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Ebola: I Guess We Are All Going To Die
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It seems that the experimental Ebola "medicine" has been approved by the
public/national health and the FDA has lifted it's restriction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMapp
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/guinea/qa-experimental-treatments.html
public/national health and the FDA has lifted it's restriction.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZMapp
http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/outbreaks/guinea/qa-experimental-treatments.html
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Yes, a so-called "medicine"
What does it actually do? It's not a vaccine, according to that link, so does it just enhance the benefits of supportive care?
Presumably it's being tested under the IND provision named in that notice, how long would it take for approval/licensing? That stuff's worth some real big money...
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I'm not worried with day any age with electronics we can contain it,
Until then I will be living in Alaska if it does spread,
Survival plan, get a Chevy Silverado get a Log cabin with internet and cable in the woods and have no one find me.
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Comcast has the most employees so statistically they're the most likely cable company to survive the outbreak. You really wanna be in that situation?
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I'm not worried with day any age with electronics we can contain it,
Until then I will be living in Alaska if it does spread,
Survival plan, get a Chevy Silverado get a Log cabin with internet and cable in the woods and have no one find me.
I have a similar plan that involves the Alaska archi...whatever islands, most of which are uninhabited.
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Takes a special kind of moron to do this.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/17/world/africa/ebola-liberia-attack/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/17/world/africa/ebola-liberia-attack/index.html
Unfortunately the situation is there is not much trust between the people of liberia and the paramedics, every report coming out of the area reflects this. Who knows, maybe they thought it was some sort of conspiracy and that the paramedics weren't trying to help them at all or even do the opposite.
Still though the attack definitely went too far, they were looting blood stained blankets which have been described as a very high risk of carrying the disease, and a senior police officer over there according to the bbc said it was the stupidest thing he'd ever seen.
Still though the attack definitely went too far, they were looting blood stained blankets which have been described as a very high risk of carrying the disease, and a senior police officer over there according to the bbc said it was the stupidest thing he'd ever seen.
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I honestly don't understand why some people choose to do these things. There is simply no logical explanation for taking an infected item from a clinic. Absolutely NONE.
But in any case, it doesn't look like Ebola will spread to the USA (especially considering that the majority of the population is sane) so I think I'm fine here in California.
But in any case, it doesn't look like Ebola will spread to the USA (especially considering that the majority of the population is sane) so I think I'm fine here in California.
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Actually there is, I'm afraid. An uneducated, superstitious person who either never heard of the germ theory of disease or disbelieves it would do something like that. Which pretty much sums up the situation, I think.
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There is no logical explanation correct, however that assumes the person taking it is logical, some of the population in the effected countries are very suspicious over the medical staff and their actions, hence to them taking it may have been justifiable if they did not believe the story they were being given was true.
However I would agree with you about the situation in 1st world countries, medical services will be able to detect and quarantine more effectively, also the population generally will have a better understanding on how and why prevention techniques are important (and thus actually follow them.)
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The local medicine man said that the cure is found in boiling chicken blood, giraffe testicles and the poo of a rhino.
Duh.
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Perhaps they had the bizarre idea they could inoculate themselves? In theory they could have processed the blood of the survivors into a serum or vaccine, an idea under study in the Ebola medical community.
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If Plague Inc. has taught me something is: if you start to kill people we will find the cure faster.
I believe God (this is for another thread) is playing Plague Inc. and he screwed up so we're just fine. Note to God: next time infect everyone before killing.
In all seriousness, though this is getting out of control in Africa, mainly because life conditions aren't nowhere near as good as ours. Third World Countries are more vunerable because everything is so precarius. I'm not that worried if it will eventually reach Europe in great numbers because transmisson is kinda hard (since it's body liquids in contact), I'm more worried about not having a cure for those Africans and wiping out half-countrys (I'm exaggerating) and the sense hopelessness is worring me.
I believe God (this is for another thread) is playing Plague Inc. and he screwed up so we're just fine. Note to God: next time infect everyone before killing.
In all seriousness, though this is getting out of control in Africa, mainly because life conditions aren't nowhere near as good as ours. Third World Countries are more vunerable because everything is so precarius. I'm not that worried if it will eventually reach Europe in great numbers because transmisson is kinda hard (since it's body liquids in contact), I'm more worried about not having a cure for those Africans and wiping out half-countrys (I'm exaggerating) and the sense hopelessness is worring me.
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Here's the thing, at the point where the epidemic becomes so serious that it's a genuine world threat... shouldn't the 1st World Governments use military humanitarian action to force segregation (if not treatment)?
That seems to me to be a better use of our armies than some of the things we've been up to.
It seems that surviving the virus partly depends on having a good state of health before infection; as you point out life conditions in Africa are nowhere near as good as ours. Additionally, big-pharm is saying that even if any of the 'vaccines' show an at-least-reasonable efficacy then it could take months to bio-engineer the required quantities.
Let's say that the closest date for large-scale vaccine shipment is 50 days away. That's a long long long time :\
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The segregation is a two-sided knife. While humanitarian foreces create that so-called segregation and contain the epidemic it will cause a very serious moral issue, because we'll basically leave these human beings to their own devices (even though we can source them food, water and eventually medicines) and it'll likely cause not only riots inside "the walls" but also out because of leaving a piece of humanity behind. The moral issue will be just too big. Yet I agree the army use is a bit more useful than nowadays.
As I said the virus isn't that contagious (it still is highly) because the body fluids have to come in contact so, even if the medicine is shipped in two months, the numbers of cases won't be enough to strike Europe, even if it spreads through Africa
As I said the virus isn't that contagious (it still is highly) because the body fluids have to come in contact so, even if the medicine is shipped in two months, the numbers of cases won't be enough to strike Europe, even if it spreads through Africa
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Sadly Dr Stella Ameyo Adadevo, the first to order an ebola test on a Nigerian patient in July, has herself died of the disease.
Meanwhile Liberian troops are imposing strict movement curfews. It's a little too late, imo, hopefully other countries will crack down on public movement much more quickly.
Meanwhile Liberian troops are imposing strict movement curfews. It's a little too late, imo, hopefully other countries will crack down on public movement much more quickly.
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Here may be a test case for the future, a slum of 50,000 in Monrovia, placed under quarantine.
http://online.wsj.com/articles/libe...w-quarantine-of-slum-to-curb-ebola-1408503719
http://online.wsj.com/articles/libe...w-quarantine-of-slum-to-curb-ebola-1408503719
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Kent Brantly, the doctor evacuated to the US and given ZMapp, has made a full recovery.
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I saw it on CBS this morning. I'm glad, but also kind of worried about the other patient. The other patient's husband said that "she calls me every day, telling me she's getting better bit by bit" (or something along those lines) so maybe I'm just a bit paranoid.
Nancy Writebol as well.
