Drum & Bass thread.Music

[PeterJB]

Drum & Bass has absolutely no artistic merit, I'll admit it's more tolerable than Dubstep, but at the end of the day does it make you feel anything other than Tinnitus?

 

[TyrrellRacing]

Can't say I'm a big fan of that Tesla. Much prefer Blue Eyez, Snarled, Gritty and Exothermic Reaction.

I don't really know what you would call it but I absoloutley love most things by Skream, Coki, Loefah, Horsepower, Benga..basically anything on the Tempa label. I suppose it is more dubstep than DnB but I just refer to it all as 'UK Bass'. I know it's a bit Hipster but I absolutely can't stand anything by the likes of Skrillex or any other cheap WUBWUWB crap (See Digmacs post and a few others in this thread).

I'm not really bothered how hard it was to make. As long as it sounds good then that's all that matters.

 

[Tesla]

Can't say I'm a big fan of that Tesla. Much prefer Blue Eyez, Snarled, Gritty and Exothermic Reaction.

I don't really know what you would call it but I absoloutley love most things by Skream, Coki, Loefah, Horsepower, Benga..basically anything on the Tempa label. I suppose it is more dubstep than DnB but I just refer to it all as 'UK Bass'. I know it's a bit Hipster but I absolutely can't stand anything by the likes of Skrillex or any other cheap WUBWUWB crap (See Digmacs post and a few others in this thread).

I'm not really bothered how hard it was to make. As long as it sounds good then that's all that matters.

Ah, I prefer them as well, I was just giving a tune that would suit his tastes Good to see another fan of the deeper stuff on here 👍

 

[Digmac]

I think something is messed up then Look up Skream - Heavy Hitter.

Look up noisia - Machine gun 16bit remix

Tesla look up noisia machine gun 16bit remix, having trouble with gtplanet app on iPod touch... Sorry

 

[Tesla]

It's the wipeout tune Original was better IMO.

 

[JohneyPixel]

are we talking stuff like this?


[Youtube]r2C-cdySGHk[/Youtube]
[Youtube]2q-5k8usnfI[/Youtube]
[Youtube]ggeu5vhbueo[/Youtube]
[Youtube]7AnyCPvYg9s[/Youtube]


i love good bit of drum and bass, but can't stand Netsky, the UKF stuff and likes..

 

[Tesla]

I don't think the OP was talking about the darker stuff.

 

[ETID]

Dubstep is tricky for me too. I can't stand the high pitch electronic drops that hurt your ears but I do like a slow relaxing beat with quiet basslines, and a few remixes too.

A relaxed Dubstep song.



HE1RO - I agree, drum and bass creates a lot of adrenaline whilst racing hence why it is in a lot of games like the original Wipeout games, the Motorstorm games and a few in GT5.

JohneyPixel - I see you like the jungle type side of drum & bass. Have a listen to UK Apache & Shy FX - Original Nuttah. I'm not sure if you'll like it as it was made in London and is a mental track! Very big when it came out!

Negrumir - A reason why I love drum and bass is because it was in a lot of classic PS1 and PS2 games as it was quite big around that time. Now it has grown even more and is on a lot of music channels ect.

Everyone - I put the title as that to create more banter and get people attention.

 

[JohneyPixel]

Dubstep is tricky for me too. I can't stand the high pitch electronic drops that hurt your ears but I do like a slow relaxing beat with quiet basslines, and a few remixes too.

A relaxed Dubstep song.



HE1RO - I agree, drum and bass creates a lot of adrenaline whilst racing hence why it is in a lot of games like the original Wipeout games, the Motorstorm games and a few in GT5.

JohneyPixel - I see you like the jungle type side of drum & bass. Have a listen to UK Apache & Shy FX - Original Nuttah. I'm not sure if you'll like it as it was made in London and is a mental track! Very big when it came out!

Negrumir - A reason why I love drum and bass is because it was in a lot of classic PS1 and PS2 games as it was quite big around that time. Now it has grown even more and is on a lot of music channels ect.

Everyone - I put the title as that to create more banter and get people attention.

sorry to be an ass but essentialy dubstep is all around the same tempo

i know that tune btw, not feeling it as much as i used to though prefer T-Power's breakbeat refix


edit:good choice, mala is a don

 

[ETID]

Yes, it is the same tempo, but songs like the one above don't have stupid electronic drops. Instead it just has a relaxed bassline and some quality vocals.

Back to D&B, this isn't a dubstep thread!

 

[Wiegert]

[Youtube]ggeu5vhbueo[/Youtube]
i love good bit of drum and bass, but can't stand Netsky, the UKF stuff and likes..

I like Photek, and that song in particular.


Okay, let me just say that I disagree with the thread title entirely, but I'm definitely not opposed to Drum & Bass. In fact, there are many DnB tracks that I listen to on a regular basis, from the likes of Future Prophecies, Photek, Amon Tobin's earlier DnB works, etc. It's just that I'm not a fan of most new releases, or any of the harder stuff that I've heard over the years.


That being said, I've started listening to more Liquid DnB recently (older stuff from the late 90s).

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

D&B is made with instruments.

If you look at the history of D&B it originated from Jamaican music, a type of music called 'dub' and then got big in London. The original D&B tracks sound very tinny and like a drum kit type sound to them.

That's NOT how DnB came to life. Drum and Bass was actually slower than it is today, and was derived from Rave music in the early 90's. What happened was that rave music at higher speeds were being produced, and created a new tip of a branch in Dance music. For example, this is a Pre-DnB classic:


Then music also continued to become faster, giving us tracks like this classic.


Then, the pre-DnB scene was influenced by the Jamaican Ragga msuic at the time, giving the new genre a name. This was now called "Jungle music". Here is an example of Jungle:


After many years, computers became more advanced and there were more synthesizers and Virtual instruments. This introduced new sounds to the genre, compared to the classic bass sound you hear in older Jungle tracks.

Here is a track from the late 90's, early 2000's:



With the evolution of the computer programs, VSTs, Effects and Digital Audio Workstations, Jungle music started to evolve into the DnB as we know today.



Anyways, back to the original topic, yes, Drum and Bass is one of the best genres out there, however, I also do listen to alot of metal. Here's some of my favourite DnB Albums (My DnB library is over 30GB):

So Far - Alex Reece
Prism EP - Phetsta
Nightlife 5 - Andy C - RAM Records
High Technology - DaVip and Encode - Breed 12 Inches
Surface EP - Various Artists - Titan Records
The Flavours EP 1 & 2 - Various Artists
Sub Focus - Sub Focus
Kryptonite/Escape from Planet Monday - Dj Fresh
Netsky - Netsky
Light Speed - John B
Dj Hype Presents the Ganja Kru - Dj Hype & Ganja Kru

Right, try listening to music made with real instruments, not some electronically edited POS. I can't stand DNB and yet I have to put up with it as I work on the radio, it's just ghastly.

/Rant

You obviously have no idea how hard it is and how much talent you need to make Drum and Bass. I, myself produce electronic music, and its not easy.
The image below is just the composition of a track by DaVip, you dont want to see the number of effects and virtual instruments in this.

And there is NO damn way Dubstep is better than Dnb. In fact, Dubstep bows down to DnB, as it is a branch of DnB.

 

[TyrrellRacing]

A D&B thread isn't a D&B thread without an argument about its roots or whether it's better than dubstep.

Seriously though, there is hardly a huge difference between the two so why like one and not the other ? I can understand if you don't like brostep but why hate good dubstep and love D&B ?

Listening to this at the moment.



What happened Nero ?

 

[Tom]

You obviously have no idea how hard it is and how much talent you need to make Drum and Bass. I, myself produce electronic music, and its not easy.
The image below is just the composition of a track by DaVip, you dont want to see the number of effects and virtual instruments in this.

Yes, I do. I produce music with my band, I write the songs, record them and mix them. I'm aware it's difficult to mix tracks, but if you're going to mix them, at least make them sound good.

 

[NissanSkylineN1]

Yes, I do. I produce music with my band, I write the songs, record them and mix them. I'm aware it's difficult to mix tracks, but if you're going to mix them, at least make them sound good.

They do sound good. You obviously have not listened to enough Drum and Bass to draw to a conclusion.

 

[Tom]

They do sound good. You obviously have not listened to enough Drum and Bass to draw to a conclusion.

No, I just listen to Iron Maiden.

 

[Lizard]

No, I just listen to Iron Maiden.

Rule number 1 never admit defeat.



Rule number 2 (this is for the OP) Never name a thread such and such is better than other music just name it the drum and base thread.

Rule number 3. Whether music is good depends on your taste. I personaly hate modern pop but its called pop for a reason. Its popular. There will never be a definate answer.

 

[Nessy]

To the OP, No it's not!!... but it's not bad in my opinion.

My other half used to be into it quite heavily though, so here's a few (old skool) tunes she suggested:

JO - R -Type
http://youtu.be/h0wm3s8P4z0

Bodysnatch - Just 4 U London (original version)
http://youtu.be/kpHJaSQARIU

Rufige Cru - Terminator
http://youtu.be/BQFXneSROf8

Alex Reece - Pulp Fiction (original)
http://youtu.be/ZNO7-OYLI9U

Neuromancer - Pennywise
http://youtu.be/B6blaB2qMZk

Dj Ron & E.Q.P. - Crackman The Return
http://youtu.be/DbN9onqXwac

Cloud Nine - Return Of The Donut (original)
http://youtu.be/C8WB0sc4tRc

In all fairness, she did say that these tunes ^ may well not be classed as D'n'B, but Hardcore instead.. which is (kind-of) a precursor, and with that train of thought.. i guess i'll add 1 myself,

The Ragga Twins - Spliffhead
http://youtu.be/_LNOMxqJUn0

 

[Bigbazz]

I don't mind drum and bass but I wouldnt listen to it on my own time. What I don't get is

1. Why is it called drum and bass? Bass guitar or the violin double bass type is not commonly used in it, bass drum sure, but that can be covered with just drums.

2. Same drumbeat, its like the whole genre is based around an actual drumbeat, same rhythm, which is why it can be very samish with only very slight variences on the exact same rhythm.


I do think that Prodigy and Pendulum (the only acts I know/like that could be put under this genre) are really talented musicians and write really interesting music, but I couldn't go so far as to name any less well known acts. My best mate often listens to drum and bass online radio stations while hes on skype with me, and some of it is just mind numbingly ****e and samish.

Definitely not better than all the other music, to my ears.

 

[ETID]

NissanSkylineN1 - Well said mate, I can see your a big D&B head.

Tom - I don't think your wanted in this thread if you like Iron Maiden.

Haitch40 - As I previously said the thread was named that for a reason, to gain attention. I don't need you to dish out rules to people.

Bigazz - Fair point mate.

If you listen to the older D&B tracks you can hear a more definitive 'bass drum' but as computer programs have evolved and became better the bass in the new D&B tracks are much lengthier and have loads of different pitches as you can put them on a piano roll ect.

The drum beats are more or less the same and consist of different snares, hi hats, kicks ect at different tempos and rythms.

 

[JohneyPixel]

And there is NO damn way Dubstep is better than Dnb. In fact, Dubstep bows down to DnB, as it is a branch of DnB.

I think it's really impossible to compare two genres of music,especially as versatile as dnb and dubstep are. I listen to and produce dubstep more than anything else, but i can't say it's a better genre than dnb. I'll take loads of dnb tracks over some of the stuff that is called dubstep nowadays.

Anyway, that ^^^^ is a false statement. If anything dubstep isn't really a branch of anything, i think it's more of a mixture of influences such as UKG, the dark jungle stuff, breakbeats, reggae, hip-hop...
But certainly it isn't a branch of dnb.

As for the name drum and bass, i assume that comes from the early jungle days, where the leading elements were heavily processed and chopped drum breaks and heavy basslines... Yeah.

 

[JohneyPixel]

I don't mind drum and bass but I wouldnt listen to it on my own time. What I don't get is

1. Why is it called drum and bass? Bass guitar or the violin double bass type is not commonly used in it, bass drum sure, but that can be covered with just drums.

2. Same drumbeat, its like the whole genre is based around an actual drumbeat, same rhythm, which is why it can be very samish with only very slight variences on the exact same rhythm.


I do think that Prodigy and Pendulum (the only acts I know/like that could be put under this genre) are really talented musicians and write really interesting music, but I couldn't go so far as to name any less well known acts. My best mate often listens to drum and bass online radio stations while hes on skype with me, and some of it is just mind numbingly ****e and samish.

Definitely not better than all the other music, to my ears.

Sorry for double post, too lazy to edit on a phone.

From your post i assume you haven't really heard much of the genre, maybe the most 'mainstream' acts which could be classed as dnb ( i wouldn't call Prodigy dnb but well)

Look in my previous post for the name thing.
The same-ishness you're talking about comes from kind of downfall of the genre dare i say. As the music became more and more popular, lot of people started jumping in and creating a certain set of rules and formulas and it basically got to the point where they don't make original music but instead recycle and imitate the old stuff
for their music is recognized as dnb and gets popular. People like putting stuff in their tiny boxes, because they are afraid of things they don't know and they're more,comfortable with a stereotype than in exploring in new stuff. Ultimately this led to the point where the music fits perfectly in the box but it's boring and dull.

There are people pushing the quality stuff still though, look up Exit Records, Autonomic and Critical music fpr example

 

[HE1RO]

NissanSkylineN1 is correct 👍

ahhh Frooty Loops, how i remember being 14 and thinking i was awesome because i could create a modulated bass, even though it sounded like a woopy cushion. FL studio is just like any other instrument, and there are some things that are impossible to do without it or other programs like it.





Some new stuff, but i think is good stuff, especially the second one.

 

[Pupik]

What's with all the hate, people? If you don't have anything to say, just ignore the thread.

Do you leave a dump on every thread because you feel better about yourself, or are you looking to raise you post count? Because neither action is desired at GTPlanet.

No, I just listen to Iron Maiden.

Really? This honestly makes you incapable of discussing anything in the Music forum, except the Iron Maiden thread. Your opinion counts for less than nothing, since you're using your ignorance as an excuse to bother other members.

Don't waste any time telling me you're trolling, either. Because a worthless post is still a worthless post.

 

[Lizard]

^ The hate came from the original thread title of drum and bass is better than anything.

But now its fine and I don't see the problem.

 

[Pupik]

Let it go already, then. That's why I stepped in now, and cleaned up the debris. Most of the posts didn't even say why they didn't like it, or support any argument in return.

Sorry to be the meanie mod in all this, but we can't allow every thread to get derailed because of invalid nonsense.

 

[HE1RO]

It all comes down to how differently people act over the internet... they automatically know everything and can bench press 250 pounds over their body weight. I didn't think there was anything wrong with the original title; what's childish is making the OP feel like he had to change the title.

OH LOOKIE, MORE DnB lol






Not for the feint of ears. ^^^

 

[JohneyPixel]

I didn't think there was anything wrong with the original title; what's childish is making the OP feel like he had to change the title.

I disagree

 

[Ellis]

I disagree

I disagree with you politely

 

[Lizard]

. I didn't think there was anything wrong with the original title; what's childish is making the OP feel like he had to change the title.

I disagree.
Anyway back to the music.
http://www.youtube.com/user/drumandbasstshirt?annotation_id=annotation_970035&feature=iv
Forgot how to embed its 1am sorry.