Drag Racing Mode

[Jay]

I've realised we don't need drag tires after all, although it would be nice to have. What's is to just let us race each other down a proper drag strip, with staging and reaction time involved.

Clearly I'm not part of this "we", I don't care about racing each other and staging all that much, I need drag radials (well, I would like them more than any other drag option) in sizes to fit street cars with suitable wheels.

 

[Strittan]

Clearly I'm not part of this "we", I don't care about racing each other and staging all that much, I need drag radials (well, I would like them more than any other drag option) in sizes to fit street cars with suitable wheels.

What's the point of having drag radials if you're not able to race anyone? What's the point of having drag racing at all if you're not able to race anyone? Sounds very lame to me...

 

[Jay]

I like to build the cars and race the clock, which is what a big part of Australian drag racing is about. People build up drag cars and try and break records and get below the next whole number, mostly from street based cars.

Official bracket racing etc doesn't interest me. Oh sorry I mean... "Sounds very lame to me"

 

[Strittan]

I like to build the cars and race the clock, which is what a big part of Australian drag racing is about. People build up drag cars and try and break records and get below the next whole number, mostly from street based cars.

Official bracket racing etc doesn't interest me. Oh sorry I mean... "Sounds very lame to me"

Oh, so a big part of australian drag racing is not racing at all to begin with then. 👍

 

[Jay]

You race the clock 👍

As I said all I ask for is drag radials, for me it's the most important part. Online will make it very easy to drag race your friends if you so wish.

 

[Seismica]

We should have multi car drag races aswell, on the top gear runway or something. Like so:



I would have more fun racing stock cars, but drag spec tyres and other modifications would be nice to have for those interested in that area of racing 👍

 

[Strittan]

You race the clock 👍

As I said all I ask for is drag radials, for me it's the most important part.

Are you seriously telling me that you think it's more fun and exciting to race the clock, with your drag radials, than racing a friend online without them?

Online will make it very easy to drag race your friends if you so wish.

Yes, and in order to make this online drag racing more accurate and exciting, we (except you of course) need a real drag strip with a tree and all it's functions and staging.

I agree with though. Drag parts of any kind would be awesome, but IMO it's how the drag racing itself works that is important.

 

[Jay]

Are you seriously telling me that you think it's more fun and exciting to race the clock, with your drag radials, than racing a friend online without them?

Nothing personal but I really prefer to race friends on circuits bumper to bumper.

I can/will make/tune drag monsters (among other track cars) in single player, the building/tuning of the drag car is more interesting to me than finding someone to race against for less than 7 seconds (optimist ). It's a good way to put the abundance of power to good use, without proper tyres it is much harder and frustrating, because of this most cars I played around with for 400m runs in previous GT's were 4WD.

Obviously I don't expect the cars suddenly become glued to the ground with these tyres but even R5 tyres in GT4 were not good enough. So correct tyres are the most important part to me. Anymore would be a cherry on top.

 

[mafia_boy]

Meh, I could live without, but if it is implemented, then PD should make it mandatory to use Manual Transmission, and put equal cars against each other, to prove who the better man is.

Just to let you know, automatic cars are very, very common in drag racing.

thats because you lose 2 or 3 km/h shifting gears with a manual. whereas with an auto box, you don't lose any speed. there's no break in acceleration during gear changes.

People who runs manuals in drag racing doesn't use the clutch (not many of them anyway), so no, that's not what it's about either.

I think some people simply prefer to run sticks while others like automatics. I mean, it's a lot easier to run an automatic, and I guess it's also cheaper. Not to mention, there are a lot of automatics in the states, so why not race them?

The only problem I have here is with Heath's comment. The main reason is because there are things called "air-shifted" manuals which are just as quick in changing gears if not faster than their automatic counterparts. Here's an example of a button operated air-shifted manual and the shift times can be counted in the milliseconds. Start watching at 0:55.


Then on top of this....the quickest road car in GT4, the GT-R Concept changes gears in a very similar fashion, taking milliseconds to shift (I get into 7th gear within 5 seconds!) and all the people who use this car on the 1/4 mile will agree with me on that fact.

Lastly, if you look at the pro categories of the NHRA (Pro Stock, Pro Stock Motorcycle) you can hear the shifts take next to no time aswell and in Pro Stock they are using a gated shifter, not a button. If you get into nitro, then it's a matter of how many clutch discs (notice...CLUTCH DISC, not TORQUE CONVERTOR) can be used (now it's usually 5) and how quickly or slowly they apply the clutch discs onto the motor to transfer all that power without overpowering the track.

Seperately.....Sureboss, have you got any video of that 7sec GT-R at Santa Pod??

 

[Strittan]

Damn, those rotaries are some crazy machines!

 

[Nicksfix]

Damn, those rotaries are some crazy machines!

I've seen a lot of import drag racing machines,including rotaries,that can put the hurts to some of the best cars out there.You can never rule out imports as a serious competitor.

 

[Jay]

Drag racing in Australia and New Zealand is full of these cars, as well as V8's and almost everything else, it's a great variety.

 

[Strittan]

Drag racing in Australia and New Zealand is full of these cars, as well as V8's and almost everything else, it's a great variety.

Although I've never seen a rotary here in Europe, I think the variety is just as great where ever you go.

In Sweden we run everything from Top Fuels to... that's right... Volvos.

Carbon PV with a B21ET 16V engine

Carbon Amazon


850 with a B230ET 16V engine


740 with a B230ET 8V engine




Australian drag racing is pure awesomeness though! Love the Holdens. 👍

 

[Jay]

Like you said, you don't see rotories which is a huge loss IMO.

 

[finnracer]

I like to build the cars and race the clock, which is what a big part of Australian drag racing is about. People build up drag cars and try and break records and get below the next whole number, mostly from street based cars.

Official bracket racing etc doesn't interest me. Oh sorry I mean... "Sounds very lame to me"

thats pretty much my thoughts on drag racing and how it should be done +1000

 

[Jdm_209]

I like to build the cars and race the clock, which is what a big part of Australian drag racing is about. People build up drag cars and try and break records and get below the next whole number, mostly from street based cars.

Official bracket racing etc doesn't interest me. Oh sorry I mean... "Sounds very lame to me"

It's not always street based cars that wants to break a lower record, i feel racing the clock is not so "fun", i'll rather build a car and try and get a lower et everytime.

 

[TokyoDrift]

Oh, so a big part of australian drag racing is not racing at all to begin with then. 👍

Ever heard the saying, "race against time"?

 

[Sureboss]

Seperately.....Sureboss, have you got any video of that 7sec GT-R at Santa Pod??

http://eurodragster.com/santapod/live/2009uknationalfinals/pictures/sunday/images/pic25.asp

Picture of it, can't find any videos as yet.

Engine.

I vaguely remembered the name Johnny McKeon, but his Skyline is white. All I know is this guy had a 7.90 dial in and the engine went pop on the 2nd run and was on a big flatbed for the rest of the day. I know he didn't get near that dial-in on his 1st (and possibly 2nd run) of the day, but he didn't change it, so it must be capable, or he's seriously deluded. I'll have a look through the guide to see if I can see anything.

Could be Rick Garrett's Skyline, which is listed at 604ci (er ~10L), but I can't find anything about it, though he does have a Dodge Dart somewhere.

Don't know whose it is!

 

[speedy_2]

I think Drag racing would be sweet. But they would really need to improve the physics for it to be really good. Here's a few aspects I think it would need.

* Modifications specifically for Drag racing. That is, once you get to a certain ET. Chutes, cages, "tubbing", etc.

*Physics additions. Possibility of wheelies, realistic amount of tire smoke. If dynamic weather is in the game now you have to add changes in physics with track temps, humidity, etc.

* Cosmetic additions. The Drag race look would need to be completely. Wrinkle wall tires, body parts, etc.

 

[raybould1345]

ive tried it in forza 3 on my gf's brothers xbox, had a couple of races with him and he had a laugh and it fun. so i think they should!

 

[Strittan]

I think Drag racing would be sweet. But they would really need to improve the physics for it to be really good. Here's a few aspects I think it would need.

* Modifications specifically for Drag racing. That is, once you get to a certain ET. Chutes, cages, "tubbing", etc.

*Physics additions. Possibility of wheelies, realistic amount of tire smoke. If dynamic weather is in the game now you have to add changes in physics with track temps, humidity, etc.

* Cosmetic additions. The Drag race look would need to be completely. Wrinkle wall tires, body parts, etc.

I would also like all these fatures, but it will never happen, so that's why I think what's important, is to make the tree and timing work probably and the ability to race each other online.

Imagine if you and your friend are racing each other and you're in the exact same car as he is. Then it's all about who has got the best reaction time and/or who is best at shifting gears. Sounds very intense if you ask me!

Drag parts such as drag slicks, wheeliebars, line-lock etc would be awesome, but if they let us race down a proper drag strip with reaction times and fauls involved I would be more than happy. Jay, if you only want to race the clock you can do that without specific drag upgrades...

 

[Nicksfix]

if they let us race down a proper drag strip with reaction times and fauls involved I would be more than happy.

Thats not a lot to ask for in all honesty.

 

[happycorey]

Yeah, we could honestly do without every aspect, but tire heating, setting up at the light by ourselves, a working light would be perfectly fine.

 

[Strittan]

Just to make it as easy as possible to implement, they could leave staging out as well. The thing is though, that the staging procedure shouldn't be very hard at all to include, and it's a big part of drag racing actually. It's where you get yourself confortable and really start to focus and concentrate on the tree.

Anyway, functional tree and ability to leave early (redlight/faul) is a must IMO... and the Infineon Raceway drag strip!

 

[finnracer]

And to keep the Brits happy Santa Pod!!!

 

[happycorey]

Just to make it as easy as possible to implement, they could leave staging out as well. The thing is though, that the staging procedure shouldn't be very hard at all to include, and it's a big part of drag racing actually. It's where you get yourself confortable and really start to focus and concentrate on the tree.

Anyway, functional tree and ability to leave early (redlight/faul) is a must IMO... and the Infineon Raceway drag strip!

Well it could honestly be a girl dropping a flag. But heating the tires is necessary for good times, and like GT4, uncontrollable spinning down most of the track was ridiculous

 

[Lucas]

and like GT4, uncontrollable spinning down most of the track was ridiculous

Yeah... I don't know how "Super soft" racing tires are supposed to work in real life, but I know how they aren't supposed to... like in GT4.

 

[happycorey]

But thinking back I should've messed with the full custom differential, now that my PS2 has crapped out and my Slim is no BC, I can't go and retry those times

 

[Lucas]

I believe it does an almost inexistent difference (if any whatsoever).

 

[Strittan]

Well it could honestly be a girl dropping a flag. But heating the tires is necessary for good times, and like GT4, uncontrollable spinning down most of the track was ridiculous

Flags were replaced by the "christmas tree" in the 60's, and for an obviously good reason, so no thanks.

And about heating the tires, that depends on what tires you're using. Doing a burnout with road tires would do very little to no good at all. Also, the physics are miles better than GT4 already in GT5P so burnouts won't spin as crazy as it did in GT4. I agree drag slicks and burnouts would be awesome though.