water bottles I usually drink sometimes tasted different like it was bind with the plastic I guess, I really don't know.
 
Oh you mean branded water and such, and I don't know if there's a difference, I mean some brand water bottles I usually drink sometimes tasted different like it was bind with the plastic I guess, I really don't know.
Proper mineral water will come in a one liter glass bottle.

My hypothesis is that mental, physical and emotional health are all founded on a healthy body and healthy body chemistry. Since we are about 70% water by weight and over 90% by molecule count, the quality and quantity of water we ingest is of very great importance. In its properties, proper mineral water differs significantly from ordinary bulk water, and offers health benefits foundational to diet, exercise and the other therapies we need to keep us at our best. It's cheap, available and easy to use. I think it's worth a try!
 
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Proper mineral water will come in a one liter glass bottle.

My hypothesis is that mental, physical and emotional health are all founded on a healthy body and healthy body chemistry. Since we are about 70% water by weight and over 90% by molecule count, the quality and quantity of water we ingest is of very great importance. In its properties, proper mineral water differs significantly from ordinary bulk water, and offers health benefits foundational to diet, exercise and the other therapies we need to keep us at our best. It's cheap, available and easy to use. I think it's worth a try!

Sounds like you're trying to sell us the product. All you need next, is a referral link. :odd:
 
Sorry for double posting but I really need to get this off my mind, well my mind is scattered with sadness, anger, and conflict, and 🤬 but yeah, have any of you heard or read about the Pandas Syndrome?

Apparently after a 🤬 talk with my dad, he mentioned something to me after I reminded him of the flu I had 5 years old and how that might have affected my mental state without me realizing it until it gave me my first panic attack.

Apparently this so-called "Pandas Syndrome" is basically when OCD randomly appears after suffering a illness like a strep infection aka sore throat and scarlet fever which is a bacterial illness like a stomach virus. Anyways back then, around the time of Christmas 2011, It was the last day of school before break started and I woke up with a high fever and my voice was gone and I became very sensitive to light, My parents just dimissed it at the time and thought it was a normal flu, but with a little stomach virus and sore throat, I went to the doctor and didn't go to school and he gave me some medicine and such and yeah, but there something different about this but I didn't really pay attention back then due to my fear of throwing up my guts out everytime I got sick. Anyways since I was a kid, I wouldn't get headaches like usual people would get like it would surround the entire forehead but for me, It started to only get headaches on the left side of my head and it would hurt a lot too and it would also affect my left eye a lot. Although It went away for a couple of years until I got sick of that "illness" in 2011 and it was even worse...

I was sick the entire Christmas Break and I really didn't get better until the middle of January 2012 but I still had problems clearing my throat, then the last week of that month, on Monday, I started to feel sick again and I was started to have trouble breathing over and over, but I didn't mind it since it would go away,until that Thursday and Friday of that week...

As I said before when I first had my panic attack, I started to have trouble eating all of a sudden and my hands would start shaking slowly and I would get a "silent headache" where I feel my head drowsy and such without the pain. Anyways on that Friday, The last class, I became suddenly desperate to go home and My breathing started to get worse as I felt like I had asthma or something but when I went outside of school, It went away...

After that, I guess you all know the rest, I went home, played some GT5 like usual, I went to eat and then I started "choking" like a madman and felt like the air was sucked out of me, couldn't eat at all that day and felt tense and shaky and woke up the next day feeling like Death was getting to me and I end up in the ER in the hospital...

Now after reading through my memories one more time (As doing that isn't painful enough...) I say this... What if all of this, my anxiety, my depression, my sadness, my anger, my deprivation, my fears, my weaknesses, my hatred and jealous and my despair, was because I silently got this syndrome after I got sick and it gave me anxiety and depression... That would explain it all, why I obsess a lot over the past, why I am always angry, why I always am sad and why I became like this, a weakened teenager who has no sense of anything and has no idea what to do...

Right now, I basically quit school at this point, I haven't gone at all, and I am surprised they haven't send me to the hospital yet, and I hope to whoever is in the heavens, that 🤬🤬 never happens again... but It's hard to believe in that when I don't even have hope..., Everytime I enclose myself in my room, my:censored:🤬 parents always try to break in and threaten me and such, like I basically have no sanity at this point, I can just... :banghead:, honestly I don't know anymore, I feel like all this time, I was deceived by my own mind, by my own self that I created a present time when no one else can survive, that I am this burden who has to suffer this fate, after all, everyone blames me for this... I always have dreams of death when the world would be better if my existence was erased but I am stuck here in this infinite loop, Time goes on for everyone else but for me it doesn't. My parents know my weaknesses now so I can't do anything anymore... Nothing private as the whole goddamn doctors think they know every little detail about me by looking at a file that's been manipulated... All of them think I am the crazy one when in reality, They are the ones who are crazy and I am the one who suffers the despair...
 
Her solution to everything is just try harder, and she doesn't get it that depression actually cripples the part of you that could try harder. It's like trying to run on broken legs.

Finally, yes this is exactly what i'm feeling. Thanks man. I just feel like i don't have anymore strength to "stand up". I tried to talk to my parents because i hit rock bottom and don't have any idea what to do. I want to go to the doctor but in the same time i have a bit of financial problem too so unfortunately i'm gonna have to wait a bit.

All these things are worsen with the fact that i think too much (a bad habit i used to do since i was little) and when i think too much, there would be these bad scenarios happening in my head which obviously doesn't help my condition at all. This sucks, really sucks.

At least i haven't got any anxiety attacks since 3 days ago.
 
Dan
Sounds like you're trying to sell us the product. All you need next, is a referral link. :odd:
I'm not selling anything, and I don't need a referral link. Are you suspicious of mineral water? Maybe you want to be sick. If so, I cannot help you.


This thread is becoming more Strangelove every week, thanks to @Dotini I think.

If there were a finger emoticon, I would give it to you.
 
Finally, yes this is exactly what i'm feeling. Thanks man. I just feel like i don't have anymore strength to "stand up". I tried to talk to my parents because i hit rock bottom and don't have any idea what to do. I want to go to the doctor but in the same time i have a bit of financial problem too so unfortunately i'm gonna have to wait a bit.

All these things are worsen with the fact that i think too much (a bad habit i used to do since i was little) and when i think too much, there would be these bad scenarios happening in my head which obviously doesn't help my condition at all. This sucks, really sucks.

I'll tell you something interesting. I had the exact same thought before I started treatment. I work in an intellectual profession, and since I'd had these thought patterns all my life I thought they were normal. Because how would I know otherwise?

It turns out that they're part of the depression. If you get treatment, you'll find that the negativity will decrease and your mental clarity will actually improve. You'll be able to think clearer and faster, but you won't have trouble ignoring those bad scenarios. You'll still think of them, but they won't get stuck in your head until it's all you can think about.

It's nice.

Do whatever you need to do to get through until you can see a doctor. Don't put it off too long. There's no need to go through what you're going through for any longer than necessary. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.

At least i haven't got any anxiety attacks since 3 days ago.

That's good news! :)

I'm not selling anything, and I don't need a referral link. Are you suspicious of mineral water? Maybe you want to be sick. If so, I cannot help you.

Dude, if drinking mineral water was all it took to cure depression then nobody would be here.

While you're right that mental health is at least in part predicated on a healthy body, it is not the solution. Basically every doctor in the world will tell you to eat right and get good hydration for basically any condition you care to name, because it's good advice regardless and it can't hurt. But it's not a cure, or even a decent treatment for anything except being thirsty.

Anyone with a mental health problem should absolutely make sure they're eating a healthy diet and getting good hydration. Perhaps that could include mineral water, if they wished. But that should be secondary to seeing a trained professional and setting up a treatment plan. Which may include any or all of the following: diet and exercise, talking therapies, behavioural training, medication, referrals to other specialists or anything else the doctor thinks may help.

Depression is a real condition, and suggesting that it can be cured by drinking water only minimises it's severity. It can be very damaging to people with depression to suggest things like this. The proper treatment for even minor depression is 1. Find a doctor you trust, 2. Talk to them about it. This stuff can spiral out of control way too easily.
 
I'll tell you something interesting. I had the exact same thought before I started treatment. I work in an intellectual profession, and since I'd had these thought patterns all my life I thought they were normal. Because how would I know otherwise?

It turns out that they're part of the depression. If you get treatment, you'll find that the negativity will decrease and your mental clarity will actually improve. You'll be able to think clearer and faster, but you won't have trouble ignoring those bad scenarios. You'll still think of them, but they won't get stuck in your head until it's all you can think about.

It's nice.

Do whatever you need to do to get through until you can see a doctor. Don't put it off too long. There's no need to go through what you're going through for any longer than necessary. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.



That's good news! :)

Thanks man, really. I'll try saving some money for the treatment.
 
Dude, if drinking mineral water was all it took to cure depression then nobody would be here.

While you're right that mental health is at least in part predicated on a healthy body, it is not the solution. Basically every doctor in the world will tell you to eat right and get good hydration for basically any condition you care to name, because it's good advice regardless and it can't hurt. But it's not a cure, or even a decent treatment for anything except being thirsty.

Anyone with a mental health problem should absolutely make sure they're eating a healthy diet and getting good hydration. Perhaps that could include mineral water, if they wished. But that should be secondary to seeing a trained professional and setting up a treatment plan. Which may include any or all of the following: diet and exercise, talking therapies, behavioural training, medication, referrals to other specialists or anything else the doctor thinks may help.

Depression is a real condition, and suggesting that it can be cured by drinking water only minimises it's severity. It can be very damaging to people with depression to suggest things like this. The proper treatment for even minor depression is 1. Find a doctor you trust, 2. Talk to them about it. This stuff can spiral out of control way too easily.

Dude, I never suggested mineral water was THE CURE for depression, only that it might be a helpful first step. Although I have never suffered from depression, my friend Harvey has struggled with it all his life. He has recently found a prescription drug which, although it allays his depression, does seem to alter other parts of his personality. So, dude, I wish you the best of luck.
 
Probably fair to say that I'm on the upper end of the good eating and good general body condition scale, and happen to drink a hell of a lot of mineral water (partly thanks to avoiding ingesting fluoride in tap water). Unfortunately I'm regardless on the lower end of the will to live scale, all too persistently. I have come across research suggesting that the brain's bacteria apes that of the gut's bacteria, which in turn affects how we think though, and something about that resonates with me.

I suppose there's an irony in that fluoride is purported to be a controlling (read dumbing down) chemical, and if I subjected myself to it's semi-forced influence, I may be more able to live with myself.
 
:D Thanks Man.

Seriously though, I'm not disagreeing with you.

However, I'm curious as to why you state it must be carbonated?

Finally a polite and respectful reply. Thank you.

I'm not suggesting mineral water MUST be carbonated to be helpful - it doesn't. It is a matter of small things adding up to make a thing more fit for use. The important thing is to start drinking any authentic mineral water you can get your hands on and merely see if you benefit from it. It cannot hurt!

While I'm at it, I'll make another depression-fighting suggestion likely to draw down howls of incredulity from the pessimists: Take off your shoes and socks and spend time walking, standing or just plain loafing on the sand, grass or smooth rock of the Earth. I'm not going to give references or scientific explanations. Just do it, and you may be very well-pleased at how much better this simple, cheap activity makes you feel. Again, it cannot hurt! We'll talk about science at a later time. Right now, I'd like to hear about some depressed people feeling better.
 
I have come across research suggesting that the brain's bacteria apes that of the gut's bacteria, which in turn affects how we think though, and something about that resonates with me.

Here I will suggest probiotics - relatively cheap and widely available at grocery stores and health food stores - as a reasonable, safe and sound way to improve the health of your gut, your whole body including your brain.
 
Finally a polite and respectful reply. Thank you.

I'm not suggesting mineral water MUST be carbonated to be helpful - it doesn't. It is a matter of small things adding up to make a thing more fit for use. The important thing is to start drinking any authentic mineral water you can get your hands on and merely see if you benefit from it. It cannot hurt!

While I'm at it, I'll make another depression-fighting suggestion likely to draw down howls of incredulity from the pessimists: Take off your shoes and socks and spend time walking, standing or just plain loafing on the sand, grass or smooth rock of the Earth. I'm not going to give references or scientific explanations. Just do it, and you may be very well-pleased at how much better this simple, cheap activity makes you feel. Again, it cannot hurt! We'll talk about science at a later time. Right now, I'd like to hear about some depressed people feeling better.

Fair enough.

Earth Reiki?

As for depressed people feeling better. My story has recently got a lot more complicated, and I can't really be bothered to get into it... however one element that I thought was worth noting... St. John's wort.

Honestly, I'd always dismissed it (as I tend to with all 'herbal remedies'), so despite giving up on every medication I've ever been prescribed for depression/anxiety, I had never tried it. For some reason I don't recall, I picked some up whilst I was in the Supermarket, and I gave it a go. I have to say, I've noticed it having more of an effect than most of the prescription SSRI's have had. And, unlike those, I really wasn't expecting anything, so I doubt it was simply the same placebo effect I felt the prescription meds had.

It's not a game changer, but the effect has been noticeable.
 
Take off your shoes and socks and spend time walking, standing or just plain loafing on the sand, grass or smooth rock of the Earth.
I've heard of research positing that getting dirt under fingernails has an actual chemically positive effect. That the love of gardening that some people have may have a scientific rationale lurking beneath.
Right now, I'd like to hear about some depressed people feeling better.
Being a "roller coaster rider" I feel better with some sort of regularity. I'm after actually being better.
 
Firstly I wish all of you guys the strenght to get better....

As some know, a few years ago I suffered from an illness, that in western medicine is classified as psoriasis. In Asia it is in an own category.

Now during that time, doctors wanted me to just take heavy immune suppressions. I refused, because those stuff is hammer and can be more dangerous than doing good. My diagnostic was not good: A life long would I suffer from this and the only remedy (there is no cure) would be heavy immune suppressors. That is what countless doctors told me. I never excepted it. And my case, the "pso" was so bad that most doctors hadn't seen a severe case like this in all their career, only in books.

So I read a lot, research, passed my nights with it. Obviously being skinned alive did also caused to play with my mind.

I sometimes come in here and read, because I have a few friends that suffer from depression, and reading here makes me understand it better, so I can be more sensitive when taking to them...

I wholehearty agree on water that is not filled with fluoride. I was shocked when I saw that San Pelligrino now has Fluorid in them since Coca Cola owns them. Fluorid is a calsification agent, while good on spot treatement for teeth, absorbing it in the body, is lead to believe a calsification of the brain... (also in the US, you have a lead problem in the tap water). Also don't drink coffee from the capsules like nespresso. It's aluminium, an heavy metal ( I firmly believe this was the catalyst, ignition for my illness)

So avoiding that is already good.


On the bacteria side of things.... too much probiotics is bad. And in western society we have too many of them, because too much milk products, probiotics drinks and supplements.

A lot comes from the intestins. It's something modern science has negleted too much for too long.
In Japan there is a supplement that differs greatly from the milk biotics, that is used to counter the milk biotics.
Because milk Biotics eat away Vitamin D and E. (vitamin D comes from tanking sun, and makes serotonine go up, making you happy, so a heavy decrease is not good....)

Now I know an enema is not what people really are eager to go through, I wasn't either. But that could help.
An other remedy that helped my greatly in restoring balance in my intestins is :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safflower

It cleans the intestins. I started drinking that (comes in tea form) and saw an ease of my symptoms in days. It doesn't cost a lot and it's always worth a try for those wanting to try.

I could post images of my illness, but it's really graphic as i was litterally skinned alive, my palms and feet were raw, I could not even walk, cut my dinner, nothing... I suffered during that time, went to a lot of doctors, alternative therapies etc...

It's just an advice, as I saw on this page, the term of infection and bacteria coming up a lot, so I taught I would share a bit of my passage through hell.
( I always wanted to start a thread about this after I was cured, but I never came to it, and as I am fully healed, it's quite graphic...)
 
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I've heard of research positing that getting dirt under fingernails has an actual chemically positive effect. That the love of gardening that some people have may have a scientific rationale lurking beneath.

Being a "roller coaster rider" I feel better with some sort of regularity. I'm after actually being better.

IMO, plunging your hands into Earth's soil or sand is in effect the same thing as walking barefooted - it puts you into intimate contact with the Earth. It also tends to balance your electrical charge with that of the Earth. Since the Earth is negatively charged, so will you become. Being buried in sand or taking a mudbath is said to enhance this effect, again said to be one of great well-being.
 
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Dude, I never suggested mineral water was THE CURE for depression, only that it might be a helpful first step.

No. It should be a helpful SECOND step.

Everyone who has to deal with chronic depression has to find their own little ways of adjusting their life to stay balanced. This is where things like mineral water, or gardening, or whatever come into play.

If someone is suffering from depression and is looking for relief, none of those things should be the first point of call. The first step should always be seeing a doctor or mental health professional that you trust and talking with them.

Like many people who have not suffered from depression and just want to help, I don't think you understand how debilitating true depression is. It is not a case of finding something to make you feel better, like taking a barefoot walk on the beach. A seriously depressed person is literally unable to feel better. Their brain, for reasons that may be chemical, emotional, or structural, will not let them.

Water and barefoot walks are at best maintenance, not treatment. They will not get you out of the hole, and no one should expect them to. If they do, then you were just sad.

The best explanation I've found of what it's like to be depressed is this:

http://hyperboleandahalf.blogspot.com.au/2013/05/depression-part-two.html

Language warning, contains swears.

Obviously people's experiences vary, but this has been very accurate to my own experience. Although I haven't progressed as far as the author yet.
 
The first step should always be seeing a doctor or mental health professional that you trust and talking with them.

I respectfully disagree.

I'm sure you've heard the expression, "Physician heal thyself". The deeper meaning of this is that it
is one's own task to take ownership of and responsibility for your health. Once one honestly does that, choosing an appropriate professional for additional guidance and assistance is justified. Then one can clearly advocate to the physician what your defects are, and subsequently ascertain whether or not the physician is listening to you and acting effectively on your behalf.

A practical example is post #499, where the graphic shows 75% of Americans are mildly dehydrated, and a 5% decrease in water may cause dizziness, fatigue and a decrease in mental performance. There's no excuse for not drinking enough water, and to go to a physician complaining of dizziness, fatigue and mental issues and not tell him you're dehydrated says you're not taking enough responsibility for your own health. You're liable to come away poorer and still with the same problems.
 
I guess, i'm feeling a bit better now, aside from few people asking me about my final exam (which i failed miserably) triggered my anxiety a bit. Though i feel that i started to become a bit cranky.

Seeing my parents and other relatives being happy and enjoying themselves really make me sad. I really feel that i shouldn't join them for all the problems i have that could ruin their time. I don't expect them to understand what i'm feeling, i know they are trying to help by giving me great advices but now it doesn't help, no such luck at all.

It's getting real hard to smile now, at best i could only scoff.
 
I respectfully disagree.

And I with your posts.

Imari's posts tally exactly with everything I've taken the time to read all over the internet about depression, numerous people's accounts of how they feel and what real depression does to them.

Your attitude is similar (although focusing on water, more simplistic) than mine was before experiencing a loved one with depression and researching it.

This will likely fall on deaf ears, but genuinely, the analogy of trying to run on broken legs is synonymous with countless other first hand accounts of people with real depression. That is truly what it is actually like. And as much as your sentiment is based on an attempt to be constructive and encouraging, and indeed you're taking the time to try and help as you see best, if somebody had broken legs and was upset that they couldn't run, would you still be suggesting they drunk more water?
 
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