Drugs

[Young_Warrior]

skip- I used to push the stuff. Most of my friends still do.

 

[Danoff]

Some people consider a club a safe environment. Or a party at a friends house. Those are quite arguably NOT safe. So it's not a self explanatory question.

A room full of pillows with some food, water, a bathrrom, and a TV (preferably with video games).

That'll keep a high person content and safe for days.

 

[PS]

A room full of pillows with some food, water, a bathrrom, and a TV (preferably with video games).

That'll keep a high person content and safe for days.

Exactly. Well, not if they're into that heavy **** like crack/rocks/coke or whatever, but shrooms and weed are fine for that.

What would you consider a safe environment?

Somewhere where you're not likely to harm yourself and/or with friends. I'm not going to say a padded room, but somewhere away from stairs, pools, stuff like that. Shroomz alter your sense of perception so something could look much bigger or much smaller than it actually is, and you can end up seeing ****. Like people. Or animals. Or people with animal body parts. Some folks freak out at that stuff, others sit back and go "Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn....". But I'd prefer to be somewhere safe, as listed above.

 

[MrktMkr1986]

Swift it was a stupid question in the first place. A safe environment is any that the subject feels secure in, it's self explanatory...

I feel safe driving my father's Volvo and my Volvo at 110 mph on Interstate 87. Tell me that's a safe environment.

skip- I used to push the stuff. Most of my friends still do.

Then why the hell did you stop?!

A room full of pillows with some food, water, a bathrrom, and a TV (preferably with video games).

That'll keep a high person content and safe for days.

Until the crackhead starves to death of course.

Exactly. Well, not if they're into that heavy **** like crack/rocks/coke or whatever, but shrooms and weed are fine for that.

Somewhere where you're not likely to harm yourself and/or with friends. I'm not going to say a padded room, but somewhere away from stairs, pools, stuff like that.

With friends will just make things more dangerous. I've seen what happens.

A padded room sounds good.

Shroomz alter your sense of perception so something could look much bigger or much smaller than it actually is, and you can end up seeing ****. Like people. Or animals. Or people with animal body parts. Some folks freak out at that stuff, others sit back and go "Daaaaaaaaaaaaamn....". But I'd prefer to be somewhere safe, as listed above.

What are you saying here?

 

[Danoff]

Until the crackhead starves to death of course.

I said that there needed to be food in there. Do you know how long it takes to starve to death?

 

[MrktMkr1986]

I said that there needed to be food in there. Do you know how long it takes to starve to death?

Weeks.

 

[skip0110]

With friends will just make things more dangerous. I've seen what happens.

A padded room sounds good.

Friends (or a "sitter") is very important if you are serious about having a good time safely. What harm you can do with your mind is much greater than what you can do physically. Having someone who can help you understand an experience cannot be stressed enough.

A padded room seems a bit weird. I like being way out in the woods, without my car keys, wallet or anything else. Just me and nature.

 

[Danoff]

Weeks.

Yup, sometimes more than a month.

So if our crackhead has some food in the room to last him a few days or so. He'll eventually come down and go get some food... head back home and shoot up again. Presumably, though, he must have a job - so he must come down periodically anyway.

So why mention him starving to death?

 

[MrktMkr1986]

Yup, sometimes more than a month.

Agreed.

So if our crackhead has some food in the room to last him a few days or so. He'll eventually come down and go get some food... head back home and shoot up again.

He'll still be high while out on the street. You make it sound as though as soon as he leaves his house, he'll magically be sober. Doesn't work that way in real life. He'll be high while he's riding his bicycle, driving his car, taking the train etc. However, suppose he's disturbed while still high. What if he's sees someone like me, the image gets distorted, he panics, then kills me/you. Would you really take that chance all in the name of licentiousness -- err -- freedom?

Presumably, though, he must have a job - so he must come down periodically anyway.

Not necessarily. If drugs are legalized, people won't only take cigarette breaks anymore. They'll be taking pot breaks, crack breaks, shroom breaks etc.

So why mention him starving to death?

Most crackheads that I know of would rather do drugs than eat.

Friends (or a "sitter") is very important if you are serious about having a good time safely.

It depends on the person/people. Some friends are just plain stupid and will "dare" each other to do stupid things -- I've seen it happen.

What harm you can do with your mind is much greater than what you can do physically.

True.

Having someone who can help you understand an experience cannot be stressed enough.

Not everyone is like that, though. Why take that chance?

A padded room seems a bit weird. I like being way out in the woods, without my car keys, wallet or anything else. Just me and nature.

Not everyone is as intelligent as you are. I know of some people who would get lost walking around in circles while sober, let alone high on whatever industrial-strength synthetic aerosol they can get their hands on.

 

[PS]

What are you saying here?

I think I started rambling. Oh! It was about what people see when they're on shrooms. Luckily, schrooms are none-addictive, almost noone ever over-doses, and your body quckly becomes resilliant to them, and people who use them say you should only do it 2-3 times a year for maximum effectiveness, because your body will just be like "oh just a shroom, get rid of it".

 

[Danoff]

He'll still be high while out on the street. You make it sound as though as soon as he leaves his house, he'll magically be sober. Doesn't work that way in real life. He'll be high while he's riding his bicycle, driving his car, taking the train etc. However, suppose he's disturbed while still high. What if he's sees someone like me, the image gets distorted, he panics, then kills me/you. Would you really take that chance all in the name of licentiousness -- err -- freedom?

Some people may go out in public while under the influence. If that happens and they cause trouble they'll go to jail for breaking laws - kinda like drinking.

Not necessarily. If drugs are legalized, people won't only take cigarette breaks anymore. They'll be taking pot breaks, crack breaks, shroom breaks etc.

I see, like they take beer breaks now. I think I need a break.

 

[Flame-returns]

Magic Mushrooms are NOT illegal in the UK and are sold in most shops in Camden Lock (arguably the most interesting place in London.) However it is illegal to dry them (strongify them, strongify now thats a good word) and cuting them is advised against (semi-strongify them.)

I'm all for legalification (now that can't be a real word) of pot as it has been proven to be non-harmful and non-addictive, and as for the Mushrooms I say we keep doing what we do now.

 

[MrktMkr1986]

Some people may go out in public while under the influence. If that happens and they cause trouble they'll go to jail for breaking laws - kinda like drinking.

My point is, is it really worth taking that kind of chance?

I see, like they take beer breaks now. I think I need a break.

Don't be naive. People leave work to go out to lunch all the time -- and then come back to work.

 

[Danoff]

My point is, is it really worth taking that kind of chance?

That's not up to you or me to decide.

Don't be naive. People leave work to go out to lunch all the time -- and then come back to work.

If that becomes a problem they get fired.

 

[MrktMkr1986]

That's not up to you or me to decide.

Who should decide then?

If that becomes a problem they get fired.

I've seen people get away with it because they are "indispensable to the company" or they've had "xx years here", etc... They don't always get fired. Again, why take that chance?

That's not up to you or me to decide.

Who should decide then?

 

[Danoff]

I've seen people get away with it because they are "indispensable to the company" or they've had "xx years here", etc... They don't always get fired. Again, why take that chance?

You're not taking that chance, the company is.

Who should decide then?

Logic decides for us. Reasoning decides. Man should be as free as possible, but not be allowed to infringe the rights of others. Some dude getting high doesn't infringe any of your rights... so he should be free to do it. It's not until he infringes your rights that he should be delt with by force.

 

[Young_Warrior]

Magic Mushrooms are NOT illegal in the UK and are sold in most shops in Camden Lock (arguably the most interesting place in London.) However it is illegal to dry them (strongify them, strongify now thats a good word) and cuting them is advised against (semi-strongify them.)

I'm all for legalification (now that can't be a real word) of pot as it has been proven to be non-harmful and non-addictive, and as for the Mushrooms I say we keep doing what we do now.

Magic mushrooms are now illegal and have been for about two months as the shop in which I got my zip lock bags from used to sell them.

MKRT I stopped selling the stuff because It came to the point that it was becoming too risky and too much of a hassle for the profits involved as everyone seemed to be doing it.

 

[Flame-returns]

Magic mushrooms are now illegal and have been for about two months as the shop in which I got my zip lock bags from used to sell them.

MKRT I stopped selling the stuff because It came to the point that it was becoming too risky and too much of a hassle for the profits involved as everyone seemed to be doing it.

You sure about that? Last time I went to Camden Lock (just over a month ago) some shops were still selling them, I must go down there again and see.

 

[Young_Warrior]

You sure about that? Last time I went to Camden Lock (just over a month ago) some shops were still selling them, I must go down there again and see.

Im sure some stalls will still sell them discretly has many will probably still have stock.

 

[Flame-returns]

Friends (or a "sitter") I like being way out in the woods, without my car keys, wallet or anything else. Just me and nature.

Oh so you're a nudist then

 

[Young_Warrior]

Are you guys serious in the fact thay you guys take this hard drugs and then get a friend to look after you to make sure you dont jump out of windows etc. I dont see the point. Its like how most people in england say a good night out for them is to get boasted out their face and quite frankly that doesnt appeal to me. I drink till im tipsy and start laughing at stupid stuff and then I stop as so that I can still keep myself under control.

 

[Flame-returns]

Most people in England are over 40.

 

[skip0110]

Are you guys serious in the fact thay you guys take this hard drugs and then get a friend to look after you to make sure you dont jump out of windows etc. I dont see the point.

I find it to be mind expanding.

Although I've toned it down significantly after a near-death experience a year and 4 months ago.

Oh so you're a nudist then

Sure, chief. Whatever.

 

[Young_Warrior]

What was this near death experience you were talking about and what drugs do you take and why do you take them?

 

[skip0110]

What was this near death experience you were talking about

I think that discussion would be better suited to a PM, if you really are that interested.

and what drugs do you take and why do you take them?

This is a little vauge...like anyone else, I do things that I enjoy. No need to discuss specific drugs on a family-friendly site. 👍

 

[PS]

What was this near death experience you were talking about and what drugs do you take and why do you take them?

 

[luftrofl]

Drugs should stay illegal.

You wanna try drugs? Fine, I won't rat you out.

But drugs should remain illegal, with harsher punishments. If they are made legal, then some idiot will get his/her hands on some drugs, go do something stupid, and cause harm to themselves and/or others.

I'm sure there are many, many people who have done drugs and have had no harm come of it.

Look at alcohol, it's legal, and look how many people die as a result of drunk driving?

In a perfect society, with perfect people, drugs for recreational use would be splendid.

But it's not.

 

[Danoff]

boing.

 

[Dave A]

But drugs should remain illegal, with harsher punishments. If they are made legal, then some idiot will get his/her hands on some drugs, go do something stupid, and cause harm to themselves and/or others.

Isn't that whats happening now.

I'm sure there are many, many people who have done drugs and have had no harm come of it.

Yep, and theres many that have. It largly depends on dosage and what type of drug your taking.

Look at alcohol, it's legal, and look how many people die as a result of drunk driving?

Not as many as die of cancer, heart attacks or non-drunk driving related crashes.

 

[Keef]

I think drugs like heroine and cocaine are illegal because they turn those who take them into ugly monstrosities really quick. Alcohol is still legal because you need it to make these druggies look pretty again.